Q3. Members of God's Household
#1
Posted 06 May 2003 - 12:18 AM
#2
Posted 10 May 2003 - 01:52 PM
#3
Posted 13 May 2003 - 11:24 AM
I have learned to love my brothers and sisters and accept them as they are. At times it is not easy and my past hurts sometimes gets in the road of trusting them. However there is one person I can trust and that is the Lord. If I trust the Lord to see me through then I can continue to love in spite of the hurt. As I build my relationship with the Lord my relationship with others begins to change.
I thank the Lord for His love.
#4
Posted 13 May 2003 - 01:33 PM
#5
Posted 13 May 2003 - 01:59 PM
#6
Posted 13 May 2003 - 03:35 PM
#7
Posted 13 May 2003 - 05:49 PM
That the nature of the church is like a large family and the nature of God is as a Father with many children we are those sons and daughters. We are brethen with Jesus.
What does it tell us about the kind of fellowship that is appropriate in the local congregation?
The fellowship should be as a large loving family. Able to get along with one another. While at the same time, to love one another enough to correct and admonish in case of sin and neglect.
What are the implications for those Christians who aren't faithful to gather with the local congregation?
The 'body of Christ' is incomplete.
#8
Posted 13 May 2003 - 08:16 PM
Never be afraid to trust an unknown
future to a known God.
-- Corrie ten Boom
#9
Posted 13 May 2003 - 10:01 PM
Also, in the same way that our families sometimes find themselves in a crisis, God's household sometimes find themselves in a similar situation. It could be that there is a strife between members, or the congregation could be facing a financial crisis or a member is finding it hard to motivate himself participate. Whatever the crisis may be, we should not allow ourselves to be discouraged. We should remind ourselves that we are a congregation brought together by the Lord and allowing ourselves to be discouraged will put the entire congregation in danger of being toppled.
This is what people who aren't faithful in participating will miss most in their congregation. They will find it harder to survive and weather out the crises that come their way without the support and motivation of their congregation behind them because this is what family is all about. Emotional (and sometimes even financial) support and motivation.
#10
Posted 14 May 2003 - 01:13 AM
The local congregation should be on one mind to love the Lord in praise, worship, and service. We should love each other and uphold each other - serving God's will and led by the Holy Spirit - no bickering, judging, back biting. "Spirit of the Living God, fall afresh on me........make me, mold me, fill me, use me" Be of like mind, following the guidance of the Holy Spirit, doing God's will, not our own!
We are all family. One must learn to love each other - understand each other - work as a family to show God's love to the world. If one is a Christian, one is a member of God's family and must be faithful to Him, gathering with other family memebers in the household of God to do his worik!
#11
Posted 14 May 2003 - 12:40 PM
#12
Posted 14 May 2003 - 01:07 PM
#13
Posted 14 May 2003 - 05:33 PM
Pastor Ralph, on May 5 2003, 05:18 PM, said:
The term strangers and aliens is a reference to the Jewish law which has very specific references to people who aren't Jews, but are living among God's chosen people. There was even a sign up at the Temple "God's House" which forbid strangers and aliens past a certain point. Now that we are both members of God's household that tells us that the church nature is to be more like a household. The brotherly/sisterly and household member fellowship is more appropriate in the local congregation. The implication for Christians who aren't faithful to gather with a local congregation is that they do not want to be a part of the household and are thus behaving like the prodigal son in going his own way.
bjcollin@hotmail.com
http://www.rcclub.org/~bjcollin
#14
Posted 14 May 2003 - 06:49 PM
If you are not faithful then that seperates you from the congregation and God.Well,everyone knows how children are."Time Out"! Go stand in a corner!Sometimes we need that "Time Out" to be with God,one on one.You know,that secret place.God loves us,our brothers and sisters love us.We never want to be seperated from the love of God.We need to be faithful.What ever it may be that God wants us to do,always pray and push forward,be willing,and God will give you what ever you need to accomplish what is to be done in Jesus Holy Name.
#15
Posted 15 May 2003 - 04:35 AM
Nature of Church and God?
Fellowship, appropriate in the Congregation?
Faithful to gather w/congregation?
Since the Body is of Christ, then the WHOLE BODY is the Congregation/HOUSEHOLD. Fellowship is the nature of God and the nature of those who are in Christ. Each of us should come together and feed of Him, so that we may feed each other. Our Faithfulness is to the Lord, God Almighty... this comes first, and any work we are called to do in the Body should be done in Faithfulness to Him not man/woman. The word says "cursed is he who puts his trust in man".
We must remember that the Body is not of one congregation within the walls of a building.
Our fellowship is within the Whole Body... with all believers of the body; those within the walls of a place of meeting and outside of the walls of meeting. So when we gather at home, or a park, or any other place of meeting... we are still in Fellowship with the Congregation/Body/Household.
If you are of Christ, in Christ you are of the Body, of the Household... you are my brother, my sister... a part of my Household. We are adopted in Him. May God be with you always... Sunshine.
#16
Posted 15 May 2003 - 11:23 PM
#17
Posted 16 May 2003 - 03:08 AM
Since God's nature is love and since God loved the world so much that he sent his son to provide a way through Christ's death to unite all people, we are all, whether formerly aliens or not, wanted by God to be in God's family.
Since God treats all people as equals and invites everyone to join the family, everyone 'belongs' and has as much right as anyone else to worship God. Therefore, we are tolerant, respectful, caring and loving towards all members of our local congregation.
Just as 'family reunions' or 'relly bashes' are bonding times, so a christian who doesn't fellowship with the local congregation is missing out on the giving and receiving of love. I suppose it also means that person is not fulfilling his or her responsibilities that go along with the privileges of membership in God's family.
#18
Posted 16 May 2003 - 10:17 AM
#19
Posted 16 May 2003 - 11:50 PM
(1) The household of God is made up of the redeemed both Jews and Gentiles. It is spiritual house , a family unit where Christ is head and God is our Father who initualated bringing together this family in Christ.
The nature of it is one of LOVE. It was love of the Father that devised a redemptive plan and love of Christ that carred out it out! All of this was done "before the foundation of the world". What love, what mercy, what grace!
The scripture tell us that they wll know that we are christians by our love. They will therefore know that we are a family by the love we have one for the other.
(2) The fellowship that is approprite in the local congregation is that of LOVE and UNITY. Followship is a spiritual union with Christ. (-Cor 1:9 - God is faith by whom ye were called in fellowship of His son Jesus Christ our Lord.
I-John 1:3 -That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and wiuth his son Jesus Christ.
(3) The implication for those christians who aren't faithful to gather with the local congregation is that they do not care about the family unit and maintaining fellowship. They are shunning family members when they should enhancing and sharing in the House of God.
As Pastor Wilson stated, we can not choose our family members. However, as God deals with us through love, we should display this to all family members. And some family members need us more than others.
Secondly, it is direct disobedience to God,s Word. Heb. 10:24-25 - And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and good works. Not forsaking the assembly of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
The apostles continued daily in the temple praising and blessing God.
#20
Posted 17 May 2003 - 11:43 PM
The Church, as the body of Christ, has members of different races, cultures, gifts and skills. All are precious to God and all are equal in His sight. The less sin there is in our lives the greater God can use us. As we can read ‘In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble. If a man cleanses himself from the latter, [The sin in his life] he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work. (2 Tim 2:20-21) Probably explains why I’m still sweeping the floors!
What does it tell us about the kind of fellowship that is appropriate in the local congregation?
In the same way that God demands fellowship with His body, the Church, we too are obliged to keep fellowship with one another. We should see every individual as an equal, just as God does. We should care passionately about each other, just as God does. Whilst the Church is family oriented we mustn’t forget those who are single and perhaps live alone. The writer of Ecclesiastes wisely says ‘Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their work: If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up! Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone? Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken. (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12) Those three strands are You, Me and God. We should never take it forgranted that everyone we meet at church on Sunday is happy and content with their lot. We need to learn sensitivity to all who are around us and recognize the warning signs when things aren’t going so well for them. We are called to mirror Jesus’ calling . . . in setting the prisoners free and restoring sight to the blind. Within the Church as well as without.
What are the implications for those Christians who aren't faithful to gather with the local congregation?
I recall seeing a row of four trees in a field. Three of them were close enough for their branches to touch and entwine with one another. The fourth tree, although in line with the others was set apart by several feet. Interestingly, the single tree had a definite lean on it towards its’ neighbour. God clearly spoke to me through that illustration in nature. Although the other three trees came under the same wind and storms, they stood upright because they had each other for support. Without support the single tree had taken the full force of the elements on its’ own and as a result the consequences were evident in its’ painful looking twists and bends. There’s a lesson for us all there. So many times I have heard Christians say, “I don’t need to attend church to be a Christian”. Truth is, just as Christ loves the Church and in deed gave His life for her, we to should be prepared to do the same. The writer to the Hebrews warns ‘Let us not give up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but let us encourage one another-and all the more as you see the Day approaching”. (Heb 10:25) Those who neglect fellowshipping with the Church are in danger of becoming weak and discouraged. Perfect vulnerability for the enemy to take advantage of. ‘Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing’. (1 Thessalonians 5:11)
Mike D

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