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Q1. Who Are Seals Directed Against?

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 23 September 2003 - 03:57 AM

Q1. (Revelation 6) Who initiates this great storm of destruction represented by the Seven Seals? Against whom is it directed? Is it just?
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Post icon  Posted 04 October 2003 - 03:36 PM

(Revelation 6) Who initiates this great storm of destruction represented by the Seven Seals? Against whom is it directed? Is it just?'
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'And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals.........'

It is the Lamb, Himself that initiates this, by the opening, [breaking] of the first seal.

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'And the Kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens, and the rocks of the mountains'

It comes upon the whole earth, and its inhabitants.
'The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance' [2Peter. 3:9]
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Is it just? Yes; God through His love, gave His only begotten Son, that ALL that would believe, would be saved.
We have been given every chance to chose life, through the Son...

God is always just; [it rains on the just and the unjust]

God through His prophets, preachers and teachers, has warned of this day, that is coming....those that had an ear, heard.

'Even so, come Lord Jesus'
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Post icon  Posted 04 October 2003 - 06:53 PM

[QUOTE][B] I believe that God created man, and He has given man instructions on how He wants man to behave, and what He expects in return. But through ignorance, deception, fear, and lazyness man has chozen to be rebellious and indifferent to God's commands ... therefore my vote as to who "initiated" this 'reward' is us, mankind ourselves. "For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of God," ... "the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ His Son". Love ...Bro. Al
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Posted 04 October 2003 - 09:45 PM

Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living creatures saying with a voice like thunder, "Come and see." And I looked, and behold, a white horse. He who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out conquering and to conquer.
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Post icon  Posted 05 October 2003 - 12:56 PM

The Lamb of God was the only one worthy to open the seven seals. Jesus, the Lamb of God, gave His life to provide us salvation from our sins, and nothing He ever does is "unjust"!!
All people--the kings and the peasants, the rich and the poor, the entire people on earth try to hide from the disaster in caves, etc, wanting the mountains to fall on them rather than face the judgement of the Lord God.
Is it just? God is always just. Nothing He does is ever tainted with injustice. We may not understand what He does, but we can take comfort that He will never strike out in injustice to anyone! He has given us so many opportunities to come to Him and believe in Him. If we refuse to do so, the blame is not on Him. It is on ourselves!
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Posted 05 October 2003 - 02:02 PM

Thousands of years have passed and many more will come
God thought of man before the world, but He so loved the
world that gave His only Son for our salvation.
But are deaf, and have our hards hard full of ourselves.
We bring this upon ourselves and God sends the Lamb
back to earth to reign for ever and ever Amen.
Jesus Aguilar
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Post icon  Posted 05 October 2003 - 06:01 PM

[COLOR=blue] :D The only one worthy to open the seals is the Lamb. He was slain for our sins. Throughout the Bible we have been given instructions as to what God wanted. But we were given free will. No one is forced to choose the light, they can stay in the darkness. Then when there is wailing and gnashing of teeth it has been their choice. God is just. He is holy. Come Lord Jesus. :rolleyes:
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Posted 05 October 2003 - 08:20 PM

Revelation 6) Who initiates this great storm of destruction represented by the Seven Seals? Against whom is it directed? Is it just?'

Who initiates this great storm of destruction represented by the Seven Seals?
I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals
Jesus was the only one worthy to open the seals; therefore it was him who initiates the storm of destruction.

Against whom is it directed?
It is directed towards those people who will not repent. (Rev. 6:15-17)


Is it just?'
Yes, God gives sinners plenty of time to repent in the time of the tribulation; those that do will be have the “Lamb” as their shepherd and those that don’t will suffer destruction.
God Bless
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Posted 05 October 2003 - 09:17 PM

Who initates the great storm?
the Lamb who is Christ who broke open the seal.

Against whom?
Against all mankind

Is it Just?
We all have been called to repent and if we do not than the judgement of God is just,it is always just.

I looked at the scriputre references given and they refer to people hiding from what is to come, the mountains moved by God, I think this is also seen in 1 Kings 19:12 when Elijah went to the mountain to hear the voice of God, it was not in the destructive power of earthquake, fire, strong heavy winds.
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Post icon  Posted 06 October 2003 - 01:59 AM

God is directing human history, even using His enemies to unknowly accomplish His purpose. Christ the Lamb set in motion events which will bring about the end of human history. On the day of God's wrath those that had no fear of God and flaunted their unblief will have to face his wrath. Those that preached the Word Of God will sufffer even lose their lives. It is just because the concern is for God to vindicate His name and his suffering people. Amen!
Rejoice always , pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you........1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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Post icon  Posted 06 October 2003 - 11:00 AM

:o Christ, Himself, set it in motion by breaking the first seal. This will bring about the beginning of the end of human history. This is just as people have been forewarned for thousands of years that there would be just such a day of reckoning and they weren't listening or many believed a loving God would not do such a thing. These people do not understand God's kind of love. Loving is not allowing people to go on sinning for generations with no time of facing their sins. Pray and witness that many will repent and not be included in this final distruction.
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Posted 06 October 2003 - 02:45 PM

As we learned in the first week, Christ sees all...knows all about us better than we do ourselves. He will know when there is noone left seeking His purpose in their lives. He will know when every possable chance has been given and He will know when destruction is all that can be done to cleanse the earth of sin. He will open the seals because He is worthy but it is the hardness of men's hearts that inituates the destruction. It is the love of self rather than love toward God that will cause the destruction.
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Posted 06 October 2003 - 03:03 PM

Jesus was the only one that could intitate the destruction. It was directed at the unbelievers who chose to reject Jesus. It was directed to the unbelievers on the earth during the tribulation. Everyone had been warned what will happen to them that do not believe in God. So yes, it is just.
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Posted 06 October 2003 - 10:38 PM

Q1. (Revelation 6) Who initiates this great storm of destruction represented by the Seven Seals? Against whom is it directed? Is it just?
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The seals represents the beginning of Christ's judgment of unbelievers on the earth during the tribulation period. The purpose is to punish unbelievers for their sins, and rejection of Christ. Christ has the right to judge the earth and it's people, because of His submission to the Cross.
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Posted 06 October 2003 - 10:55 PM

Jesus broke the seal and it is directed towards man. It is just because scripture talks about mankind being called to repent. If we do not repent, we face damnation and total destruction. God's judgement is alwasy just.
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Posted 06 October 2003 - 11:45 PM

The Lamb breaks the seals but the storm of destruction is directed to sinful, selfish man. Man's ambition to conquer, drives him to war, which leads to economic crisis and famine and that leads to plagues, disease, and death. Those who stand for Jesus in the chaos are murdered. It is just for all Christians. Make Jesus Christ King of your life and maintain your testimony and trust Him with our todays and tomorrows.
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Posted 07 October 2003 - 12:05 AM

Christ initiates this great storm

It is directed at the unrighteous


Yes, it is just, for everyone is aware of right and wrong, God's laws is written in everyones hearts, and on everyones mind.
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Post icon  Posted 07 October 2003 - 10:12 PM

:) Jesus, the Lamb initiates this great storm of destruction represented by the Seven Seals.

It is directed to those who dwell on the earth.

Yes, it is just. (Hebews 2:2-3: For if the word spoken through angels proved steadfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just reward, how shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed to us by those who heard Him.) :)
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Posted 08 October 2003 - 12:23 AM

Q1. (Revelation 6) Who initiates this great storm of destruction represented by the Seven Seals?

/I] Initiates: who began it, who started it, who took Action, who was WORTHY to BREAK FORTH SUCH A JUDGMENT?? JESUS

GOD SPOKE IT FROM THE BEGINING
GOD SPOKE THROUGH THE PROPHETS WARNING US
JESUS CONFIRMED WHAT WAS SPOKEN

The Storm of Destruction does not begin until Jesus breaks the Seal... the Storm does not begin until He gives the word... INITIATES with ACTION.

Against whom is it directed? ALL WHO REMAIN UPON THE EARTH

IS HE JUST??? OH YES, PRAISE GOD HE IS JUST.

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Posted 08 October 2003 - 12:26 AM

WHO IS THE STORM DIRECTED TOWARD??.. I JUST REMEMBERED... ALL THOSE WITHOUT HIS SEAL... He proclaims to an Angel to go seal the foreheads of the 144,000.


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