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Q3. The Great White Throne Judgment

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 01 November 2003 - 01:01 AM

Q3. (20:11-12) Why is this awesome scene of judgment so frightening? Why do people seem to resist the idea of a final judgment?
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Post icon  Posted 04 November 2003 - 01:06 PM

Q3. (20:11-12) Why is this awesome scene of judgment so frightening? Why do people seem to resist the idea of a final judgment?

This is frightening because it IS awesome!! The thought of having every event in my life--my actions and thoughts open to all--can not but cause me to draw back! Is anyone so perfect that he/she has not done things that we wish we had not? Of course not! Yes, we know we have been forgiven when we have repented and asked His forgiveness. And, we cannot but fall on our faces in gratitude to Him that He does forgive us! But how our hearts wish we could have been totally pure and never need to be forgiven at all! Yes! That is but our pride taking over! And again, I need to be forgiven! In other words, this horrible judgement of the unrepentant is what I deserve! Only His loving willingness to take my punishment allows me to be acceptable to Him! So, we see this event coming for those who have not repented--and our hearts cringe--especially for those loved ones who reject Him and face His judgement without our Advocate! God help us to reach as many as possible before that awesome Day! :(
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Post icon  Posted 04 November 2003 - 01:12 PM

:huh: It is frightening because it is so final and unchangeable. Everyone is held accountable for things they could have changed if they had only listened. People want to believe a kind and loving God would not punish in this way but the knowledge of this punishment is widely spread, the solution proven and the results predicted.
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Post icon  Posted 04 November 2003 - 01:30 PM

We are basically fear based people

We love control of every thing

We are human beings that only think
on the flesh and cannot foresee the
realm of the spirit. When we lose touch
with the physical and cannot control it
fear sets in.

It comes to mind when one time as a kid
I confessed my sins, what I thought there were
all my sins, and I remember the feeling was exhilarating
only to see it taken away by my next wrong doing

My life turned for the worst and I kept running into
places that today I do not ever want to go back to

It was God that in the night of the second of February
of 1990 saved me and brought me to Him.

It took another six years of learning and living diferently
to come to my Lord and Savior and totally surrender
He cleaned me and gave me new garmets, He has forgive
all my sins and I live my life for Him.

Still lingers in the back of my mind at this moment

DID I FORGET SOMETHING? DID I HARMED SOME ONE
WITHOUT ME KNOWING IT?

If I have I want to confess and come clean again
is by His grace that I am here and yes still today when
the question is raised

How will you be at the final judjment?

Scares me and only hope that The infinite Love of my
dear God and by His compassion I will be forgiven and
then can participate in His eternal Glory.

Let's pray for the Spritual healing in every one
and let's bring as many people to our Lord and Savior
as we can in His name today. Your brother Jesus A.
Jesus Aguilar
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Post icon  Posted 04 November 2003 - 06:47 PM

While it is so easy to generalize, for myself, I confess my sins to the Lord and know that I am forgiven. When it comes to "judgement day" I wonder if there is still that insecurity lingering in the back of my mind that maybe I left something out. Or that though I try hard to walk in a Christian way, I am human and imperfect, and make mistakes, though I know I am loved and created in the image of God. So there is a dichotomy going on in the back of my mind when it gets down to considering final judgement. This study has caused me to spend a lot of time in introspection and prayer and I am so grateful for that.

On a side note, thank you Pastor Ralph for your time and energy. This is such an awesome subject to contemplate and learn from. Our Lord is such a loving Lord, and I learn more and more daily from every persons' posts. Thank you for this opportunity to share and learn.
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Posted 04 November 2003 - 08:24 PM

Frightening - - because we are convicted that we missed the mark somehow.

It makes us think if we have confessed everything, are we really going to make it. Did we forget to confess and what about the sins we don't even know about that we have commted. :unsure: The mercifulness and fairness of God is never in question, but the fear is from within ourselves. Are we sincere, did we confess it all, and then there are those we loved still not saved.

So the question prompts me to get very serious about prayer and sharing - - this great message of a just, loving, gracious, merciful Savior, Jesus.

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Post icon  Posted 05 November 2003 - 01:55 AM

It is frightening because it is true. It is the Word of God and it will happen. I'm struggling with this because there are unbelievers in my family. Its the reason I pray for people who have hurt me. How could anyone want this kind of punishment for anyone. Its the reason I decided I could not support the death penalty because we are sending some people into a Christless eternity. Maybe they choose it but I cannot bear it. There is no joy in me reading this and thinking about my own selfishness and pettiness. I keep thinking of Pauls verse "That which I would do I don't and that which I wouldn't do I do. Oh wretched man that I am who can deliver me from this body of death." And thats just what I am a wretched person. I have Christ. Am I so selfish tht I don't care that others don't. But I do care but the flesh is weak.

Why do people reject the idea of a final judgement? Is it the Santa Clause mentality that we have about God? Is it because the idea of final judgement and a God of love don't jive in our minds? Or is it just a blindness like scales over our eyes. I don't know the answer but some people are in for a terrible terrible beyond description reality when they die.

Here is John Phillips description of it (Exploring Revelation)
"There is a terrible fellowship there....The dead, small and great, stand before God. Dead souls are united to dead bodies in a fellowship of horror and despair. Little men and paltry women whose lives were filled with pettiness, selfishness, and nasty little sins will be there. Those whose lives amounted to nothing will be there, whose very sins were drab and dowdy, mean, spiteful, peevish, groveling, vulgar, common, and cheap. The great will be there,men who sinned with a high hand, with dash, and courage and flair. Men like Alexander and Napoleon, Hitler and Stalin will be present, men who went in for wickednesss on a grand scale with the world for their stage and who died unrepentant at last. Now one and all are arraigned and on their way to be damned: a horrible fellowship congregated together for the first and last time."

Some of it sounds to much like me.

God Bless you all.
Jen
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Posted 05 November 2003 - 01:56 AM

Why is this awesome scene of judgment so frightening?
For being afraid of not doing enough, not hearing the words "well done my child"

Why do people seem to resist the idea of a final judgment?
For the Lord is not in them
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Posted 05 November 2003 - 03:14 PM

Pastor Ralph, on Oct 31 2003, 06:01 PM, said:

Q3. (20:11-12) Why is this awesome scene of judgment so frightening? Why do people seem to resist the idea of a final judgment?

Why is this awesome scene of judgment so frightening? It will be a time to see whose name is in the book of life. Are you saved? Do you believe that Jesus Christ is our Savior, the one who is and was and is to come? Everything will be burned up, gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw. Have we built on the foundation of Jesus Christ the foundation that will endure?

If our name is written in the book; then we have accepted Christ and are a Christian and are not in danger of being cast in the lake of fire.

But we will be judged for our life here on earth and rewarded; Good, bad or indifferent. (1 Cor. 3:5) each of us will receive our own reward according to our labor. Have we shared the gospel with others, have we planted seeds of the good news, or watered it by our actions and words?

(Matt.25:14-25) We will be judged by how we use our talents in this lifetime to win those to Christ. Those who bury their talents will be cast into outer darkness, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


Why do people seem to resist the idea of a final judgment? This is it! Those that did not repent there will be no place for them and those that accepted Jesus and have not shared his love with others to win them over to Him, well, there are no more chances.
God Bless
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Posted 05 November 2003 - 07:18 PM

This is very frightening but awesome. Everyone is to be judged. You stand before God Almighty and there are 2 books that are opened, you do not know which book you are in. Why? Because although you feel and believe that you served God and lived your life as a true Christian and Child of God you wonder if through your lifetime you have altered or failed at something that you should not have. The only way you will truly know is when judgement day comes.
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Post icon  Posted 06 November 2003 - 01:29 PM

It is frightening because we are still human and we even though we have excepted Jesus as our savior know those that have not excepted him. Some of our family have refused to except him and know that he is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. The Son of the true and living God. We do not want judgment we want mercy forever and the human mind does not want to except the fact that this is what will happen and it is forever and ever. No turning back no more chances for us to even repent of things that we have done in our lives. We as Christian need to practice what our brother Paul told us he did. We must die daily, ask forgiveness and pray we know God is just and willing to forgive all who ask. 1Cr 15:31 I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. We still as humans do not want to see those that did not except Jesus during the time given to them to do so end up in hell. We fight the idea of the reading of the books of life because we know it holds all that we have done for all to see. As a Christian there should be no fear for when God forgives he forgets I do not think it will be written there if we have been forgiven of it. Thank you Jesus for taking our sins upon you so we can stand before the final judgment without fear. Fear is not of God and as a Christian we should not let it be entertained in our minds. 2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
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Posted 06 November 2003 - 03:08 PM

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Almighty God and we are to have fear of God and not of man. The judgment is final it is not something we can change or help others to change it is the end of everything and we will be with Jesus forever. We resist the idea of final judgment because we do not want to think of leaving anyone behind and we ourselves do not want to stand before the Almighty God. we think of him in mercy and kindness not as a judge that is hard for our minds us being human to conceive.
God bless,
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Posted 11 November 2003 - 02:21 AM

This scene can be frightening if a person doesn't know what is going on. People may seem to resis the idea of a final judgment because they feel they still have time. <_<
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Posted 12 November 2003 - 03:11 AM

This is so frightening because this will be a terrible time for the unsaved. There is no turning back or trying to make the right decision because this is the final judgement. Everyone has had the opportunity to choose eternal life or eternal death.

We seem to resist the idea of a final judgement because of God's patience and long-suffering. Some might even think there is no final judgement, when we have to give account of all the deeds done in this body.

God is giving all of us a chance because he wants all to be save and not perish. The final judgement is true and real. Where we spend eternity is determine by how we live according to the word of God.
Rejoice always , pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you........1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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Posted 13 November 2003 - 09:59 PM

The great white throne judgment is frightening because a person's every thought, word, and deed will be exposed for all to see. I also believe those in judgment will be shown the times they rejected Christ when they were given a chance to respond to the gospel. That way they can't say 'I never knew' or 'nobody ever told me.'
Another reason it is so frightening is that the punishment will be forever. Those who rejected Christ will burn in a literal lake of fire forever and ever. This is only my opinion but I believe the lake of fire will be a cold fire rather than a hot one. By this I mean they will feel the fire from deep within themselves not just on they outer bodies.
Also another frightening reason is that those cast into the lake of fire will be in their physical bodies which can feel pain as opposed to just being placed there as a spirit alone.
I believe people resist the idea of a final judgment because they want to believe that God is basically good, that He can't possibly punish someone for eternity.
Sadly, there are believers who basically hold to the same belief. They feel that any punishment someone receives for rejecting the gospel is only temporary.
Also many believe the false teaching that it is still possible to accept Christ even after they have been judged and sent to hell or the lake of fire.
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Posted 14 November 2003 - 12:50 PM

This awesome scene of judgemnt is so frightening because it is final. One is either in the Book of Life or one is not. The other books held judgement of those not in the Book of Life and had every deed done to be judged. People seem to resist the idea of a final judgement because we see God as loving and forgiving. We do not fathom that at this point of judgement that these people have had every opportunity to accept Christ, but their hearts have been hardened against Him.
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Posted 14 November 2003 - 07:07 PM

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It is hard to realize how just God is. We don't want to believe that anyone will be lost- it is hard to realize tha someone you love & care for may be lost forever.
We were given freedom to choose our own path- why then would God punish us for our choices after all he allowed us to follow that path.
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Posted 21 November 2003 - 02:59 AM

The awesome scene of judgment is so frightening because the most of us do not understand it.A lot of people are only taught about the "Doom part" ,and what is going to happen if you do not change your way of living.People need to be taught the Love of God,His peace.On the other hand christians should stand out for the good in their life"Let your light shine",the light of Jesus Christ.Focus on Jesus Christ and all the rest will fall into place.
Satans power is not eternal~he will meet his doom!
At judgment,the books is opened. In them are recorded the deeds of "everyone",good or evil.Now,we are not saved by our deeds,but our good deeds shows clear evidence of a persons actual relationship with God."The Book of Life contains the names of those who have put their trust in Jesus Christ to save them,that is our assurance."Our only hope"Amen.
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Posted 21 November 2003 - 05:00 AM

All will know and all will see what we did for HIM ;)
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Posted 22 November 2003 - 11:43 PM

:rolleyes: Many of us, human beings, living as good citizens in our contemporary society
are proud that we never had to face a judge or judgement, for any crime or omission that we have committed. But this judgement before the great throne of God by the Omniscient God, is so frightening because, eventhough we are sure the the Lord has lovingly wiped away all our sins, when we accepted him as our personal Savior,still to be exposed before all the people and being directly judged by the Omnipotent himself. And that is final for me and all my dear and near. However our Lord has sifficiently forewarned us, showed us the provision He made for us to reconcile us, sinners, with Him.
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