Q3. Being 'Conscious of God'
#2
Posted 22 February 2004 - 01:20 AM
I don't believe a Christian can be a complainer. If we look at our Example "Jesus", He did nothing. He could've, but He didn't, and He brought honor to God. Because they knew that because of how He acted, they had crucified an innocent man. If He can submit and endure all that for me....then I can certainly endure willingly anything the world can dish out. I am proud to be called His. And if I was being a jerk I wouldn't want the world to know I was a Christian. It is denying Him and I won't do that. I pray I won't ever do that anyway.
How do I react to unfair treatment at work? First of all, I pray for certain individuals and situations and I pray for myself. I try to remember that ALL things work for the good for those who love God. So, no matter what is going on, I can endure it. I trust my God and I know my life is in His hands. He loves me and will protect me if it gets too bad.
Love y'all,
Patsy in Idaho
#3
Posted 22 February 2004 - 07:10 AM
It is possible for a conscientious Christian to stand with a victim against injustice.
If the injustice is against me and I think I can deliver the boss a more advantageous scenario, I will. Otherwise I remain quiet or get another job.
If the injustice is against another employee and I think it necessary, I'll go in to bat for them, and if necessary take it to a higher level, negotiating a better outcome all around.
#4
Posted 22 February 2004 - 03:03 PM
I think being an employee conscious of God allows us to see injustice and pray over it. We are to be aware of it but not participate in it as Matthew 10:16 tells us to be shrewd as snakes and innocent as doves. I don't think a Christian should be a complainer, however I do think a Chirstian can complain, at times, if after prayer the person feels moved by the Spirit to make a complaint. If an injustice is taking place and a complaint to the party being unjust or to a superior will result in that action being brought to light or discontinued, then I think the complaint is warranted. I have not seen prolonged, unfair treatment where I work for which I am greatly thankful.
#5
Posted 24 February 2004 - 01:58 AM
Being an employee “conscious of God”, makes me stop and think before I act. Others that I work with know that I am a Christian and if I react unfavorably to a situation this would bring dishonor to God. If I see an injustice being done to another, I would first pray about it, then I would talk to the person that’s at fault, and try to help resolve the problem.
Can a conscientious Christian be a complainer?
I don’t believe a conscientious Christian can be a complainer, but I do believe that if they see something happening that is obviously wrong, they can bring it to their employer’s attention, not in a complaining way, but in a “trying to be helpful” way.
Why or why not?
If we bring the problem to the attention of our employer in a “trying to be helpful” way instead of just complaining, it shows others that we truly do love God, and follow his teachings of treating others as we would have them treat us.
How do you usually react to prolonged, unfair treatment at your work?
I have not been treated unfairly at work, but if it happened to me, I would pray about it, then go to the person in charge and talk to them about it. If it couldn’t be resolved I would either find a way to deal with it, or find another job. I have seen this happen to others, and have been asked to help resolve it. I just went to the person in charge and explained what was happening and the problem was eventually resolved.
There is more joy in Jesus in 24 hours than there is in the world in 365 days. I know, I've tried them both.
#7
Posted 25 February 2004 - 12:38 AM
#8
Posted 25 February 2004 - 12:53 AM
I am amazed at all of the other answers and realize I have so much to learn. I have been a Christian for many years, but still need to grow, and with His help I pray I will.
God Bless!
#9
Posted 25 February 2004 - 03:21 AM
I have a tendancy to holler when someone steps on my foot. I must learn to do a much better job of remembering that I am just passing through, and ask God to still my heart, and leave it to Him to be the judge! Praying to God for guidence and leaving myself open so the Holy Spirit can move through me will be my response to injustice at work. If I can only learn...
#10
Posted 25 February 2004 - 02:19 PM
If I knew the situation was not going to change and I had done everything I could to make it better then I found another job. I do not believe that God wants for us to continue to work in an abusive situation.
#11
Posted 25 February 2004 - 02:44 PM
When injustice is done to others, we need to stand by their side--not in complaining, but if possible bringing it to the attention of those in authority in a way to help produce a solution--that will ultimately help the them bring about a better result for all concerned. When it is unjust action against ourselves, we should not complain nor react negatively. We have a tendency to feel abused when others treat us unkindly, but often we are overreacting to something that was not intended to be unkind. It was only thoughtlessness. We need to pray for the perpetrator and ask for guidance from the Lord--as we should in any circumstance.
Only once was I in that situation. Brought before the supervisor, I stated my case calmly and refused to react to the negative, untrue retorts of the accuser.
We must not be "whiners" because that is non-productive, and reflects negatively on our Lord. But, if there is a God-sanctioned way to bring about a better world, such as dcalbreath mentioned, we pray for guidance and speak up.
#12
Posted 25 February 2004 - 06:48 PM
When there is obvious injustice in the workplace, a Christian should take a stand and discuss the matter with the supervisor, but only after much prayer and thought as to how to approach the situation. We need to exhibit a forgiving spirit, but also gently point out that the injustice needs to be worked out; and, if possible, offer a solution.
We should never react in a hostile manner, because that can only lead to more hostility on both sides.
A conscientious Christian should not be a "complainer" in the sense of constantly running down the job situation; but if a time comes when we do need to make our feelings known about any injustice at the workplace, we should not hesitate.
It's been some time since I have been in the workplace, but I would certainly pray about the unfair treatment. If it happened to me, I would ask to discuss it with the one responsible to see exactly why this was happening; and if it should continue, then I would probably look for another job. If it happened to one of my co-workers, I would let them know I was praying for their situation (and ask if they would like for me to pray with them) and offer to do anything that I could that might be of help.
Just keep in mind -- God is well aware of the situation, and He will be pleased with our good example. Who knows? It might even cause someone to realize their need of a loving, personal Saviour in their life!
#13
Posted 26 February 2004 - 12:19 AM
Pastor Ralph, on Feb 20 2004, 05:18 PM, said:
There are two considerations to look at when we consider this question. 1) if the injustice is directed toward us and 2) if the injustice is directed toward others.
In the first place, we are admonished to bear the injustice and commit our cause to God. Romans 12:19 "Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but [rather] give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance [is] mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." If we are to avenge ourselves we hinder God from working in our situation. Instead we are instructed not to resist evil Matthew 5:39 "But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also." and to pray for and forgive those who do us dirt. In so doing we release the hand of God. As others see your comportment under provocation they will soon realize that you are not fighting back, but that they are fighting against God, who is froward toward those who are froward. It's not about winning here, it's about the souls of men. Our submission to God in this is to them an evident token of their perdition and will serve to bring glory to God.
If the injustice is directed toward others it is important that we remain steadfast in righteousness and not be carried away with the mob. There may be consequences for us in standing resolutely for the right which we should be prepared to bear. We can't be running into every conflict and addressing every injustice, but whatever comes within the sphere of our mandate, we cannot turn a blind eye.
The phrasing of the question lends itself to a negative slant, sort of like saying is it OK for a Christian to be a whiner? Obviously not. The habitual complainer is unhappy about a lot more than just his job and the injustices he perceives. Phil. 4:11-13 , 19 tells us that our contentment and source of wellbeing is not what we possess or our circumstances, its Jesus. We should ask God why we are unhappy and repent, allowing HIm to meet our needs. Psalm 42:5 Perhaps we should realize that nothing comes into our lives but that God will use it for the good of those who are the called according to His purpose. Really, we're kind of missionaries at our jobs and need to act the part. We don't have to be door-mats, situations can be addressed with a soft answer and in wisdom which God gives to those who ask.
The question how I personally react to prolonged unfair treatment at work. I am slowly learning to cast my cares upon Him, not to fight back vindicating myself or defending myself. I am learning that whatever is happening to me at this time serves only to benefit and strengthen me even though the trial may be grievious. I am also learning that I'm not the only one. It seems that God has each one of us exactly where He wants us for a reason. We are in the crucible and He is working the image of Jesus in us. As the heat turns up the dross bubbles to the top. I realize that I can't jump ship when the waters get rough, He's there with me and the joy I receive when I get to the other side more than compensates for the grief endured.
#14
Posted 26 February 2004 - 12:56 AM
Complaining does not please God. I have learned that complaining does not help the situation and sometime makes it worse.
Even in the midst of prolonged unfair treatment we have to follow the example of Christ and stand up for what is right. We might have to stand alone but God will work it out for good. Ask yourself, what would Jesus do?
We have to live the life of Christ and in doing so, other will see our good works and follow the example set forth by us. Always be careful how we walk before our unsaved neighbors.
#15
Posted 26 February 2004 - 01:01 AM
We should not look the other way or bury our heads in the sand, but each incident needs to be weighed and prayed before actions. Many times what seems to be an injustice, turns out to be a co workers 'version' of what took place. Get all the facts, seek God, then act. Shouldn't be a "complainer", but should tell the truth, I mean be open and honest. To be a whiney, complainer is not bringing glory to God. Do your job or move on.
Find a job you like and will and can do well. Your work is a testimony. I have prayed about; it I have endured it; I have grown spiritually, God has used situations to cause me to be stronger, more patient; more compassionate.....ultimately I started my own business so I could do things in a Christ like fashion. That was 25 years ago. Thank you, Jesus!!
#16
Posted 26 February 2004 - 04:18 AM
2. I don't think a sincere Christian will want to complain.
3. Because we are so full of gratitude for all God has done for us and is still doing for us.
4. If I was being treated unfairly, I would pray about the situation. I would hope that God would bring about change in me or change in the situation.
#17
Posted 26 February 2004 - 10:28 PM
As a christian, I did not complain. However I did determine the proper manner to start a dialogue to discuss this injustice. I spoke to my boss's boss, to no avail but at least I got some of the truth on the table.
I prayed over this situation and this point God is telling me to stay and work your hardest to prove my boss and others weong concerning their assessment of me. After 17 years working for this company, it is difficult to accept this rating and not feel like a failure as a employee and by extension that I failed God.
Any thoughts on this situation?
#18
Posted 27 February 2004 - 05:21 AM
If we react to injustice at the workplace it should 1) never damage our Christian witness, 2) be an act of genuine love and/or concern, 3) not be self-seeking, and 4) always done with the utmost respect for those in authority.
We should not be "complainers", constanstantly seen as negative to the plans and objectives of the department. if that is the case, we need to look very carefully at our lives, and the current position we serve in. it could be time to move on to another position or place of employment, or could be time for some "house cleaning: of the soul. God wants us to be salt and light, not spoiled milk and dreariness.
I try to speak up in the face of the treatment, but always out of respect. if it does not go anywhere it may again be time to move on to another place of employment. I am cogniscent of my Christian witness and do all I can to protect the integrity of it. yes, sometimes I have gone to seek forgiveness when I have blown it, but that provides another opportunity to show th Christlike life, and the grace and forgiveness of our Lord to those around us...another opportunity to be submissive and obedient to those God has placed over us.
#19
Posted 27 February 2004 - 04:10 PM
#20
Posted 27 February 2004 - 11:58 PM
But I will be the first to admit that it is hard and hurtful when as an employee have to endure and suffer cruel treatment when doing a good job in the workplace. Alot of times it is fear that causes employers to treat employees badly. There's been many times that a project was developed but I seen where it could be improved to greatly help the company and I would submit my suggestions (as we were told to do) but after the submission life in the workplace was very difficult but the funny thing about it was the suggestions were used but the credit went to the one who developed the project. That was fine because I knew that God knew who and where the ideas came from. That was all the credit and recognition that I needed.

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