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Q4. What lesson is God teaching you out of Hagar's experience? Which situation that God is calling you to is most difficult for you to submit to?

What lesson is God teaching you out of Hagar's experience? Which situation that God is calling you to is most difficult for you to submit to?


What lesson is God teaching you out of Hagar's experience?
That God is just and fair loving even those who seem to be the underdogs. And that people are human with shortcomings and that we are in the process of perfection with the help of God.
Even though there is impatience and a tendency to take matters into our own hands concerning the direction of our lives God does work matters out for the good of those who love Him, those who repent and are obedient to His commands.

Which situation that God is calling you to is most difficult for you to submit to?
I think waiting on the call of the vision I have seen. I want it to take place now and it is hard for me to accept the place He still has me in. I want to run ahead of Him becoming anxious in which I have to repent. He in turn is developing patience with in me and that is difficult for a visionary to comprehend.

The lesson God is teaching me out of Hagar's experience is that we all must suffer for the will of God. A situation that God is calling me to that is most difficult for me to submit to is finding time to be alone with Him.

There is a difficult lesson in submission which comes from Hagar’s experience. Hagar was Sarah’s servant. In that role, she was expected to submit to her mistress. But Hagar chose another path when she found she was with child. She was insubordinate and disrespectful which led Sarah to treat her harshly. When Hagar resisted Sarah, she was resisting God. “Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust.” (1Pe 2:18).

When the angel of the Lord spoke with Hagar, he told her to return and submit to Sarah, as God’s purpose for Hagar, Sarah and Abraham was not yet finished.

When I’m in a role where I need to submit, that is a choice God is asking me to willingly make. God has a plan for me which he reveals as each day evolves. He’s led me to where I am for a reason, which I may or may not understand—or think I understand.

I can relate this to the frustrations I have at my job. I remind myself that God put me here for his divine purpose. I can’t simply change jobs to suit my own intangible satisfaction. When times are rough, knowing he is there for me strengthens my heart. “Turn all your anxiety over to God because he cares for you.” (1Pe 5:7)

Even though we might go through difficult times in our lives we are never alone. God sees, hears and knows all. WHAT A BLESSING!

Q4. What lesson is God teaching you out of Hagar's experience? Which situation that God is calling you to is most difficult for you to submit to?

Hagar's tribulations are an eye-opener for every Christian.
Firstly, don't take God's promises lightly and go ahead with your own plans.
Second, don't ill-treat the working staff in your home.
Third, remember that God cares for you no matter what you do. Either good or bad, He still cares for you and is looking down on His children. 2 Chron 7:14
Fourth, don't get discouraged by trying circumstances. Go ahead and depend on God.
Fifth, strain your ears to listen to the voice of the Lord. God is always speaking in so many different ways. We have to tune our ears to received His word and obey it.

So far whatever God gave me to do, I have been able to do without much trouble. In future, I have to keep on the tracks as times are changing and my talents are also changing, taking different tasks. By the grace of God, so far I have not faced any difficult situations. But if the need arises, I am sure God will take care of the situation and make me victorious over the circumstances.

even when we make mistakes God can use them for good,He is with us and for us to help us in any given situation

The lesson I am being taught out of Hagar's experience is maybe to be in
submission to those who have been placed in authority over me; to understand when desert times come into my life, that God has not forgotten me; to accept where God has placed me in the body of Christ.

A situation that God is calling me too is uncertain, but maybe it is waiting
on the Holy Spirit to receive from Him '"the power from on high" to do His
will, not knowing what is in my path to bring this about.

What lesson is God teaching you out of Hagar's experience?

To submit fully to His will and to stay out of His way while He directs my life.


Which situation that God is calling you to is most difficult for you to submit to?

A particular family situation that is taking place right now....too lengthy to go into. There is much pain over it and it's hard to be Christ minded through it.

Regardless of your feelings and affections about someone, you do not take up with someone else's mate but if it does happen you are to go and humble yourself to God and to the afflicted one.

To become more active in going to worship but working hard at it and praying for guidance and strength.

THAT IF WE OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS HE WILL BE FAITHFUL AND KEEP HIS PROMISES. WE HAVE THE SAME PROMISES THAT ABRAHAM HAD AND NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE IN LIFE GOD WILL KEEP THOSE PROMISES. GOD KNOWS US AND KNOWS WHAT WE NEED. WE DO NOT NEED TO RELY ON OUR OWN WILL.

MOST DIFFICULT TO TOTALLY SUBMIT TO GOD'S WILL FOR MY LIFE, BECAUSE NOT KNOWING IS HARD TO UNDERSTAND , THOUGH I KNOW THAT GOD KNOWS WHAT IS BEST. I DON'T LIKE UNCERTAINTY.

Q4. What lesson is God teaching you out of Hagar's experience? Which situation that God is calling you to is most difficult for you to submit to?

You know what. It wasn't even Hagar's fault that she became pregnant in the first place. She was just taken at somebody elses command. Then when she was with child, she probably gloated, maybe stuck her tongue out at Sara, because nananananana. But as I understand, she was still a child herself. I don't know where I got that, but I feel it's true. Anyway, Abraham & Sara didn't believe God, took the situation in their own hands, and then......Sara could have loved her even though she was showing off, and broke that cord of discontent, but either way, because of what they did & didn't do, Hagar's children were destined to rebellion, to being hated. I'm not trying to get down on anyone. Shoot, Adam had the chance to repent and turn it around, but chose not to and started the blame game instead. And now look what's happened. Mankind has sunk so low and not just now. Yet God still Loves us. That right there brings my motivation back to Christ!!! If these concubines & multiple wives was so acceptable & writen down in the law of man as okay, then why isn't it now. Praise God it's not! I see it over and over again though. Mankind is okay with some type of whatever and it's okay, until they decide it's not, and then it's not acceptable. Where's the heart through out history, through out the generations. On the sleeve maybe?

The thing that is most difficult for me to do, is being patient, although I thought I was a very patient person. I found out that I am not. I'm trying. I just have to get out of myself as I wait & do the things of God in trust, with humility and compassion in Christ. As He is compassionate for us, and has not given up on us. Actually for right at this moment, I think this particular Bible study is the hardest for me to submit to. I can analyse my anger all day over this, and what I find is me playing the blame game as I try to figure out what happened back then and what the purpose of it was. I don't even know why I got angry with this study. I thought I figured it out a few times, but none of that was it, because it's still there. I'm trying not to sin over it though. Maybe I'm feeling Gods anger.

I believe I’ve learned this leason already in dire circumstances, but I still need to be reminded of it daily. There will be other times, probably not as discouraging as the first, that I’ll need to remember and acknowledge that I am powerless to please God and that I can’t participate in the process of my salvation. I should be careful not to run away from my responsibilities. I should be encouraged that God sees where I’m at and He knows what I need, if only I will do as He commands and live through the difficulties, even if they are downright unpleasant.

There are a lot of things that God calls me to submit to that are difficult. It is sometimes hard to juggle the principles of Christianity on a daily basis. We are having to make decisions everyday that I would have to say are difficult at best. I have to say that the most difficult situation God is calling me to is witnessing. It is difficult to be rejected or challenged. Sometimes I suffer after trying to witness to someone. I feel like I’ve said the wrong thing or not enough. I pray that my life reflects a good witness to others, but I still feel that I’ve been inadequate at times. This is my most discouraging moment at times. Although I know it is not me, but Christ who they are rejecting, it still hurts tremendously. I won’t quit, though. No matter what the circumstances, I won’t quit.

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[color="blue"]4a.) What ever we do in life, God uses it in His plan for good. No matter, how insignificant you feel; you are special in God's eyes. Created in His image to have fellowship and a relationship with Him.[/color]
4b.) Which situation that God is calling you to is most difficult for you to submit to?
[color="blue"]4b.) I am going to have to lean toward total surrender and submission. Being a former Marine and currently a cop for almost twenty five years; I am use to having the control...difficult; but with God all things are possible. Semper Fi! [/color]

God does not like unfinished business. It is good to deal with situations, confront them and see what is really going on. Sometimes we need to repent, apologise, make amends, go back to a difficult situation and find the way through. In all that, God sees us, hears our cry, gives us the right path, and is our encouragement.

God is calling me back into schools at 63 years of age. This is not easy for me, but I can go with God and see what He does withthe situation! How exciting is that!

There are so many lessons to learn or to be confirmed in Hagar's experience. One is like the lesson Moses learned, that one burst of anger prohibited him from going into the promised land, and for Hagar the new habit of putting down her lord's wife because she could not have a child cost her dearly and she had to eat humble pie and return to the household in meekness and humility. Sin of any kind costs dearly. I've learned that even momentary giving in to my carnal nature has far-reaching consequences in my life. This knowledge, as much as any, puts me in holy fear of God.

It must have been incredibly hard and unjust for Hagar to be turned out of her decades-old security (Abraham's household) into the desert, there to find her own way after a lifetime of provision (even if she was a servant she was very well provided for). There is NO certainty of justice in this life. It didn't seem fair after all those years of service. There simply aren't any guarantees of security or anything else in this life, except for God's watchfulness over us and His provision for us, and our need to trust and obey Him. The rewards are in Heaven!

What lesson is God teaching you out of Hagar's experience?
[color="orange"]God is teaching me that jealousy can be a very detrimental feeling, and the consequences of this feeling can become a very sturdy wall between God and myself. He is teaching me to be totally dependent on Him, and to submit totally to Him and His wonderful guidance.[/color]

Which situation that God is calling you to is most difficult for you to submit to?
[color="orange"]To totally submit my family to him, to understand that my family belongs to Him, and that they are just "loaned" to me. God created my family, not through anything that I did, or have done, but through His wonderful grace towards me.[/color]

Q4. What lesson is God teaching you out of Hagar's experience?
All I need to do is to Trust and Obey Him, have Faith in His Promises, and He will always be there for me.

That God forgives (Hagar's pride) if we repent and submit to His will no matter how humbling it may be. We must be humble to enter His kingdom.

I'm not sure at this point what God is calling me to do. However, once I am certain of His will, I would love to perform it.

Put my trust in God he never forgets he never stops doing what he says he will. If we keep the faith all the things he has promised to us will be ours. Praise the Lord.