Q1. Work Out Your Own Salvation
#2
Posted 30 April 2005 - 06:19 AM
See Shepherds Chapel
#3
Posted 30 April 2005 - 02:17 PM
it means to look out for each other as a community in GOD. help out each other's needs and look out for each other in Paul's absence. this isn't sin but do onto others as you would have them do onto you.doing GOD's work until he returns to led us to heaven. what ever you do to thy brother, that you do onto me (Jesus (GOD))
#4
Posted 01 May 2005 - 07:16 AM
Yes, this salvation is from sin, of course. God has done all the work of the Cross,and given us the gift in the first place. But "work out your own salvation" is the ongoing part of salvation after the initial gift. As Simon of Cyrene helped carry Jesus' cross, (without knowing too much detail of the ordeal Jesus had already suffere d), so we too have to take up our (part of the) cross and continue to carry it to the end. Salvation always involved man having a (howbeit very small) part of co-operation with God. Yet, we carry the smaller part for none of us could do what Christ has done.There are those who come in at the end of the day (just before death) and are given the same wonderful wages of life that we receive, andthat it is God's joy and right to give. Salvation was always a covenant, provided in its completion by God, yet in which man also has a part.
Once I learned leadlight glass work in a seminar. However I did not go on with that art and now have lost completely the ability of do it. I was given the intro and the tools, and even completed a small project. However, now it is as though I never did it. Salvation is not unlike this, and must be worked on if it is to operate.
#5
Posted 01 May 2005 - 12:04 PM
(a) To "work out your salvation" means in this passage 2:12-13, is the Philippians as a body are to work out their problems and come to unity.
(b) No, this is not referring to salvation from sin.
© The kind of salvation it is referring to is becoming more like Christ (church-wide) and leaving sins behind. Sanctification. Both the life of the Church and the life of the community are to produce the fruit of their salvation, that is, peace, love, and harmony in the spirit.
#6
Posted 01 May 2005 - 12:16 PM
I believe this passage means we are to live out the Christian life with the godly attitude we should have as Christians and put God first and His work in us instead of our own selfish desires. We are to refrain from the path of sin which we were saved out of slavery from and walk a life of holy reverence to and for our Lord.
God Bless!
Jen
#7
Posted 01 May 2005 - 01:03 PM
Work out your own salvation means to live an obedient life, that being a Christian is working for God. This salvation is not obtained by works but rather is expressed by obedience to Christ. It is a continuing process both individually and as a group within the church. Jesus death on the cross already saved us from sin, however we must continually work at unity with other Christians.
#8
Posted 01 May 2005 - 02:05 PM
#9
Posted 01 May 2005 - 07:42 PM
“Do not merely listen to the word, and so deceive yourselves. Do what it says.” (Jam 1:22b)
#10
Posted 01 May 2005 - 07:46 PM
#11
Posted 01 May 2005 - 11:09 PM
It is referring to working out our day to day walk with the Lord, growing in our spirituality, and fruit of the Spirit.
#12
Posted 02 May 2005 - 12:42 AM
I believe Paul is telling the phillipians that they are to be steadfast, and
energetic in continuing with the things of God that he personally taught
them, example; As we therefore have received Christ Jesus the Lord , so
walk in Him, rooted and built up in Him and established in the faith, wherein
ye have been taught. I believe Paul is telling them to press on toward the
calling God has placed on their lives.
This is not salvation from sin, but a salvation which they already possess,
to which they should HOLD FAST, and a firm grip on the grace that God has
given to each one of them, lest anyone should try to decieve them.
#13
Posted 02 May 2005 - 02:18 AM
#14
Posted 02 May 2005 - 10:14 AM
This isn't talking about being saved from sin. No amount of human work could ever accomplish that - only God can. In this passage, we’re definitely called as a church body to work at displaying the unity of Christ to each other. Sometimes that truly is work! In truth, it’s only accomplished by the Spirit in each of us. Maybe it’s the salvation from our flesh.
#15
Posted 03 May 2005 - 02:00 AM
This is not speaking of salvation from sin, that we can't earn or work for, it is a gift from God.
The salvation in the church body to be ynited, of one accord, bringing about fruit in the Spirit. The whole body being humble and loving, relying only on God's strenght.
#16
Posted 03 May 2005 - 04:24 AM
He is not referring to salvation from sin so much as he wants the church to polish their mirror so as to better reflect the glory of Christ Jesus. This is to be done by abandoning their self-will and and coming to a spirit of submission to the will of God, and loving service to all brothers and sisters in Christ.
#17
Posted 03 May 2005 - 11:38 AM
Even as a christain, we still sin, and we have to go back ask for his forgiveness and move on.
Working out our salvation means that we should stive to keep on growing in the Lord. We keep at it because there will be turbulent times, trying times, trials, temptations etc. but we will not give up as it would make our faith more sronger in Him. There is no end to our growing in Crist until He comes to take us home and we will be judged with whatever He finds us doing. Like Paul said, forgetting those things that are behind but let's reach out to those things ahead of us so that we can become the best Christ would have us to be.
#18
Posted 03 May 2005 - 08:43 PM
#19
Posted 03 May 2005 - 11:17 PM
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[color=blue]1a.) Paull writes: "[/color][color=purple]For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid which is Jesus Christ. If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man's work. If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames[/color][color=blue]." (1 Corinthians 3:11-15)[/color]
1b.) (2:12-13). Is this referring to salvation from sin?
[color=blue]1b.) No.[/color]
1c.) (2:12-13). If not, what kind of salvation is it referring to?
[color=blue]1c.) The quotation above states it. Jesus tells us: "[/color][color=purple]I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing[/color][color=blue]." (John 15:5)[/color]
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#20
Posted 04 May 2005 - 12:29 PM
Paul is telling them to move on with their lives and not keep doing things that do not please God. To love and show all the fruit of the Spirit to each other. Not to grumble and complain but to stand in love and brother and sisters of the Lord to show love at all times.
Is this referring to salvation from sin?
We can never work our way out of sin it is a gift from God that is paid for by the blood of Jesus Christ on the cross. None of us are worthy of this gift but still Jesus did this for each of us.
If not, what kind of salvation is it referring to?
It is the unity of the Church that he is talking about to lift up those things he has said before he knows they do even when he is not there with them. To love and let the fruit of the Spirit show like the stars in a dark sky show let others see the love and let it reflect Christ Jesus.

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