Q4. Forgive As We Forgive
#2
Posted 10 September 2005 - 07:05 PM
#3
Posted 11 September 2005 - 07:50 PM
If we can't forgive others, then we aren't forgiven...kind of like conditional forgiveness. Just as we're judged by the measurement of judgement we use, we're forgiven by the same measurement we use in forgiving others.
#4
Posted 11 September 2005 - 09:48 PM
( human blood) and God can not see sin - so by always asking for forgiveness we are letting God know that WE KNOW we aren't really worthy of Him and secondly that we want to TRY to be worthy of all he has to offer. We "block" God's blessings by just the words in the Prayer...forgive us as we forgive others! Straight and to the point. To answer the 3'rd question - again...it's almost like making a covenant with God - I will give you what you give me - we SAY forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us. To me, the
"AS WE FORGIVE" are the keys words here in.
#5
Posted 12 September 2005 - 02:52 PM
We live in this sinful flesh - and will continue to sin. Repenting and acknowledging our sin is the step to changing us. If we are sinning - then we can't have fellowship with God or witht he body of Christ. If we refuse to forgive someone, there is a block horizontally and verticaly in our relationships. Unforgiveness makes the person we aren't forgiving - a god, taking the true God's place. This doesn't mean we have something to do with God forgiving us, He does so unconditionally - - but we must be truly repentent for the forgiveness to cover us - - walking towards the light!
#6
Posted 12 September 2005 - 08:46 PM
By being unforgiving we harbor that sin in ourselves and by doing such, we cannot receive God's grace. We must forgive so as not to harbor such things.
#7
Posted 13 September 2005 - 10:44 AM
Spirit vs flesh
The human flesh does not want to forgive it wants to get even.
The Spirit want forgiveness it wants to be free and have joy in the fellowship with the Father.
This is why Paul says "Die to flesh daily"
Paul also says "take up you cross" What does that mean? The cross is a exicution device. It kills the flesh.
If the flesh is out of the way then the Spirit can operate.
Forgiving and asking for forgivness is part of putting the flesh down.
Try daily to keep your flesh down so your Spirit can shine. If your Spirit is shinning you are a reflection of Christ.
#8
Posted 14 September 2005 - 05:27 AM
#9
Posted 14 September 2005 - 09:59 AM
Because we are born in sin as the Bible says, ' in sin did my mother concieve me'. God doesn't tolerate sin. Even though we are born again believers, we still sin because of our inherent system. Therefore, it is necessary that we keep on asking God for forgiveness, everytime we come to His throne of mercy. That is the second aspect of the model prayer. ACTS - Confession.
If we don't forgive people who hurt us, God's love doesn't abide in us. Even though Jesus was subjected to the highest form of torture and cruel death, He still could say Father, forgive them.... that is divine love. We may not be capable of going to that extent, but it is in our capacity to forgive those who have hurt us and caused us harm. By being Godly and forgiving in nature, inherits the blessings that God gives His children. When we forgive and follow the pattern set by Jesus, God also would forgive us and give us His blessings.
[FONT=Times]I can do all things through Christ that
strengthens me. Phil 4:13
#10
Posted 14 September 2005 - 11:57 AM
Because, in spite of "good intentions" we continually sin and must ask His forgiveness again.
In the Lord's prayer, we pray, "forgive us our transgressions AS we forgive those who transgress against us!" If we do not forgive others, we are asking God to not forgive us!
Also, when we are unforgiving to others, we are not in the right relationship (love) with others, so we are out of the will of God. He said we must love one another AS MUCH as we love ourselves, and few find that easy. So, if we do not obey Him in this, we are out of the Will of God. Only those who are right with God and man--or attempting to make things right--can receive God's forgiveness.
#11
Posted 14 September 2005 - 12:02 PM
Because we are continually living in a human environment where we get hurt by a silly comment, or a silly action by someone near to us, and we retaliate in a human nature, which is sinful.
How can unforgiveness on our part block God's blessing?
Unforgiveness of others can block God's blessing to us because our heart is not free from hurt and God wants us to forgive.
How can unforgiveness block God's forgiveness?
Unforgiveness can block God's forgiveness because we only receive as much forgiveness as we are willing to give.
#12
Posted 14 September 2005 - 12:30 PM
1st we sin everyday, not intentionaly but there it is. if we ask forgiveness as we relize that we've sinned then we can keep our souls clean and show GOD that we are truly sorry for our sins
How can unforgiveness on our part block God's blessing?
you want to be forgiven yet you are not willing to forgive. sounds pretty selfish to me a one way street. that's not the way it works. give and you shall recieve that goes for forgiveness as well.
How can unforgiveness block God's forgiveness?
Jesus said in John: that we should love each other as i have loved you. if you can't forgive them then we're not loving them. also during the last supper Jesus forgave Judas for what he was about to do. aren't we suppose to follow in his footstepts. i'm sure nothing we've been through can compare to what Jesus went through and he forgave. anyway if you can't forgive then you're not a true disciple of Jesus and won't be forgiven for your sins.
#13
Posted 14 September 2005 - 12:43 PM
Unforegivness can block God's blessings because it's a sin to not forgive and we must be quick to forgive. Anytime we sin unless we repent we miss out on God's blessings. He still blesses us but blesses us the more we obey Him.
Unforgivness can block God's forgivness because if we don't forgive others for their sins and what they do to us, God won't forgive us for our sins either.
#14
Posted 14 September 2005 - 12:56 PM
1.I do believe that God forgives unconditionally. Asking forgiveness reminds me that I am not God and need His forgiveness. Asking forgiveness makes me aware of my sin and reminds that I am not perfect and can't go on doing what I feel like.
2.I cheat myself by unforgiveness. A peacefull heart comes to mind as well as other things that aren't there when clouded by unforgiveness.
3. In part see aboove. By not forgiving are we playing God and passing judgement on someone??
#15
Posted 14 September 2005 - 12:58 PM
b..... If we don't forgive , God cannot bless us. We are holding a grudge and calling judgement on our lives.
c.....You must have a pure heart when asking for God's forgiveness. If you don't forgive then why ask God to forgive you!! We earn freedom from bondage by forgiveness.
#16
Posted 14 September 2005 - 01:57 PM
When we seek not to forgive those who have mistreated us or miguided us, when we seek not forgiveness for what we do to others, we block our blessings from Yahweh.
When we endeavor to hold on to unforgiveness we block forgiveness from Yahweh. He has life so fashion that, what you do to me, He does to you
Yahweh is of love. If you say that you love Yahweh whom you have never seen, and hated your brother whom you see , then you are a hyprocrite.
There are checks and balances in the world, There is forgiveness in the spiritual realm.
#17
Posted 14 September 2005 - 02:09 PM
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he himself must pass if he would ever reach heaven; for every one has need to be forgiven."
It is a wonderful image of what an unforgiving spirit looks like - a bridge broken and we cannnot pass over. Heaven is the dwelling place of the forgiven and if we desire to go there then we must forgive.
#18
Posted 14 September 2005 - 02:13 PM
Sometimes (many) I don't understand why, I try to do things just because God says. If this is off base please correct me false thinking. The Bible is not a set of rules and regulations. I have found that God's word is laid down as a benefit to me, not just a way to control me. If I remember to follow His word I am much better off and experience the joy of belonging to him. What helps me to put this in perspective is an acronym I heard. Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth. This tends to be overly simplistic
If our hands are overflowing with sin we don't have room for God to hand us his blessing. I truly wish I could just empty my hands completely and accept what God has to give me.
#20
Posted 14 September 2005 - 02:36 PM
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1. We need to continually ask for forgiveness because we are sinners. Even though He forgives us, we go right out and sin again. Christians try to learn to sin less all the time but the fact remains that we are and will continue to be, sinners in need of forgiveness. And we will not receive this forgiveness without asking.
2. Unforgiveness on our part is sin. We were commanded to forgive our brothers.
Matthew 18:21,22 (21) Then Peter came to Jesus and asked, "Lord, how many times shall I forgive m brother when he sins againse me? Up to seven times? (22) Jesus answered, [COLOR=red]"I tell you, not seven times, but seventy-seven times."
[COLOR=blue]Therefore, when we do not forgive, we are going directly against Jesus' teaching. Not a really good idea if you want to be a good Christian.
3. Unforgiveness blocks forgiveness because we will not be forgiven while we are still unrepentent. And while we are unforgiving we still have "stiff necks" as they used to say in the Bible. We are exhibiting pride and not letting God take care of the situation. And we have already learned in this lesson that we are to rely on God for everything. We are to trust in Him and not in ourselves. When we do not forgive we are holding onto the old ways. God wants us to accept His new ways and trust Him, not do things as usual.

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