Q2. Humility and Boldness in Prayer
#2
Posted 24 September 2005 - 06:12 AM
Abraham was very cognizant of his place and that he was nothing but dust and ashes before an almighty Elohim.
Boldness must be tempered with humility lest we forget who we are and to whom we speak. Abraham remembered both and took the opportunity to become intimate with Elohim. We as well have that same invitation to become intimate with Elohim.
#3
Posted 24 September 2005 - 09:52 AM
27Then Abraham spoke up again: "Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the LORD, though I am nothing but dust and ashes,
30Then he said, "May the LORD not be angry, but let me speak.
31Abraham said, "Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the LORD,
32Then he said, "May the LORD not be angry, but let me speak just once more.
Abraham knows he is nothing but dust and ashes and he ask to speak. He also asks that God not to be angry with him.
This kind of boldness is by faith in our position in Christ. Not our confidence in our selves. Humility is because we know that this position is only by the grace of God.
#4
Posted 24 September 2005 - 12:09 PM
Abraham states that he is but dust and ashes. He speaks of his boldness in pleading with the Lord.
Here again is an example of God's condescending grace towards men who are but dust and ashes.
Matthew Henry saws that "God is pleased when He is wrestled with." How blessed we are that God is God.
Why must boldness be tempered wth humility?
That seems like a silly question if you understand who men are and who God is. The fact is that people are presumptuous and think more hightly of themselves than they are for they are dust and ashes and all our righteousness is as dirty rags. Abraham showed his understanding of who the Lord of the universe is and who he was in His prayer and may we who know Him never forget it.
God bless!
Jen
Numbers 6:24-26
#5
Posted 24 September 2005 - 03:14 PM
Abraham states he is dust and ashes before God - again his faith is obvious an he knows that God is merciful and loving, that is why he boldly goes before him - not in a fit of anger or rage - but in the manner a bondservant goes to his Master. Humility is an act of worship - a sacrifice of praise to God - aligning us correctly before Him. I believe that Abraham looked forward to Messiah and approached with this knowledge in his heart.
#6
Posted 25 September 2005 - 07:36 AM
By recognising the fact that he was made from dust and is nothing but dust, of no value, very insignificant. Before the Almighty God, that's what we are. We must never forget that important fact that we are NOT IMPORTANT, if God choses. But its the contrary. God has given us His rights, to be called the children of God, John 1:12. So when we come before God, we must always remember that fact that we are what we are by His grace alone and not because of our birth.
Why must boldness be tempered with humility?
God has given us the privilege of being called His children. That gives us right to have continous access to Him. But that does not deny the fact that we are still human beings, created out of dust. Physically, we are still nothing in the sight of God. That's where we should be aware of our position and come to Him in all humility. We come to His throne of mercy with boldness because He has given us the right to be His child, but we should humble ourselves before His Awesome Presence conscious of our physical attributes.
[FONT=Times]I can do all things through Christ that
strengthens me. Phil 4:13
#7
Posted 25 September 2005 - 10:37 AM
Something I am seeing in these great pray-ers is that anyone who develops an intimate, genuine relationship with the Lord will be given unbelievable access to come before Him to boldly speak openly and honestly. He desires the give and take of real conversation! But that would be face-to-face, not “in-your-face”! Boldness must be tempered with humility to keep us from being arrogant or presumptuous with God. He honors the poor in spirit and the meek, not the haughty and proud.
#8
Posted 25 September 2005 - 10:46 PM
Even though God has invited us to be intimate with Him, we must mantain the realization of God's awesomeness. It is through the shed blood of Jesus Christ that we have the privilege to come directly to God with our praise, adoration and requests. That alone should make us humble that Jesus provided us with this awesome privilege.
#9
Posted 26 September 2005 - 12:10 PM
Boldness without respect or humility is self serving. It takes on an attitude of trying to intimidate someone to do what you want them to do for you. Abraham's request was almost like he was quizing God on how does He think. He wanted to KNOW God. That should be our goal- to KNOW Him & the only way we can do that is spend time with Him & ask Him questions like Abraham did.
#10
Posted 26 September 2005 - 12:54 PM
He admitted he was as dust before the Lord. He also requested God to forgive him for asking again and again, lowering the number that would bring salvation to Sodom.
Why temper boldness with humility? We are only dust before Him! We really have no right to come before Him and ask that He change His mind on anything! So, we must admit this and be humble before Him. He will hear us if we admit our nothingness before His Majesty! If we think we have the right to demand something from the Lord Almighty, we will quickly find that He will not hear anything that comes from pride of self! The only thing we have to boast in is that God has adopted us--not because we deserve it, but that He has mercy on us!
#11
Posted 26 September 2005 - 01:02 PM
To save any righteous people found there. God had promised Abraham that if he would trust and obey Him, that he would become a great nation. Abraham must be a just, and godly man. God knows that Abraham will do what is righteous. And so, Abraham expects God to be just Himself. "Don't kill the righteous along with the ungodly" says Abraham.
How does it relate to God's character?
It relates because God is righteous. He cannot commit sin. And Abraham classes the killing of righteous people to be sinful, and so he tells God how he feels.
We had a Concert of Prayer at church last evening. It was wonderful. Very uplifting. Very close to Jesus.
#12
Posted 26 September 2005 - 01:07 PM
Q2. How did Abraham demonstrate his humility before God?
He humbled himself and kept letting the Lord know that he knew his place, while letting God know also that he expected God to listen to him.
Why must boldness be tempered with humility?
We cannot be bold without humbleness, because that would be like admitting that we think we know more than God does.
(And that is a big No,No)
#13
Posted 26 September 2005 - 01:52 PM
We were created for a singular purpose, that purpose is for God's pleasure. What pleasure it must have given the LORD for Abraham to trust Him so much as to present his prayer to Him instead of, like Adam, hiding his shame behind a fig tree. Was Abraham bold or did he just have an honest, trusting relationship with the LORD?
Boldness comes out of selfishness, humility comes out of selflessness, a mix is only good when self is identified with who we are in Christ. Not self-centered, but Christ-centered.
Darrell
#14
Posted 26 September 2005 - 01:58 PM
Abraham asks for the Lord's indulgence repeatedly acknowledging his own humble place before Almightly God. He already knows our hearts and thoughts. We can't place ourselves above God.
#15
Posted 26 September 2005 - 02:49 PM
He said right out that he knew he was formed from dust and he knew that God had breathed the breath of life into Adam and he was a decedent from Adam. He knew that God was the one that did all things to make this world and how long it took him to do so. He had seen the anger of God and what he would do. He knew that God was and is All Powerful and Almighty. He told God he was nothing but dust and ashes and ask if he could speak boldly before him again. He knew the power of God and he knew also the love of God.
Why must boldness be tempered with humility?
Hbr 4:16 Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need.
We know how we are with our children and we are the children of God. We can speak our mind as long as we do it with respect and knowing he is the All Knowing (1John 3:20) and the All Powerful (Jer 32:17 and 27) He wants us to talk with him and be bold about our needs and he still demands our respect as our Father.
#16
Posted 26 September 2005 - 03:52 PM
How did Abraham demonstrate his humility before God?
By repeatedly acknowledging his own humble place before Almighty God.
Why must boldness be tempered with humility?
When we come to God with boldness we must realize who God is. God is our Father, king of heaven and He is awesome and holy. We must not think we know better than our God.
#18
Posted 26 September 2005 - 04:31 PM
He demonstrated his humility by the way he approached God. He approached Him with reverence. He recognized God as righteous, and just, and holy. Because he knew his place (dust and ashes) he didn’t swagger into the presence of God. He was very much aware that he was approaching an awesome, holy, majestic God.
Why must boldness be tempered with humility?
I think that boldness and humility both come with recognizing our position. We are in Christ, and because of that relationship we can come with assurance to the Father. There is a difference between boldness and brashness. To approach God with brashness would be to come into God’s presence with arrogant impudence. Knowing our Father will give us boldness (I’m a child of the King) and humility (I did nothing to merit my position in Him) at the same time.
#19
Posted 26 September 2005 - 06:27 PM
By acknowledging his nothing position and God's Creator-all-powerful one.
God has told us to approach with boldness, but we acknowledge our position and ability to approach is only due to His graciousness because of Jesus' death and substitionary work on our behalf.
#20
Posted 26 September 2005 - 06:36 PM
Abrham answered, Behold now, I am but dust and ashes have taken upon myself to speak to the Lord. He was not afriaid to come to the Lord with boldness, even though he was nothing but dust and ashes. God showed Abraham that asking ofr anything is allowed, with the understanding that God's answeres come from God's perspective. They are not always in harmony with our expectations, for he knows the whole story. We should come boldly to God and expect with grace and humility he will answer in the way according to God's will not ours.

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