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Q3. Praying to a Wealthy God

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 02 December 2005 - 02:08 AM

Q3. (1:18) What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken? How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?
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Posted 03 December 2005 - 04:11 AM

If God were poverty-stricken, He would have no better resources to draw on than I do! I wouldn't be able to count on Him for power, ability, or provision for any need I have. Such a condition would definitely influence my faith and prayers - in a negative way. I couldn't expect He could help me, and so I wouldn't ask and believe. What a conviction I sense as I write these statements. Although the Lord is absolutely NOT poverty-stricken, too many believers too much of the time act as though He is just that. We DON'T act as though He has better resources to draw on than we do. We DON'T count on Him for power, ability, or provision for the needs we have. We DON'T really trust He can help so we DON'T ask and believe. Our flawed perception of the Lord then weakens our faith and prayers, and it paralyzes us in our defeated, weak, and impoverished condition.

To really gain insight of the truth of our inheritance in Christ would transform us. Not only does the Lord have a glorious rich supply set aside and designated for believers to see us through this mortal life, He has an inheritance established in and permeated with glory awaiting us for our future life in eternity. And this inheritance is already "in the saints" - in me! I know from Colossians 1:27 that my hope of glory is Christ in me. This inheritance of, by, and in glory has already been sealed in me by the presence of His Spirit within. My confident assurance that this hope will one day be fully and tangibly realized (Heb.11:1) is the empowering faith that should motivate me to stop living daily life and communicating with the Lord as though I am poverty-stricken. As His child, I am rich in glory (which, from Strong's concordance, I draw a composite meaning of "fullness, heft, weight of dignity, honor, splendor")! I need to claim possession of what He has given to me. In Him, I am no lightweight to be helplessly tossed around by the enemy like a rag doll, or to cower in fear at every crisis, or to live like a defeated pauper! Praise my glorious Lord…I think I just got myself all stirred up with some powerful encouragement!!!

Again, I would say that Paul's example of prayer is perfect. I can pray for other believers the same way - that the Father of glory would give insight for them to see and know the riches of His glorious inheritance that already is found in them.
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Posted 03 December 2005 - 01:59 PM

What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken?

How can you expect to get help from someone you think is no better off then your self? Your prayers are really just empty words if you don’t believe in a all powerful all knowing God.

How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers?

Jesus was resurrected to sit at the right hand of the Father. We are offered that same position if we would believe that Jesus is our Lord and Savior. What an inheritance!
When we except Jesus as our Lord and Savior we join the Kingdom of God, it is now not when we die. If you except this position by faith then your prayer life takes on a whole new dimension because you are sitting beside of Jesus talking to him one on one.

How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?

That the eyes of their heart be opened to the life and truth of Christ and the light of Christ would shine on their life.
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Post icon  Posted 06 December 2005 - 09:14 AM

Q3. (1:18) What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken? How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?



If the believers think that God is poverty stricken, then the result would be nil because the very prayers will be formal and name' sake. They will be mouthing the prayers without any conviction. In effect, it will be a waste time. Whereas the knowledge of our glorious inheritance will prod us to pray with expectancy, to live our lives full of zeal and vigor. Motivation is there to excel in our endeavors and earn brighter crowns and bigger mansions, so to speak. We know we will rewarded according to our efforts. 5 Talents will be added 5 more and 2 talents will be added two more. The incentive to fare better in the kingdom of God is the crown of glory that the glorious King will give to us. Our prayers will be in sync to our lives and in return we will pray for others that they too would be exposed to this glorious vision and do better in thier lives.
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Posted 06 December 2005 - 03:07 PM

Q3. (1:18) What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken? How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?

If believers thought that God was poverty-stricken I don't believe he would have many followers. If people thought that God could do no better then themselves why bother. If they could just understand what awaits them, not in material things but in eternal things "God's Riches At Christ's Expense". I would pray that their gearts be opened so that they would truly understand everthing that awaits them.
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Posted 06 December 2005 - 04:01 PM

.They don't really expect a lot if they don't believe that God is wealthy. He owns the cattle on a thousand hills and the hills too. Wimpy, weak prayers produce very little. What we think is impossible God says just believe and have faith, for I make all things possible.
To share in the Glorious inheritance makes the adrenalin flow, just to know that one day I will be in the presence of my Creator and inherit those riches, WOW!!! And to recognize that I have the same power as the prophets & priests of old makes the desire to pray more evident every day.
To pray for others in the same way. To have the eyes of their hearts opened to see all that God has provided for us "His Children" and to grasp on to it What a wonderful world this would be if we were all that much!! Everybody would be praying & laying on hands for healing.
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Posted 06 December 2005 - 05:34 PM

Q3. (1:18) What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken?
IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT MANY LIVE THEIR LIVES WITH THIS BELIEF SYSTEM TODAY. THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS INHERITANCE OFFERED BY GOD BUT CHOOSE THE INHERITENCE THEY CAN ACQUIRE HERE ON THIS EARTH INSTEAD. THE INHERITENCE THEY CAN PROVIDE TO FEED THEIR OWN EGO'S. SOME PREFER THE EARTHLY REWARD WE CAN SHOW OUR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, IMPRESS OUR ENEMIES AND FEEL A REAL SENSE OF ACCOMPLICEMENT FROM. THAT IS WHY PAUL STATES THAT MANY "FALL SHORT" BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COMPREHEND THAT THERE IS AND WILL BE A GREATER REWARD IN HEAVEN.

How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives?
IT MOTIVATES ME TO LOOK FORWARD TO THE REWARD MY FATHER HAS SETUP IN HEAVEN FOR ME. TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE AND NOT ONLY SEE THE SMALL REWARDS OFFERED HERE ON EARTH. NOT TO TAKE UP AND WORSHIP EARTHLY TREASURES FOR THEY HAVE NO MEANING. BUT TO LOOK FOR THE PRIZE THAT WILL COME IN THE END. THE GRAND PRIZE OF PRIZES.

Our prayers?
IT DIRECTS OUR PRAYS AWAY FROM EARTHLY TREASURES AND FOCUSES ON THE REWARD WE WILL RECEIVE IN HEAVEN. IT LET'S OUR FATHER KNOW THAT WE REMEMBER THE GREAT PRICE JESUS PAID FOR US TO RECEIVE THIS GRAND INHERITANCE.

How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?
WE CAN PRAY LIKE PAUL THAT OTHERS WILL BE ABLE TO COMPREHEND IN TIME AND NOT FALL SHORT OF THE GREATEST REWARD THAT IS OUR INHERITENCE. A REWARD THAT IS BEYOND ANYTHING WE CAN COMPARE TO ANY EARTHLY TREASURE WE SETUP FOR OURSELVES.
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Post icon  Posted 06 December 2005 - 05:46 PM

Q3. (1:18) What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken? How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?

Result is low expectations - if God is poverty stricken - then why pray in the first place. - would people even believe or worship Him.

Knowing we have a glorious inheritance is encouraging - it is where we accumulate ou treasures not on earthly things. Altho the inheritance is our desire - our motivation should be the mere fact that we love God - because He is God.

We can pray with excitement, love and sincerety for others to understand and glimpse this inheritance. Praying for their eyes to be opened and also praying that we will be the best possible example - reflecting our Messiah to show this inheritance.
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Posted 06 December 2005 - 08:19 PM

What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken? How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?

If you don't think God has much you are not going to ask for much if anything at all. It motivates joy into our lives. fills our prayers with hope and faith. Once again, pray that the full love of God be revealed to them. As Paul said, the eyes of their understanding be enlightened. I pray that the Lord will reveal His word to them, if not me, then to send a servant who will have the words from God that they will be able to hear. I pray for the Lord to prepare their hearts to receive the seed of the word in good ground so that it will take deep root and grow.
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Posted 07 December 2005 - 03:21 AM

Q3. (1:18) What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken? No one in his or her right mind would think that God is Poverty stricken. He is a God of abundance. People pray according to their needs and are confined to a need basis. I guess it is a matter of your condition when praying. Gaining strength from the Lord in times of sittuations and storms so that your views of the Father are not blurred and that you pray with a sound mind knowing that he is a God who's love is so enduring. Have Faith and be strong and confident in the Lord. Let his spirit be our Guide and consellor so that we do not pray prayers of limitation to our God. Amen

How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Often times men is so bogged down with the earthly struggles and sometimes the thought of the glorious inheritance does not occur at all. Only when when takes times and prayers in spirit and in truth that truth shall be manifested through revelations of the Holy Spirit. Be still and know that I am the LOrd he, says to us. Peace of the mind and the spirit are to to be pursued so that you are not disillisioned and caused to pray hasty prayers under pressure.

Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?
Prayer that others can be blessed with peace and trust the Lord for he is good and will always keep his promise. Pray that an abundance of peace be upon others so that they do not digress and pray randomly. Pray that others can be reminded to pray ceasely for strenght and courage to endure.
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Posted 07 December 2005 - 01:44 PM

One result would be a cessation of prayer. What's the use. All hope would be for naught. If our God isn't greater than us, then we're the same, only one of us is calling himself God. Talk about a real downer.

Once we realize that God has riches in store for the faithful Saints, eyes that have not yet seen, nor ears that couldn't possibly hear of it and a heart that couldn't comprehind what God has in store for us. I want that. It gives me motivation and hope. That after living a life now, sometimes going without there's a better life ahead.

My prayers become not so much a "gimmie" list, but I can ask for things within His Word and watch Him honar my Faith. It provkes me to rely upon Him for everything, and ask Him anything (within His bounderies).

I'd pray that they abandon themselves to God and dive deeply into His Word for comfirmation. God is not a man that He should Lie ... I'd suggest if they can find their need in His Word, then there's also close by an answer. I'd encourage them to read His last will and testament (OT & NT) for humanity, find out what God said is ours. What we can ask for and receive now, and what we can expect to receive after this life is over.
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Posted 07 December 2005 - 06:51 PM

Q3, What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverity-stricken? How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?

God is not poverity-stricken, He is glorious and full of abundance in ones life. We are motivated by our inner awearness. The "Hope" We are motivated by the hope that is in us. In the Message I like it best. "But I do more that thak. I ask--ask the God of our Master, Jesus Christ, the God of Glory--to make you intelligent and discerning in knowing hom personally, your eyes focused and clear, so that you can see exactly what is is he is calling you to do. grasp the immensity of this glorious way of life he has for Christians, oh the utter extravagance of his work in us who trust him--endless, energy, boundless strength. "
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Posted 07 December 2005 - 09:51 PM

Q3, What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverity-stricken? How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?

If believers thinks that God is poverty-stricken, their view of God's power would be greatly diminished. All that is in the universe really belongs to him. He is able to do more than our minds can comprehend with whatever resources he desires.

Knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" should motivate us to pray boldly with complete faith that God is able to do all that He says He is able to do. We should pray scriptures back to God that illustrate the promises that He has made to us.

We can pray that all Christians will realize the wealth that is the Father's and that we are heirs to this wealth. Praise the Lord, I'm a child of the King!
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Posted 08 December 2005 - 01:57 AM

This world is full of God's rich provisions for all his people, if you think God is a God of poverty just look around at what He has provided and you will see His richkes. There are people living in poverty true, but this is not of God's doing, it is of mans doing.
Prosperity preaching has done more harm to the word of God than anything else I can imagine. The book "The prayer of Jabez" is a good example. Throughout the book the author (cannot remember the guys name) says to pray this prayer and prosperity will come your way. Put a calender on the frig. Mark it off daily for a month and see if God does not answer your prayers.
Now, just imagine if at the end of 30 days of praying the prayer of Jabez with great faith and expectations, your rent is still one month behind and your shoes still have holes in them and your car still won't start, Who are you going to be upset with? Other than yourself for spending $10 on a worthless book. Then you turn on the T.V. and here a prosperity preacher asking for donations with a claim that he wants to be a trillionaire because the world has billionaires already. Gettring rich off the donations of the poor. Lets get into the word here and see what is truth.
The truth is that Jesus said the poor will always be among you. It is not by their choice nor by God's desire, it is by the greed of a few. Jesus said His ways are not the ways of the world nor His values the values of the world, what we hoard so much God uses for pavement. I cannot see where some people would want to spend 10,000 dollars or more on a bunch of gawdy jewlery to show off and praise God for it. Just baffles my mind.
And to top it off I wonder why Paul stripped off everything of the world so as not to impeed his race to the goal. What was his goal? More money? No the reward and the goal are not of this world.

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Posted 08 December 2005 - 07:19 PM

As much as I hate to say it, if God is poverty-stricken than He has nothing to offer us, and we, well, will not take Him seriously, as He has nothing to offer us.

I am motivated by riches of grace, and everlasting peace.

My prayers are motivated right now, by the desire to know the God who is passionate about my relationship with Him.

I can pray for God to open the eyes of their hearts, like He did mine.
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 01:09 PM

What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken?
that it's worthless. you do things (pray) because you have hope. otherwise why do it.

How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers?
a reason to do it. something to come out of it. being able to inherit an ever lasting life in heaven with GOD.

How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?
you see someone in trouble would you go over and do what you can. needing salavation is someone in need of help from GOD and your prayer is part of your helping in a way that you can.
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 08:15 PM

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If God is poverty-stricken what is the point?

It is exciting to know that there is something better waiting for us.

It is motivating, kind of gives us a push, sometimes a shove, to do His will. To pray more earnestly for others as well as ourlseves to get to know Him better.

We can pray for others to see the greatness of God and all that He offers us and all that is waiting for us.


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Posted 13 December 2005 - 02:26 AM

If believers think God is poverty stricken they will not excercise faith and prayer will be ineffective. Our God is a God of abundant life, overflowing joy, and ownership beyond our imagination. To see Him as less is to embrace a lie and not to know Him. But God promises us in 1Cor13 that one day we will know Him as He now knows us. Meanwhile he gives us lots of clues! He encourages us to explore Him. Exploring creation is a great and wonderful thing, but even that does not begin to compare with exploring our relationship with our Creator!

Knowledge of our great inheritance takes our eyes off this world as the source of all our joy and sustenance. We live in the other world and travel for a small time in this one. We are actually clean (washed by the blood of the Lamb). However, this world that we travel in gets our feet dirty, and Jesus is constantly washing our feet. But our hearts and heads are in the other world of Heaven, feeding at the banquet table of God's word and revelation, on the body and blood of the lamb. We are carrying our cross of love and service to the people of this world, and in imitation of Him we are trying to love them into His world, because we have the mind of Christ. So we live as He did, prayerfully and with vision, (the eyes of our hearts opened) which motivates our lives and prayers.

Our whole life is a prayer. We are a letter written by God to the world. Everything in our lives must reflect the love of Jesus and the values of Jesus. Like Him we spend time in the closet with Father and this drives the rest of our lives. For everyone we meet our longing and prayer is that their eyes be opened, and everything we do is for that purpose. Our business is to relect the image and glory of our Lord. That is our prayer.
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Posted 14 December 2005 - 06:49 AM

What is the result of prayer and faith if God is poverty-striken?
Then we know that something wonderful is awaiting us cause we will one day really get to know who God is.
He is a God who is full of abundance and blessings if we cannot see that then we can be poverty striken

How does knowledge of a glorious inheritance help our prayers?
To be filled with the hope that as christians we will inherit the kingdom of heaven one day
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Post icon  Posted 14 December 2005 - 02:37 PM

Q3. (1:18) What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken? How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives? Our prayers? How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?

What is the result in prayer and faith if believers think that God is poverty-stricken?

If we think him poverty stricken. He would not be a God that provides for our needs. We would not see any results in our prayers they would fall flat. :(

How does knowledge of a "glorious inheritance" motivate our lives?

Knowing we are in him. Everything he has becomes ours. Knowing that we can believe we will receive everything we have need of from him. :rolleyes:

Our prayers?

In our prayers we can pray believing that he has the means to answer our prayers. :rolleyes:

How can you pray for others to glimpse this inheritance?

For God to open their eyes to see all he has already done and will do for them if they ask him. :)
God bless,
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