Q4. Seated with Christ in Heavenly Places
#2
Posted 07 October 2006 - 06:08 PM
God's transforming Word sets me Free (John 8) and elevates me above the powers of my flesh. Walking in His spirit is so peaceful and freeing. Being alive in Christ really means everything to me.
God's Grace allows me to sit with Him - in heaven? These words seem so matter of fact, yet it this is really an 'inconceivable' thought when you ponder it. Praying to our Abba Father, the Creator, Lord of Lords - only by God's Grace can these 'inconceivable' thoughts be true.
Ken Haynes
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#3
Posted 07 October 2006 - 11:46 PM
#4
Posted 10 October 2006 - 04:07 AM
We are joint heirs with Jesus so we naturally would gain joint seating arrangements with Him as well. I know that this may seem silly because as my King, I find it kind of odd that I would be subject to Him as a servant but yet a joint heir. When Jesus shared with the Disciples how to pray He said, say it in this way, “Our Father, which art in heaven.” He could have said My Father, but Jesus recognized them as his brothers. So when Paul was sharing this bit of info, he knew what he was talking about. We are sojourners in this land, a peculiar people passing through. Really we are already seated with Jesus and this is but a phase of our tour of duty one might say.
God is unique in His knowledge and is in control of the future. Here in Isaiah, He made this declaration. Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
His righteousness is near us and we do not have to wait for His salvation from this planet. We are already seated with Him. We are in the presence of The Anointed One, Our Messiah.
What does this say about God's grace? What ever we face here in earth time, it will always be sufficient because we are able to get through it because He is always with us, even to the end of the earth.
What does this say about our spiritual authority? We have kingdom authority and we do not have to hide it or be hid from it. Satan knows who has authority and he is always trying to bluff us by whispering doubts in our minds. We just gotta turn him off and cut him down every time we are aware of his voice. It is extremely important to never walk afraid of Him, but always keep our armor polished in the Word because he is very effective because he knows every single scripture backwards because his truth is backwards. He is a scheming liar and a bully and we can not fight him on our own and we must not think that we can. With out Jesus, he will eat us alive and spit us out because he really does not care one hoot about us, what so ever.
How should this knowledge affect our prayers and our boldness? We can go before the Throne in humbleness because God has sent His son Jesus to tear down the walls that had separated us from Him. Our eternal life with Christ is certain because we are united in His powerful victory.
We are reconciled to God through Christ Jesus and in this we can be assured. Satan can not steal our prayers from us, this we can boldly know, so what ever we share with Jesus is between us and Jesus. We do not pray to satan. He knows his boundary and he knows that he can not enter in the kingdom. He is not allowed and he is not our God. Though he will never stop trying. Until our last breath and we are safely tucked in the arms of God, he will always try. We are never to turn our back to him. We do not live under his sinful power and we have already been found, not guilty. To God be all this Glory!
#5 Guest_Tabatha_*
Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:30 PM
It means we are together with Christ in the heavenly realms. We are alive in Christ. Spiritually we are conquers over our circumstances. He is always right beside us in our difficulities. We can sit down with Christ and fellowship with Him In the heavenlies. We can also fellowship with God in this heavenly realm
We are in Him and He is in us.
#2 God's Grace is more than forgiveness, God's grace gives us the necessary equipment to go forth in victory over the enemy in is his onslaught against us. If only we could get that concept into our spirit and out of our heads what a power house we would be for the kingdom of God.
# 3 We have that Spiritual authority in us, all we have to do is release it it boldly. We can put the enemy under our feet and stopm on him. We need to use the spoken word more and more against the enemy as Jesus did. We are alive in Christ not dead so there fore we ARE weapons against the devil. in stead of whining and complaining we need to stand our ground and smack the devil in the face with the word of God. Cast down those imaginations down in those hight place agains the demonic forces daily in our prayer time.
#4 It shoul affect us with excitement and joy knowing the power we have in Christ. It should give us a freedom to live in hope to the revelation of our inheritance. We have all the things in CHrist necessary to fight the enemy. We are equiped with His Spirit. That same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead has also given us life. Praise God. We need to pray like we mean it not with namby pamby words that the enemy laughs at. BOLDNESS is the answer.
Tabatha, on Oct 10 2006, 08:24 AM, said:
It means we are together with Christ in the heavenly realms. We are alive in Christ. Spiritually we are conquers over our circumstances. He is always right beside us in our difficulities. We can sit down with Christ and fellowship with Him In the heavenlies. We can also fellowship with God in this heavenly realm
We are in Him and He is in us.
#2 God's Grace is more than forgiveness, God's grace gives us the necessary equipment to go forth in victory over the enemy in his onslaught against us. If only we could get that concept into our spirit and out of our heads what a power house we would be for the kingdom of God.
# 3 We have that Spiritual authority in us, all we have to do is release it boldly. We can put the enemy under our feet and stomp on him. We need to use the spoken word more and more against the enemy as Jesus did. We are alive in Christ not dead so there fore we ARE weapons against the devil. in stead of whining and complaining we need to stand our ground and smack the devil in the face with the word of God. Cast down those imaginations in high place againts the demonic forces daily in our prayer time.
#4 It should affect us with excitement and joy knowing the power we have in Christ. It should give us a freedom to live in hope to the revelation of our inheritance. We have all the things in CHrist necessary to fight the enemy. We are equiped with His Spirit. That same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead has also given us life. Praise God. We need to pray like we mean it not with namby pamby words that the enemy laughs at. BOLDNESS is the answer.
#6
Posted 11 October 2006 - 01:32 AM
[Isn't it interesting that it's exactly the opposite on earth? Here, He dwells within me. The world sees me first, Christ second. As a vessel of His Spirit, His activities are basically limited to what I agree for them to be through me. And the work is urgent and unfinished here; it's not time to sit down and rest yet. Thank you, LORD, for the hope of my future in Christ!]
This position I now have demonstrates the astounding grace of God. I'm nothing but a rebellious sinner, unrighteous by nature. But because of the Father's great love shown through Christ's finished work of redemption, I've been covered in His holiness, recreated with new spiritual life, and restored to Yahweh. Because my spirit is alive in Him, I'm positioned in Him as He is above all other powers, authorities, and rulers on earth or in the heavenlies. On earth, as I yield more and more of myself to Him, it will be true in my experiences of life that "greater is He that is in me than he that is in the world" (1 John 4:4)! It is possible that I can live above any controlling power of my flesh, the world, or the devil. Spiritual power and authority dwell right within me. As I access them and equip myself with them through greater and greater faith, the Spirit will deliver more victory than I can imagine. I do not need to hesitate to confidently speak my heart to the Father and seek His heart for me. My prayer life should be bold and expectant when I pray from my position in Christ.
#7
Posted 11 October 2006 - 03:04 AM
#8
Posted 11 October 2006 - 12:07 PM
Through God's grace, we are transformed daily and we can equip ourselves now to live Godly lives and impact the lives of others. We need to put on God's full coat of armor. We need to study our instruction booklet (the Bible) and commune with the Father daily and pray for revelation. We need to pray for God to reveal himself to us.
As Christians, we have authority over the demonic and worldly things. We have authority over Satan and his imps from hell. We are above Satan. He is under our feet. As Christians, we can rebuke Satan and rebuke the evilness in this world.
We need to pray for revelation from God. We need to boldly come into God's throne room with thanksgiving and beg for revelation. We need to have the blinders lifted from our eyes and heart. We need to have the scales lifed from our eyes and heart. We need to put into action what God has promised us in His Word. As I have mentioned in other questions, "As Christians, we can take authority over Satan and the evil things of this world. We have nothing to fear. We are covered with the precious Blood of Jesus." I thank God for the teachings I have received on spiritual warefare. I thank God for the boldness he has placed in me.
#9
Posted 11 October 2006 - 12:15 PM
Pastor Ralph, on Jul 24 2006, 02:30 AM, said:
Because of Christ's resurrection, we know that our body will also be raised from the dead and that we have been given the power to live as Christians now. These ideas are combined in Paul's image of sitting with Christ in "the heavenly realms". Our eternal life with Christ is certain because we are united in his powerful victory.
#10
Posted 11 October 2006 - 12:59 PM
By His power we are seated with Him above the demonic attackes we face here on earth, above our own flesh by faith we rise above it all.
God's grace isn't just for getting saved but it is the staying power to keep us victorious from day to day going from Glory t Glory.
We have all the spiritual authority we need to overcome anything that life offers if we exercise it through Jesus Christ .
We should boldly pray and expect those prayers to be answer. We are the instuments that God uses in this world to accomplish his will and by trusting in Jesus Christ and using the power given us we can do all things through Christ when strengthens us.
#11
Posted 11 October 2006 - 02:27 PM
God's grace is truly amazing. As the song says: "Who am I, that the Lord of all the earth would care to know my name?..." much less even consider me to be as His Son, who has been with Him since before time began. This is too wonderful for me to comprehend.
Jesus has given us authority over all things spiritual, especially the devil, whom we can resist at anytime and at all times. We can also exercise this power over our flesh and the world. We are only obligated to listen to the still small voice of the Holy Spirit and utilize this great gift to the fullest extent possible.
We have direct access to the Holiest of Holies and should approach this realm with boldness and confidence, knowing that the prayers of a righteous person avails much. In other words, we have a private line with the Creator of all things. Awesome!
#12
Posted 11 October 2006 - 05:27 PM
There is no need to shrink away into the corner, we are empowered by God to do His Work with Him! We/I need to take note of that each day & expect Him to work in wonderful ways!!
#13
Posted 11 October 2006 - 07:39 PM
That He has raised us above the demonic realm of this world and we are under his protection and grace. We should pray as if we are filled with the Holly Spirit and we have God's protection all around us.
#14
Posted 11 October 2006 - 09:36 PM
Being seated with Christ in "the heavenly realms" means that Christ has won and we are with him now and forever because his kingdom shall reign forever here in heaven and on earth. Through God's grace we have found grace. Because of his mercy he has given us grace, so we are no longer excluded but included as heirs in his kingdom. We have the authority to get rid of demons because we are alive in Christ.
#15
Posted 11 October 2006 - 11:12 PM
It means that spiritually we are seated with Him in the heavenlies. We are here pysically but have been granted through the Father the power as Sons of God there by having the same powers as the real Son. In the heavenly life we will worship God and give Him thanks for this place H e has prepared for us.
It says that His grace is full of the love and mercy that only God can give. He has given us spiritual authority over the demons of the spiritual world, not necessarly those controlling the one here who don't have faith in Jesus or know Him as Lord. They are still under the power of satan and they can cause us problems in our physical bodies,but when Jesus comes to claim His own then we will be given power even over them.
It should give us more reasons to pray and more reasons to give thanks to the Father for His mercy. It should make our prayers bolder in what we ask knowing that God wants us to have what ever we ask in the name of Christ.
#16
Posted 11 October 2006 - 11:35 PM
We have feet on this earth (Which could be why Jesus washed the disciples feet, and told them the rest was clean, only the feet needed washing) but the rest of us lives in the realm of Jesus Christ, in the new life that He gave us through His death and resurrection, in unity with Him and the Father and with our brothers and sisters in Christ. Our feet wear the shoes of the gospel of Peace, walking the earth and getting dusty. Hearts and heads are in Christ Jesus, with the mind of Christ, worshipping Him with heart, mind, soul and strength. We live in His very presence, and He is seated on the throne by His Father. Already, in every way, by accepting Him as Lord and Saviour, we have taken our stand with Him, and by the power of His Name we have all authority over every demon on this earth. We have only to ask Him how we are to proceed with anything, just as Jesus did when He was here. He did only what He saw His Father doing.
This is amazing grace towards sinners! This grace is incalculable, immeasurable. uncontainable. abundant, free, and indispensible to us for we would be dead without it! Yet it is there for the asking! Surely we must tell the world!
Our spiritual authority is complete for we have been given the Name of Jesus to use, and our Father places all things in subjection under His feet. In Him we have full dominion again, the same dominion that Adam gave away has been won back for us. It has become our birthright from the moment we were born again.
We will become watchful, because these gifts were not given us to neglect, but to use. Therefore we will seek opportunity to operate in the Spirit of Jesus, bold in our responsibility to serve those around us with our gifts, eager to demonstrate God's glory as we walk this dusty earth. Seeing that we must do as Jesus did, we will be in constant prayer that the Father show us exactly what He wants us to do. Like Him, we will retire to privacy with God to make a sure contact, and like Him we will look upon our fellow man with the greatest of love, and seek to speak truth and minister faith.
#17
Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:47 AM
This shows God's enormous grace to and for us and this grace is free for us and we need to share this with everyone.
Since our citizenship is in heaven, we are not under the limits imposed by the world, nor do we have to conform to its standards, as in Romans 12:2.
We should be praying for boldness to go out into this world, we do have the most powerful weapons in this spiritual battle; Prayer and God's Word.
Let us all go out and claim this world for God's Kingdom in boldness
#18
Posted 12 October 2006 - 01:54 AM
#19
Posted 12 October 2006 - 05:09 AM
This movie will renew your faith and even if a friend or loved one has never read the story of Esther, they will get it and get it good!
Most everyone in three different theaters were coming to the potium and saying, They were pulled in from the very start of the film and didn't even leave to go to the bathroom because they couldn't tear themselves away.
Pastor Ralph, I sure hope you don't mind me using this lesson forum here for promotion but this movie is vital for such a time as this. I haven't even seen the movie yet because it isn't released until this Friday. I have only been waiting for three years.
#20
Posted 12 October 2006 - 11:30 AM
Pastor Ralph, on Jul 23 2006, 07:30 PM, said:
We are seated with Christ in the heavenly realms means, to me, that the same way God raised is son Jesus from the grave and he ascended up to heaven, God will do the same for those that choose Christ as their savior; and we will all be together one day. This says that God's grace is sufficient for us to overcome anything that we may face here on earth. Our spirtual authority comes only from Christ, provided that we are obedient to him. This knowledge should affect our prayers and our boldness in that we have the right to claim the promises of our savior, and we should anticipate that our prayers will be answered according to Gods will, because he knows what is best for us as his children.

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