Q4. Faith
#2
Posted 18 October 2006 - 06:36 AM
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
The fundamental fact of existence is that this trust in God, this faith, is the firm foundation under everything that makes life worth living. It's our handle on what we can't see. The act of faith is what distinguished our ancestors, set them above the crowd.
Faith is our assurance that God is who He says that He is, according to His written and spoken Word. The written Word of God is confirmation of our faith, like a title or a deed to fact, of all the things that we hope for, even though we do not see the reality, because our perception has not yet revealed this to our senses, but only to our heart, mind, body and soul.
Can we take credit for having it? Yes and no.
Every human is given a measure of faith. Every being that is human that has ever lived or ever will live upon this earth has been given, by God, an instilled measure of faith.
Romans 12:3
For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according, as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Since faith is also a fruit of the spirit, we know that this is a gift from God. But our growth in faith is I believe, an effect of our obedience to search the scriptures. We have to be faith... full.
Full of faith to seek His Word daily which builds our faith. Our faith is not in the wisdom of men but in the power of God. We walk by faith and not by sight. We do this because we are obedient to follow the spirit, which is an evidence not seen with our perception, but found through our hope and trust in the provider of our faith. We attain fullness of faith by staying continually full in His Word.
This way of faith is very different from the way of law, which says, “It is through obeying the law that a person has life.” We are all children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. It is through our faith that we are saved by His grace. We are all baptized in one Lord by One Faith. This will continue until we all come to such unity in our faith and knowledge of God’s Son that we will be mature in the Lord, measuring up to the full and complete standard of Christ.
Faith is the confidence that what we hope for will actually happen; it gives us assurance about things we cannot see. We must hold fast to our faith with out wavering, because this is our profession as believers in Christ Jesus and the Hope of His Glory in us.
Can we be condemned for lacking it?
The lack of faith does not take us to salvation. We must have faith. Salvation comes by faith through Christ Jesus and there is no other way to Salvation but through faith in Christ Jesus. We lack faith, we lack salvation. We lack salvation, we die with out His grace.
People are condemned not for what they don't know, but for what they do with what they do know.
Those who know God's written Word, and His law will be judged by them. Those who have never seen a Bible, like perhaps the lost tribes , or tribes or bands of folks living in secluded villages in remote areas, still know right from wrong, and they will be judged because they violate those standards in their own conscience. God’s law is written in them.
Romans 2:14-16 (King James Version)
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel..
Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. And this is the message I proclaim—that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone’s secret life. NLT
But for those who already believe and are saved, there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. The righteousness of the law is fulfilled in me, because I walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Ecclesiastes 3:11
He has made everything beautiful in its time. Also He has put eternity in their hearts, except that no one can find out the work that God does from beginning to end.
God has “planted eternity in the human heart”. This means that we will never be completely satisfied with earthly pleasures no matter what we pursue and no matter who we are.
We are created in His image and we have a spiritual thirst, we have eternal values and nothing but our eternal God can truly satisfy us. God has created in us, a restless yearning for the kind of perfect world that can only be found in His perfect rule. He has given us a glimpse of the perfection of His creation, here on earth. But it is only a glimpse because we can not see into the future or comprehend everything. We must trust Him now and do His work and His will upon the earth, just as it is done in heaven.
Define "faith" in terms a 10-year-old could understand.
When you walk over to turn on a light to bring light to a dark room, as you flip that switch, you are showing faith that the very act of your finger, moving that switch to on, that the light will indeed come on and lighten the room. This is such a simple example of faith that you may have never recognized your faith before.
When you get up in the morning and you go into the kitchen to open the refrigerator to find food, you are showing a measure of faith in your parents that they have provided food and that food will be there when you open the refrigerator.
“Talk about being full... in faith”
#3
Posted 21 October 2006 - 06:34 PM
Afterwards, I hesitantly asked them what caused them to change their minds about Jesus, they responded 'You did'. Apparently the very fact that I continued in ministry in the area where my friend was killed, despite it being obvious my heart was close to breaking, and never once demanded to know which one or group had harmed my friend, instead leaving the matter in God's hands, had such an impact on these people, that they began to question just what caused me to continue, when so many others had abandonned them for far less reason.
After my friend was killed, I did struggle with my faith, questionning that I would ever get through to this group, yet despite my doubts, despite the disaster, God reached through it all and touched the hearts of the toughest of the group. It was through nothing that I could boast about, given the choice I too would have turned my back on these people, but despite my pleas God gently turned me back to serve Him in that very area, and I trusted Him enough to know that He would protect me and turn this tragedy into good. These three people are now leading some of the studies we offer, reaching those who consider themselves to be above needing God, so great is their transformation.
How would I explain 'faith' to a 10 year old, it would be with words like 'even when you see your greatest wish seemingly disappear before your eyes, leaving you with apparently no hope of ever attaining it, believe that you have it already in your hands, and when you do, you will discover something far better'
#4 Guest_Tabatha_*
Posted 21 October 2006 - 08:12 PM
The bible speaks of several different types of faith which increase from faith to faith ( Romans 1: 17 )
Saving faith-- Faith which gets you to heaven ( Ephesians 2 : 8-9 )
Fruit of Faith-- faith which gets Heaven into you ( Galatioan 5 : 22023 )
Gift of faith-- Stems from saving faith and the fruit of faith; It is the ability to believe for the miraculous ( 11 Thessalonianns 1: 3 )
This gift not only operates in healings and in miracles, but in the realm of the impossible as well
( Hebrews 11:1 ) Faith is the substance of things hoped for. the evidence of things not seen. Faith is established conviction concerning things unseen and settled expection of future reward. The Greek word substance literally means a " standing under " And was used in the technical sense of " title deed, the root idea is that standing under the claim to the propery to support it's validity.
No we can not take credit for having it Yes we can be condemned for lacking it. ( Matthew 6: 30 ) Jesus )Quoted " O ye of little faith " Telling a 10 year old about faith in words he can understand. He has been told He will be receiving a new bike when he turns 11. His Father has always kept his word and never made a promise he would not fulfill. He doesn't see the bike in the garage but he know in his heart it will happen. He believes and does not doubt his father.
#5
Posted 22 October 2006 - 02:50 AM
I think perhaps there are "degrees" or levels of faith. This was made clear to me in the story of the father who brought his demon-possessed son to Jesus, begging Him to heal the child if He could. In Mark 9:24, this man cried out "I believe; help my unbelief!" Well, the question I always wanted to ask is, do you believe or don't you? The lesson for me here was that this man believed in what he'd heard about Jesus with mental assent, an intellectual agreement with what someone else experienced and recounted to him. That is entirely different from believing in what you have come to know that you know that you know is true. That is faith of the heart, not the head. This man realized that the degree of faith he had was inadequate and he was asking for the gift of heart-faith that is willing to release everything into the hands and will of God because you know Him to be true even though you can't see, taste, touch, or hear it.
The Spirit provides faith to us, but we must choose to receive it and act on it. We can ignore, squelch, or deny the Spirit's gifts and provisions if we want. So in that sense, we can't take credit for having it because it's not something we can generate ourselves, but yet we can be condemned for lacking it because it won't grow and enlarge in us if we don't accept the gift and actively apply it in our lives. Faith strengthens and develops like a muscle being exercised. Every time you use it, especially when stressed to the limits, it grows more powerful. With the example of electricity, the source lines have been run to my home, the outlets and switches have been installed in the walls, and the power is on; but I must decide to utilize them. It's one thing to sit around believing that the power is real and quite another to actually go plug in a refrigerator and put your carton of milk in it. When you put your confidence in something enough to act on it, that is genuine, living faith. Faith leads you to trust God enough to think, speak, and act according to what He says rather than what you feel with the full expectation of seeing His promises come to pass. It's the ability to "see" beyond what you can see, and to know that you know that you know it is real and true.
#6
Posted 22 October 2006 - 10:51 PM
We cannot take credit for having what faith we have. God has given us each a measure of faith & that faith can grow. It is all God's doing in us---if we are willing.
Yes, I believe we can be condemned for the lack of faith. If we do not use the measure God has given us to believe & to accept Him, we can still be condemned to death--lacking salvation.
I think of a simple lesson as to faith--we sit down in a chair--we have faith that that chair will hold us up.
What's more, we get on a plane--we have faith that the pilots will get us to our destination.
It's us really knowing, believing & staking our lives on that which we believe is true.
#7
Posted 23 October 2006 - 02:43 AM
Faith is putting your total trust into something or someone for a result that you have not seen.
Can we take credit for having it?
No, we can't. The Bible said that God has given us all a measure of faith (Rom. 12:3).
Can we be condemned for lacking it?
Because faith has been given to us, there's no lacking of faith. Lack comes when we choose not to use it.
Define "faith" in terms a 10-year-old could understand.
Ask a 10-year old to jump into his father's arms, from a distance, and without thinking they'd make the leap. Why, because he trust daddy not to let him fall.
#8
Posted 23 October 2006 - 06:56 PM
Q4. What exactly is faith? Can we take credit for having it? Can we be condemned for lacking it? Define "faith" in terms a 10-year-old could understand.
Believing/drawing near to God. No we cannot fully take credit for it. It is the Holy Spirit moving within us and God's drawing us close. I think everyone has an idea that they have a sinful nature, I guess it's how you respond or it as all you chose to. If we say we have faith but no actions we are then dead in our faith. It's a wonderful message. I know many who claim to have the faith and love the Lord, but do nothing at church, through church or their neighborhoods,schools to further the Kingdom of God. I would ask the child if their parents loved them. Yes they would say. I would then ask "how do you know"? They would say because the do things for them (actions) feed them, care for them. I would ask the child that if they got hurt would they have faith that their parents would take care of them. Yes they hopefully would answer. I would say that after all the Lord has done for us (given us water, food, pets, parents, siblings, friends the Lord Jesus to save our sins) we should also have faith in Him. He will supply our needs, just as our parents have and in turn we are called to return His love by helping further His Kingdom by works He has planned for us. Just as mom & dad have planned for some of you to do "chores". God has planned for you to do special work amond the earth. So be alert to the Holy Spirits leading. Look for the good you can do.
#9
Posted 24 October 2006 - 12:19 AM
Everyone has a belief system, even if they firmly believe in nothing! However, only belief in Jesus is acceptable to God, and only belief in Jesus satisfies, because He is the Truth. With that belief comes love, life, light, grace, healing, strength, knowledge, wisdom and all the spiritual blessing of the heavenly places, because God our Father pours his grace into us abundantly to overflowing.
We can hardly take credit for having faith (belief) when God planted it in us in the first place. All we can take the credit for is the mis-application of that faith or belief, diversion from truth. Every man and woman has a faith built in, and even believing in nothing (like evolutionists and atheists!) can't negate the faith that is implanted in us. "We have no excuse" (Romans 1:20).
We aren't condemned for lacking faith, only for misplacing it (ie believing a lie or having faith in a lie). Pharisees put faith in their obedience to man-made law and were condemned for it. The centurion understood the authority of Jesus and was joyfully acknowledged by Jesus for perceiving what faith was all about. Jesus hadn't found such faith in all Israel. The centurion recognised who Jesus was and acted accordingly. Faith correctly focussed was powerful for the healing of his servant.
Master 10-year-old:
Faith is what you believe. If you believe in lies you'll give access to demons who'll plague you for the rest of your life. For example, if you believe that getting drunk or doing drugs will make you feel better, then you'll do that, and eventually be stuck with being drunk or drugged (and the psychosis that goes with it) most of the time. If you believe it when someone tells you that you're not worth talking to, then that lie will affect everything you do. You are worth the very blood of Jesus Himself, the living Son of God, the creator. You are worth everything that God is and has. Don't believe less than that! Don't believe negative things that are said. They are lies. You can walk in the Truth and remain free of all those lies! Believe everything that God says in His Word. Know it and believe it, because it is the truth. Not knowing it will cost you. You must know what and whom you believe. You must actively learn God's word by heart, or suffer the consequences of ignorance of the truth. That is what it is given to us for. It is our protection! Protection against what? Protection against lies, and fear, and their debilitating effects.
#11
Posted 25 October 2006 - 09:07 AM
Q4. What exactly is faith? Can we take credit for having it? Can we be condemned for lacking it? Define "faith" in terms a 10-year-old could understand.
What exactly is faith? The best way for me to describe faith is that it is somehing that you know is there. For example I have faith to know that if I put enough gas in my car it will take me to work without running out of gas. Maybe this is a silly illustration but I can't think of any other right now. The point is faith is something that you know will happen as the result of something else that has been put in place. I wouldn't say we could take credit for it , the credit comes in choosing to have it or not based on our relationship with Christ. Can we be condemned forlacking it? Yes because we have a choice to have it or not. Defing faith in terms that a 10 year old could understand. When one rides a bicycle do you know whether it will go when you get on it. You have to have faith to believe when you get on it and paddle that the bicycle will go and you will have a ride.
#12
Posted 25 October 2006 - 09:56 AM
Faith is believing in your heart that something exists that can not be seen,felt, touched or heard. Something that you know is there but you can't quite put your finger on it.
Faith is given by the Holy Spirit in your relationship with God, but you faith in your self and what you can do I believe comes from yourself and how you relate to your enviorment.
No I don't think we can be condemned for a like of faith unless we have none at all in Christ because that is where our faith must rest knowing that with the love of Christ all things are possible, Jesus said with the faiht the size of a mustard seed we can move mountains. He also said that whomsoever believes. so that requires a little bit of faith to believe that He is who He said He is. When Jesus was ask how can a rich man get into heaven He said with man it would be impossible but with God all things are possible so that is why I believe we will not be condemned,but like Paul said to each man is give a measure of faith. A place to start for the Holy Spirit of God to work and bring each one of us to Him if we repent and let Him have His way in our lives.
Praise and Glory to a Merciful Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
#13
Posted 25 October 2006 - 01:34 PM
We really shouldn't condemn a person who does not exercise their faith rather, we need to be witnesses and examples by we ourselves walking in faith. There are too many factors that might cause a person not to believe, the prime being spiritual ignorance. You can catch more bees with nector than vinegar.
Teaching a 10 year old faith would be by I myself being trustworthy. Then, as the child has trust in me, so I would talk of my faith in God. I would use the world around me, the flowers, the sky, the sea, etc., as the doings of an invisible Maker, who can by a single thought, change the world.
#14
Posted 25 October 2006 - 01:58 PM
Believing passionately in a God you can not see, while at the same time fighting relentlessly against the sinful human nature that manifests itself in your life everyday
Quotation:
Like the eye which sees everything in front of it and
never sees itself, faith is occupied with the Object upon
which it rests and pays no attention to itself at all. While
we are looking at God, we do not see ourselves--blessed
riddance. The man who has struggled to purify himself and has
had nothing but repeated failures will experience real relief
when he stops tinkering with his soul and looks away to the
perfect One.
... A. W. Tozer (1897-1963), The Pursuit of God [1948]
#15
Posted 25 October 2006 - 02:05 PM
Faith is belief in God - belief in Jesus and the salvation he has won for us. God draws us into faith - He touches our hearts. We turn to Him in belief and trust. Faith is believing in something that you know in your heart to be true but cannot be proved.
#16
Posted 25 October 2006 - 02:50 PM
We take no credit for grace but faith has to be accepted and responded to. God gets all the credit for grace and faith as they go hand in hand.
Faith is giving your life fully to Christ and believing that He is the risen Christ and your personal Lord and Savior. That He will lead and guide you in all things.
Believe that Christ died for you and has forgiven all your sins. That He arose and is ALIVE today. Trust Him to work in your life according to His plan.( because it was pre-planned)
#17
Posted 25 October 2006 - 03:13 PM
For us believers we have our complete trust in Jesus Christ . Many hestate to witness about their faith in Christ because they do not feel the change in their lives has been spectacular enough . But we qualify as a witness for Jesus because of what He has done for us , not because of what we have done for Him. Christ demonstrated His great Love by setting us free from our sins by shedding His blood , quaranteeing us a place in His Kingdom, and making us priests to administer God's Love to others .
We are to tell others what God Has done for us in order for them to know God's Love in us .
#18
Posted 25 October 2006 - 04:45 PM
Q4. What exactly is faith? Can we take credit for having it? Can we be condemned for lacking it? Define "faith" in terms a 10-year-old could understand.
Faith is in general the persuasion of the mind that a certain statement is true. Its primary idea is trust. A thing is true, and therefore worthy of trust. It admits of many degrees up to full assurance...
(from Eastons Bible dictionary).
I don't think we can take credit for having it or be condemned for lacking in it.
We have faith in gravity. We believe that we will be firmly rooted to the earth and not go shooting up out of the earth's atmosphere.
John.
#19
Posted 26 October 2006 - 02:12 AM
Q4. What exactly is faith? Can we take credit for having it? Can we be condemned for lacking it? Define "faith" in terms a 10-year-old could understand.
Faith is the act of our own will to agree and accept God’s favor in Christ for rescuing us from our spiritual dead because of our trespasses and sins, and for making us alive and being a new creation for doing good works.
No, we cannot take credit for having it, because it is the gift of God. Yes, we can be condemned for lacking it, because it is the only way to have His favor
Faith is that you accept and say thank you for the gift from God. The God’s gift is that God through the dead of Christ on cross has redeemed your sins making you go to hell, and make you go to heaven
#20
Posted 26 October 2006 - 03:33 PM
The child in me delights with 'peek-a-boo.' I know you are here, God, and I am so happy and excited when I experience your presence.

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