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Q3. Substitutionary Atonement

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 14 February 2003 - 06:14 AM

Q3. Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call "the substitutionary atonement." In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins? Put it in your own words.
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Post icon  Posted 15 March 2003 - 01:46 PM

<_< Our sins were taken into the body of Christ which became a substitute for our own sinful body. Just as God determined sin affected all the world because of the sin of one man; so salvation came into the whole world because of the sacrifice of one man's life willingly given for all. We receive Jesus' righteousness just as we received Adam's sin.
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Posted 16 March 2003 - 11:44 PM

The servant acts as a substitute to bear our sins because he took our sins that we "should" have paid for ourselves into His own precious sinless body, spilling His own blood instead of ours. The substitute always "fills in" for another and this is what Jesus did for us, He took our place on calvary.
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Post icon  Posted 18 March 2003 - 12:00 PM

The servant bore our sins and gave his life as a ransom for them high upon that cross with those nail scared hands and thorn scared brow, he suffered and bled as a punishement for all our sins so that we might be forgiven for them and he rose again so that all we have to do is ask and it will be given(forgiveness for the atonement for our sins) Jesus gave his life for me and for all. :)
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Posted 18 March 2003 - 12:02 PM

Jesus was a substitute for me because for each of the curses I have (sin, sickness etc.) he took those on for me. For everything I have ever done, ,he has paid the price. Not only did he accept these for me so that I did not have to pay the price, he went down into hell for me.

He took on the punishment I would have had so that I could be part of the family and enter and abide in his kingdom. Through one man, Adam, sin was introduced and through one man, Jesus, sin no longer had it's hold (we won!). God is a GOOD God!!!
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Posted 18 March 2003 - 12:45 PM

Jesus was the Lamb of the OT. Jesus is God's only Begatten Son, and Our Heavenly Father crucified Him in our place. :lol:
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Post icon  Posted 18 March 2003 - 03:37 PM

I'll share with you a dream I had some years ago, when I had been a Christian just a few weeks, and was struggling with why Jesus should die for me. My dream was that I was awaiting trial in a courtroom - I knew that unlike a normal courtroom I would not be allowed to speak. I was totally alone, no-one to speak up for me, and I was terrified, trembling sweating . My name was called and I slowly rose to my feet and shuffled towards the steps leading up to the prisoners dock. As I reached the bottom step, the person I knew as Jesus took my hand and led me up the steps. He was so big. As I stood there , I saw the Judge then Jesus stood in front of me to shield me . The judge looked up, stared straight into the face of Jesus and said This man has already been tried and paid the penalty - the judgement is Not Guilty. Jesus swept me up in his arms and ran down the steps with me, he was so happy, and so was I and I awoke feeling overwhelmed by his love and knowing that he really had paid the price for me.
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Post icon  Posted 18 March 2003 - 06:40 PM

Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call “the substitutionary atonement”. In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins?

Until Jesus, man had no way for complete reconciliation with God. God provided the ancients with a way through animal sacrifices, to become aware of the high cost of sin, and a method of partial atonement. The sacrificial Lamb was yet to come who would provide an acceptable and worthy sacrificial substitute for ALL mankind……a once and for all time sacrifice that could absolutely redeem us.

Jesus accepted into and upon Himself all the dirty ugliness of mankind’s sin; all the disobedience and rebelliousness of a mankind gone far astray. It was as if Jesus became the repository for it all, and completely accepted His mission to take all of it to the cross, there to die as a sacrificial Lamb for every one of us.

The enormity of His act of sacrifice for me, brings me to my knees in humble adoration for this unbelievable gift. It should have been ME up there on that cross.

Praise be to God, who loved us enough to provide His own Lamb as an acceptable and complete sacrifice for all of us.

Love in our Lord...................Heather
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Posted 18 March 2003 - 09:03 PM

Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call "the substitutionary atonement." In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins? Put it in your own words.

While reading this question, I was reminded of the fact, that Jesus was both "Shepherd & Sheep" I think I understand what the Pastor is asking...How was the act of the cross, a substitute, for the sacrifice's offered in the past. I remember a study we did in my Sunday school class years ago on sheep, how they are so timid, so easily led....how even when the shepherds led them to water, they would not drink from a bubbling brook. In fact they would die first. The shepherd would have to "scoop" the water out, into a container of some sort first, before they would drink. Our precious Saviour became like one of these little sheep for you & I. "Like a lamb, being led to the slaughter, He opened not His mouth" He, the creator of all things, allowed Himself to be reviled, & hated, by those He came to lay down His life for...He allowed the sin's of all man-kind, to be transferred, unto Himself. I've heard preachers talk of how, when He hung upon the cross, that all the sin's, of every man, woman, & child, to ever live, pressed upon Him! I know how I feel, when the Holy Spirit convicts me of a sin I've commited.....Its horrible! The thought of Jesus, feeling my sin's...of a life time ( and yours!) is more than I can comprehend! What a wonderful Saviour! I've wondered just how this was done....Did He actually "see" you & I?.... These are my thoughts on this subject...I may have strayed from the topic, if so, forgive me. :rolleyes: love, jaunita
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Posted 18 March 2003 - 09:39 PM

Jesus became our substitute for our sins . Jesus is the lamb of god who takes away our sins Only the blood of Jesus can wash us clean from sin.
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Posted 19 March 2003 - 01:40 AM

Pastor Ralph, on Feb 13 2003, 10:14 PM, said:

Q3. Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call "the substitutionary atonement." In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins? Put it in your own words. Exposition

I did the best that I could here in explaining in my own words"The substitutionary atonement".I thank Jesus Christ for what he did for us,"Amen".A Servant is a substitute of one who takes our place,in bearing the sins that we have committed.The Servant is with out sin or blemish.He will be punished in severity for what we have done wrong.He will do all of the suffering and taking beatings of pain for us,doing this on his own accord,agreeing and willing to take the punishment even until death.Punishment we so deserve.!!Through his suffering and pain we will be healed,and he will save many from their sins.
As I had to go back and read more it told us,"The Servant is exalted by God,and in reading this it meant by in being exalted by God,he will be resurected from the dead,lifted up to the highest place,and gave him a name above all names"Jesus Christ" our savior.!
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Post icon  Posted 19 March 2003 - 05:38 AM

The Servant took upon Himself the sins of the whole world and sacrificed Himself as an atonement for the sins that He took even though He was perfect and without blemish. In so doing, He became the intercessor of the people. His sacrifice was so great and so complete that it was no longer necessary for the people to offer any other sacrifice as an atonement for the sins that they have committed. As long as they believe in the fact that they have been saved through the Servant's sacrifice, their sins will be forgiven and this will continue until the end of time.
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Post icon  Posted 19 March 2003 - 06:13 AM

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Q3. Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call "the substitutionary atonement." In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins? Put it in your own words.


[*]Our sins- that which causes ourselves and others great sorrow and pain- are lifted from us so that we may once again be with God and follow His righteous plan.
[*]When these sins are lifted from us, it is Christ that now carries the great sorrow and pain. He is burdened with our sin and guilt. In following God's command to do this, He serves us a great blessing. A blessing of life and hope.
[*]Instead of having to suffer a real death for our own sins, Christ takes the burden of those sins from us. With out Christ, we might die for our very first sin, with no hope for tomorrow. With Christ, there is hope. We are given a chance to learn from our mistakes. We are given life to live and learn. We are given life to become the best we can be, to follow in His footsteps, to return to God's plan for us and all mankind.



"God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." (2 Corinthians 5:21)

"For you were like sheep going astray, but now you have returned to the Shepherd and Overseer of your souls." (1 Peter 2:24-25)

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Posted 19 March 2003 - 03:47 PM

The Servant acts as a substitute to bear our sins by taking our place. This is what a substitute does, take the place of another. We were the guilyt party not Jesus therefore we deserved to be punish. We have heard, "commit the crime, make the time." We did the crime but Jesus paid the price with His life. God gave His son that who believe in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. Jesus as a substitute to bear our sins committed no sin, but bore the sins of many.
Rejoice always , pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you........1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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Posted 19 March 2003 - 06:46 PM

To rebel (sin) against God and His will in my life leads to spiritual consequences of separation from Him (presently and eternal) which produces the suffering of spiritual grief and anguish (often disguised as physical and mental suffering in this life). Jesus Christ takes my (the world's) place in the suffering of the guilt and punishment; therefore mending my relationship with God and giving me the freedom to except the peace and love that Christ offers in a relationship with the Triune God, now and eternally.
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Posted 19 March 2003 - 11:13 PM

#3. Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call "the substitutionary atonement." In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins? Put it in your own words.

I actually find it quite hard to put this into words without quantifying it from scripture. Here goes . . . Every action we take in life carries consequences. And yet it’s interesting to hear how people who would normally describe themselves as complete unbelievers suddenly taking the moral high ground when they learn of any kind of injustice, especially if it has happened to them personally. You see, whether we like to admit it or not, deep inside us all there exists this conscience that alerts us between what is right and wrong. Now, we may suppress it long enough to go ahead and choose the wrong way ourselves, nevertheless, we waste little time in condemning others that make the same wrong choices. We’ve seen it time and again in the movies, where the ‘Baddies’ lose out to the ‘Good guys’ and the audience leave the cinema, satisfied that justice has been done once again. So, whilst we may be guilty of double standards, the fact is, before God we are sinners and our sin carries a debt that we are responsible for. Imagine being in your local Court house on a charge of speeding. Having been found guilty the judge sentences you to pay a fine. After passing the sentence, the judge removes his robes of authority, steps down and taking out his cheque book writes out a cheque for the full amount to pay your fine. God has made a way through the sacrifice of His son Jesus for us to go free. The debt for our sin has been paid for in full and all we have to do is accept it. A clear example of this was seen when Abraham was prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac in obedience to God. Before he could bring the knife down, God stops Abraham and provides a goat as a substitution. Can you imagine Abraham refusing God’s offer of this substitute for his son’s life! Sadly, many people hear the truth every day about God sending His son as a substitute for our sins and they still refuse to accept His Gracious offer. If I can sum it up in just one verse from Scripture “For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord” Romans 6:23. Amen :rolleyes:
May the Lord Bless and keep you always in His light and His love. Every Blessing
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Posted 19 March 2003 - 11:16 PM

Jesus Christ was a substitute for us in the sense that He took
our sins onto Himself.
He didn't just take our place in the punishment,
He took our sins as His own.
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Posted 20 March 2003 - 12:08 PM

Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call "the substitutionary atonement." In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins?

Jesus Christ said he was a servent of the Lord God who was sent to take away the sins of the world. I think Jesus was our substitute because there was no other way or any other sacrifice that could have ever made us perfect in Gods eyes other than the blood of his son. To be covered by Jesus and be seen as he is seen..How cool will that be?
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Posted 20 March 2003 - 05:21 PM

Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call "the substitutionary atonement." In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins? Put it in your own words.

Our sins seperate us from God. Before Jesus, when someone sinned, during the act of the sacrifice, they would transfer their sin to the lamb and the lamb's blood would cleanse them from the sin, restoring their relationship to God. In the same way now, Jesus, who was without sin, carried the sins of the world, our sins included, to the cross. His sacrifice cleanses us and restores our relationship with God.
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Posted 21 March 2003 - 03:50 PM

Pastor Ralph, on Feb 14 2003, 12:14 AM, said:

Q3. Isaiah 53 teaches what theologians call "the substitutionary atonement." In what sense does the Servant act as a substitute to bear our sins? Put it in your own words. Exposition

There is no question that we are guilty, now comes the question of punishment. The punishment handed down for the crime of sin against God is a death sentance and eternal separation from Him in hell. The Servant acts as the substitute to bear our sins in that He accepted our death penalty on the cross in our place. He got the punishment that we rightfully deserve. Jesus the Servant obtained the keys of the kingdom through His death and resurrection and put them into the hands of Peter and the church. Matthew 16:19, Revelation 1:18.
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