Q2. The Theft Theory
#2
Posted 25 March 2007 - 09:34 AM
I can't think of any reason they would have had in taking the body of Jesus and hiding it, they were in a state of shock at first thinking that Jesus was going to lead them against Rome but now wa dead. How would moving His body have helped them in that.
The Romans had the least of reason if there were any in that they didn't believe in Jesus many didn't even know of His ministry ar the things taught about Him in the old Testament so the had no reason to conceal His body.
The jews had none because it would have strengthened Jesus teaching aout the resurrection and they were resolved to destroy Him now further His teachings.
Joseph had none He provided the tomb so why move the body, He was a believer and was like the disciples greaving that Jesus was dead.
#3
Posted 26 March 2007 - 03:36 AM
The disciples had no motive to steal the body because they stayed hidden behind locked doors in Jerusalem afraid of the religious leaders. The disciples wouldn't have died for a faith they knew not to be true.
The Roman Soldiers were given a large sum of money of money from the chief priests to steal the body they did has they were instructed. This story was widely circulated among the Jews.
The Jews had no motive they wanted Jesus well buried.
Joseph had no motive
#4
Posted 26 March 2007 - 01:51 PM
#5
Posted 26 March 2007 - 04:26 PM
The disciples loved Him and would never want to steal His body, nor would they have any logical reason to do so. This would be true of all who loved Him. His enemies could never have guessed ahead of time that Jesus would be risen, and they would be looking at an empty tomb, so logically they too would have no motivation to steal His body. Joseph of Arimathea donated his own personal tomb for the purpose of interring Jesus' body permanently. He would not logically make this offer and then steal Jesus' body from His grave. In supposition, should any of Jesus' enemies have had fore knowledge of His rising from death, as soon as the disciples made the public statement that Jesus had indeed risen, His enemies would certainly have taken advantage of an opportunity to discredit who He claimed to be, and would have produced His body, as proof against Him, however this did not happen.
#6
Posted 26 March 2007 - 04:39 PM
There does not appear to be any reason that any of those mentioned in the question would have any motive to steal the body of Jesus. The disciples were in hiding and probably afraid of being hunted down as associates of Jesus. The Romans had absolutely no reason to take the body and neither did Joseph. The Jews especially wanted the body to remain in the tomb.
#7
Posted 26 March 2007 - 07:08 PM
We know that no one had the time to prepare for what was about to happen, The Resurrection. Even though Jesus told everyone of the resurrection, no one was truly prepared for it.
We know that the Romans wanted the problem (Jesus) to be gone, to be forgotten, over with, and so did the Jews. But the disciples were truly grieving the death of Christ.
But if we look into their hearts the Romans and Jews I am sure they did not think that stealing the body of Christ would prove anything beneficial to them. Stealing the body would only confirm what Christ was saying all along and they wanted to disprove everything that Christ stood for and make his memory disappear.
#8
Posted 26 March 2007 - 08:27 PM
The only motive anyone would have would be to 'stage' a ressurection, this could have only been the disciples including Joseph, however could they have lived such tansformed lives many of them going to a martyr's death if they had had to live their lives based on a total lie I find this totally unbelievable.
#9
Posted 27 March 2007 - 05:58 AM
For the Romans and Jews, maybe their motives to steal the body is total destruction of body of Jesus so that He will no longer be remembered by His followers, and as for the Jews, they knew the prophesy about the promised Messiah, and the redemption, maybe halfheartedly they believe but afraid that it might fullfilled, but these are just opinion, overall we as Christians believe the truth that He has risen and He conquered death, no one stole His body,
#10
Posted 27 March 2007 - 07:36 AM
The disciples were to frightened to do anything plus they wouldn't want to die for something that was false.
The Romans/Jews would have revealed the body, if they had taken it, once the Apostles started preaching about the Resurrection.
And Joseph I can't see any motive for anything apart for supplying a tomb for Christ whom he followed as a disciple.
#11
Posted 27 March 2007 - 11:19 AM
The Romans would maybe want to dispel the 'love affair' or following that many were getting from Jesus and his teaching, but to steal the body would only give the followers of Jesus more solid belief. Taking the body would be the wrong approach.
The Jews would be glad to see the death of Jesus and would not want to touch the body for fear of the reaction it would cause against them.
Joseph Had no need to steal the body . He provided a tomb for the burial of Jesus' body. He wanted to provide a safe place for the body. Noone really had a need to steal the body.
#12
Posted 27 March 2007 - 06:41 PM
MOTIVES [all of these are a stretch...
Disciples: to produce a falsehood that he had risen they bribed the guards with a lot of money, stole his body away, buried him elsewhere, replaced burial clothes with new folded ones, guards then were caught and put to death,...
Romans: to implicate & have Jesus' followers imprisoned by producing his body.
Jews: same as Romans to get rid of the Jesus' trouble makers.
Joseph of Arimathea: only to bury Jesus in his 'proper' place.
#13
Posted 28 March 2007 - 02:02 PM
#14
Posted 28 March 2007 - 08:52 PM
#15
Posted 29 March 2007 - 02:38 AM
If the disciples had taked Jesus' body it would have been to make people believe that He had been resurrected
The Romans and or the Jews would have done it to implicate Jesus' followers of stealing the body and have them arrested or put to death
Joseph of Armithea maight have taken the body to bury elsewhere more private where there would not have been all the commotion.
However, none of these motives makes alot of sense. Jesus' resurrection was real and that in itself caused alot of commotion! Praise God He is still stirring things up today also!
#17
Posted 30 March 2007 - 03:51 AM
#19
Posted 02 April 2007 - 11:15 AM
#20
Posted 03 April 2007 - 12:24 AM
The disciples-They were in hiding, discouraged and disheartened.
Their pyschological state is proof that they couldn't haven taken the body.
Despite all of Christ's teachings to the contrary, His followers really didn't expect Him
to rise from the dead.
The Romans-Supposedly Jesus had been just another Jewish criminal.
I doubt if any of the Roman soldiers even knew of the prophecies concerning
Jesus rising from the dead. Besides there were Roman guards posted at the tomb
to prevent Jesus' followers from taking the body, so why would they steal it themselves?
The Jews-The crucifixion and burial occured around Passover time. I doubt any devout
Jew would risk touching the dead body of Jesus. Doing so would have meant being
declared "unclean" and not being able to partake of the Passover meal.
Joseph of Arimathea- He has the least motive of the four groups. Joseph willingly
gave up his tomb so Jesus would have a place to buried, so why would he want to
steal the body?

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