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Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 06:51 PM
QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Apr 14 2007, 09:46 PM) 
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
Not only is Jesus the exact representation of God, but He is God Himself -- the very God who spoke in Old testament times He is eternal; He worked with the Father in creating the world ( John 1: 3; Colossians 1 : 16 ) He is the full revelation of God . You can have no clearer view of God than by looking at Christ. Jesus Christ is the complete expression of God in a Human BodyThe Son is the radiance of God's Glory, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in Heaven. ( 1: 3 ) ( The key verse )
( Col0ssians 1: 15) This is one of the strongest statements about the devine nature of Christ found anywhere in the bible. Jesus is not only equal to God ( Philippians 2:6 ) He is God ( John 10:30, 38;12:45 14:1-11 ) ; as the image of the invisible God, He is the exact representation of God. He not only reflects God, but He reveals God to us ( John 1: 18; 14:9 ); as the firstborn prince in a King's household. He came from , not from the dust of the earth ( 1 Corinthians 15:47 ) and He is Lord of all ,He is completely Holy And He has authority to judge the world. Therefore, Christ is supreme over all creation, including the spirit world. We, the believers, must believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, That Jesus is God. We must oppose those who say that Jesus was merely a prophet or a good teacher
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 09:39 PM
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
"The Son is seated at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven", "the Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation." He does God's will by "sustaining all things by his powerful word." Colossians 1:17 also tells us: "He is created before all things, and in him all things hold together."
"The Son is seated at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven", "the Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation." He does God's will by "sustaining all things by his powerful word." Colossians 1:17 also tells us: "He is created before all things, and in him all things hold together."
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Posted 28 April 2007 - 10:13 PM
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
Everthing about the author's discription describes Him as divine. I love that Jesus is not merely an image or reflection of God but the "exact representation of His being" Being God himself, of couse, shown else where in scripture.
I am having a hard time answering the second half of the question. Maybe it's just to simple. "providing purification for sin"
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Your scripture reference to Col. 1:15 ( and following verses) is an exellent one. Thanks for that.
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Everthing about the author's discription describes Him as divine. I love that Jesus is not merely an image or reflection of God but the "exact representation of His being" Being God himself, of couse, shown else where in scripture.
I am having a hard time answering the second half of the question. Maybe it's just to simple. "providing purification for sin"
Tabatha,
Your scripture reference to Col. 1:15 ( and following verses) is an exellent one. Thanks for that.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 01:18 AM
Here is one of the main reasons I like this type of study, to break down , scripture by scripture, what the scripture is saying. For instance:
John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. Interesting notation is that this author claims these words. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, ‘by whom also He made the worlds’. . Yet another declaration that Jesus, the Light of The World, was there when the world was made.. John 8:12 ¶ Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. God said, “Let there be light” and there was light. I always felt that the translators should have capitalized the Light that came forth. For He is: The Light of the world.
Interesting, something else I picked up on in this scripture, according to the author (whom ever) that it wasn't God who purged our sin, it was Jesus, God in the flesh of The Son who did this. In verse three: ‘when he had by himself purged our sins’ : by himself..... being the key word to this revelation.
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What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? “brightness of His glory” meaning the radiance that comes from God‘s essential and eternal glory. “express image of His person” meaning His reflected brightness, and exact representation, exact character being Holy, an exact duplication, “upholding (bearing or caring His authority all the way from beginning to end) all things by the word of His power ( the Son not only created the universe by His powerful word but also maintains and directs it’s course because the laws of nature, are His laws operating at His command. When He had by himself purged our sins, He cleansed and purified us through the glory of redemption which is far greater than the glory of creation itself. “He sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:” Jesus has sat down as the High Priest, un-like the levitical priests whose work was never finished.
Not only is Jesus the exact likeness of God, He is re-presenting His image in exact duplication of what we have never seen in the invisible, had become visible in the flesh. God Himself became manifest. The full revelation of God the Father, in an image of God The Son. The complete expression of God in a human body.
What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses? Re- present, God on earth for all eternity to witness. Those that saw Him and carried His word forward in the scriptures and text, letters and such, which we now, hold in our hands. The Word. They have all testified of Christ Jesus and the work He came to do. To destroy the works of the devil and to re-unite us back to God.
John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. Interesting notation is that this author claims these words. Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, ‘by whom also He made the worlds’. . Yet another declaration that Jesus, the Light of The World, was there when the world was made.. John 8:12 ¶ Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. God said, “Let there be light” and there was light. I always felt that the translators should have capitalized the Light that came forth. For He is: The Light of the world.
Interesting, something else I picked up on in this scripture, according to the author (whom ever) that it wasn't God who purged our sin, it was Jesus, God in the flesh of The Son who did this. In verse three: ‘when he had by himself purged our sins’ : by himself..... being the key word to this revelation.
Back to the study questions!
What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? “brightness of His glory” meaning the radiance that comes from God‘s essential and eternal glory. “express image of His person” meaning His reflected brightness, and exact representation, exact character being Holy, an exact duplication, “upholding (bearing or caring His authority all the way from beginning to end) all things by the word of His power ( the Son not only created the universe by His powerful word but also maintains and directs it’s course because the laws of nature, are His laws operating at His command. When He had by himself purged our sins, He cleansed and purified us through the glory of redemption which is far greater than the glory of creation itself. “He sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:” Jesus has sat down as the High Priest, un-like the levitical priests whose work was never finished.
Not only is Jesus the exact likeness of God, He is re-presenting His image in exact duplication of what we have never seen in the invisible, had become visible in the flesh. God Himself became manifest. The full revelation of God the Father, in an image of God The Son. The complete expression of God in a human body.
What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses? Re- present, God on earth for all eternity to witness. Those that saw Him and carried His word forward in the scriptures and text, letters and such, which we now, hold in our hands. The Word. They have all testified of Christ Jesus and the work He came to do. To destroy the works of the devil and to re-unite us back to God.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 11:48 AM
The Father/Son relationship makes Jesus divine. He is of the Father's essence, even for the period when He inhabited the earth in human flesh.
The angels are to worship Him and He is the express glory of God which no human can touch. He has a throne together with God, the scepter of righteousness, and is annointed with the oil of gladness more than any other. all this is because He is the Son, not a messenger, angel or prophet ony, but the Son.
Ths Son has a throne and sceptre, so He is the ruler of a Kingdom. He was involved at creation and the heavens are the work of His hands. Effectively He is the voice - or Word - of God. Jesus has still the role of maintenance until the appointed time for the creation to perish - to fold up like a cloak. God has so honoured Him because He loves righteousness and hated lawlessness. In other words He thinks exactly like the Father.
The angels are to worship Him and He is the express glory of God which no human can touch. He has a throne together with God, the scepter of righteousness, and is annointed with the oil of gladness more than any other. all this is because He is the Son, not a messenger, angel or prophet ony, but the Son.
Ths Son has a throne and sceptre, so He is the ruler of a Kingdom. He was involved at creation and the heavens are the work of His hands. Effectively He is the voice - or Word - of God. Jesus has still the role of maintenance until the appointed time for the creation to perish - to fold up like a cloak. God has so honoured Him because He loves righteousness and hated lawlessness. In other words He thinks exactly like the Father.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 12:46 PM
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
He is an exact representation of the Father, He must be devine to be exact. He is everything that the Father is and is empowered with everything that the Father has which means that He is devine within Himself.
He caused all things to come to be by His spoken word. He is the power that God uses to acomplish His will. His Spirit is the leader of us and give us the faith and strength to live in the Son and seek to please Him. He is our teacher of truth without Him nothing was made that was made accordingg to John.
He is an exact representation of the Father, He must be devine to be exact. He is everything that the Father is and is empowered with everything that the Father has which means that He is devine within Himself.
He caused all things to come to be by His spoken word. He is the power that God uses to acomplish His will. His Spirit is the leader of us and give us the faith and strength to live in the Son and seek to please Him. He is our teacher of truth without Him nothing was made that was made accordingg to John.
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 01:08 PM
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
He has taken on the role of the Son Of Man and in that role there is a Son-ship. He has then made us joint heirs with Him and in that we too are seated at the His right hand.
He has also made us to be in the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins and now the Father can look at us through His Son and we too are made in His likeness and in us with humble hearts working in His image and righteousness,we are purged of sin, becoming pure before our Heavenly Father.
In this role He has become our Advocate, interceding for us always and remembering what it is to live as a nature man, the power of sin, the work of the enemy, and how grace is needed, mercy required so that at such a time sin is less and righteousness is ruling.
In this role as well He keeps us in covenant with the Father a Blood covenant and this is the only way to the Father is through the Blood of Jesus. We can speak His name, but without the recognition of the cross and the blood that was shed, His name is only a name and there is no divinity, there is no power and there is no covenant connection which links us to His Father as family or joint- heirs.
We must see Him in this Son ship role in order to receive eternal life. Without this acknowledgement there is no remission of sin, there will be no seat available in heaven and a with staying of His magnificent hand in our lives.
He has taken on the role of the Son Of Man and in that role there is a Son-ship. He has then made us joint heirs with Him and in that we too are seated at the His right hand.
He has also made us to be in the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins and now the Father can look at us through His Son and we too are made in His likeness and in us with humble hearts working in His image and righteousness,we are purged of sin, becoming pure before our Heavenly Father.
In this role He has become our Advocate, interceding for us always and remembering what it is to live as a nature man, the power of sin, the work of the enemy, and how grace is needed, mercy required so that at such a time sin is less and righteousness is ruling.
In this role as well He keeps us in covenant with the Father a Blood covenant and this is the only way to the Father is through the Blood of Jesus. We can speak His name, but without the recognition of the cross and the blood that was shed, His name is only a name and there is no divinity, there is no power and there is no covenant connection which links us to His Father as family or joint- heirs.
We must see Him in this Son ship role in order to receive eternal life. Without this acknowledgement there is no remission of sin, there will be no seat available in heaven and a with staying of His magnificent hand in our lives.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 09:47 AM
QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Apr 14 2007, 09:46 PM)
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
The description given is the exact description of God. Jesus is the exact representation of God, therefore He is God and therefore is divine.
Hebrews declares the Son as the one through whom He made the universe. The Son Jesus, has the heart of the Father - not my will but Thine be done. He spoke the universe into existence, and the Son, by His word, sustains or keeps is together.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:50 AM
I am a new christian so some of these questions are hard for me and if my answers are off please email me and i would love the help. The authors description makes me think Jesus is divine because Jesus is described as an exact replica of God. Gods word became flesh. I believe God took his holy word (like an author may do a character) and put in some human dna without flaws took some of His glory made a man without sin and sent him to us.Jesus is Gods word. I also believe that his role is to keep us in line and love us. To pull us all out of our sinful ways and to Gods glory
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 11:55 AM
QUOTE(Tabatha @ Apr 28 2007, 10:51 AM)
Not only is Jesus the exact representation of God, but He is God Himself -- the very God who spoke in Old testament times He is eternal; He worked with the Father in creating the world ( John 1: 3; Colossians 1 : 16 ) He is the full revelation of God . You can have no clearer view of God than by looking at Christ. Jesus Christ is the complete expression of God in a Human Body
The Son is the radiance of God's Glory, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in Heaven. ( 1: 3 ) ( The key verse )
( Col0ssians 1: 15) This is one of the strongest statements about the devine nature of Christ found anywhere in the bible. Jesus is not only equal to God ( Philippians 2:6 ) He is God ( John 10:30, 38;12:45 14:1-11 ) ; as the image of the invisible God, He is the exact representation of God. He not only reflects God, but He reveals God to us ( John 1: 18; 14:9 ); as the firstborn prince in a King's household. He came from , not from the dust of the earth ( 1 Corinthians 15:47 ) and He is Lord of all ,He is completely Holy And He has authority to judge the world. Therefore, Christ is supreme over all creation, including the spirit world. We, the believers, must believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, That Jesus is God. We must oppose those who say that Jesus was merely a prophet or a good teacher
The Son is the radiance of God's Glory, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in Heaven. ( 1: 3 ) ( The key verse )
( Col0ssians 1: 15) This is one of the strongest statements about the devine nature of Christ found anywhere in the bible. Jesus is not only equal to God ( Philippians 2:6 ) He is God ( John 10:30, 38;12:45 14:1-11 ) ; as the image of the invisible God, He is the exact representation of God. He not only reflects God, but He reveals God to us ( John 1: 18; 14:9 ); as the firstborn prince in a King's household. He came from , not from the dust of the earth ( 1 Corinthians 15:47 ) and He is Lord of all ,He is completely Holy And He has authority to judge the world. Therefore, Christ is supreme over all creation, including the spirit world. We, the believers, must believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, That Jesus is God. We must oppose those who say that Jesus was merely a prophet or a good teacher
Tabatha,
Great post!
I think it is enough to say that He is divine. Because He is divine by His very nature and character, He cannot pass Himself off as something else. He cannot hide His divinity any more than I can pass myself off as a giraffe, or a skunk, or even God Himself. I may be enough to say that He is because He Is and cannot be anything else.
The second part of the question also hit right on in your post. The Son has been established as divine, one with the Father. Therefore, He must do the Father's will. They are One. There will is One. There can be no conflict between them.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 12:59 PM
1 In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, 2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe. 3 The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. 4 So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.
The author's description of the Son states that Jesus is a carbon copy, an exact duplicate, cannot tell the two apart, it was God's only way to get through to us that this is who He is. He is a god who loves us and demands great things from us, if great things is obedience to Him. God's glory is not His power but His love for His creation, and His righteousness. Jesus, without sin, came in God's glory (His love for us) not to condem a sinful world but to bring it to obedience through salvation by the power of His word (You are forgiven).
I believe God saw a glimmer of hope for His creation when He spotted Noah, because just before that He expressed regret for His creation. That glimmer of hope kept God from completely destroying the word the first time. God's distaste for sin and His love for us must be an uncomfortable combination, so much so that He couldn't watch as the sins of the world were piled upon Jesus at the cross. Jesus' role in order to sustain all things by the power of "You are forgiven" was and is our last chance. What are we to do with it??
The author's description of the Son states that Jesus is a carbon copy, an exact duplicate, cannot tell the two apart, it was God's only way to get through to us that this is who He is. He is a god who loves us and demands great things from us, if great things is obedience to Him. God's glory is not His power but His love for His creation, and His righteousness. Jesus, without sin, came in God's glory (His love for us) not to condem a sinful world but to bring it to obedience through salvation by the power of His word (You are forgiven).
I believe God saw a glimmer of hope for His creation when He spotted Noah, because just before that He expressed regret for His creation. That glimmer of hope kept God from completely destroying the word the first time. God's distaste for sin and His love for us must be an uncomfortable combination, so much so that He couldn't watch as the sins of the world were piled upon Jesus at the cross. Jesus' role in order to sustain all things by the power of "You are forgiven" was and is our last chance. What are we to do with it??
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 01:22 PM
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
I believe the Son to be divine because:
· The author of Hebrews declares the Son as the one "through whom he made the universe."
I am the LORD; that is my name!
I will not give my glory to another
or my praise to idols." (Isaiah 42:8)
· Yet God can bestow it and God's glory is upon his Son. The Apostle John declares:
· "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14)
· Jesus was the exact representation of, that is, God's essential nature.
· The author makes it clear that the Son spoken of is the divine Son of God. With him there is no comparison.
The son is the Sustainer and Preserver of the Universe. He does this through his powerful Word. He is Co-Ruler of the Universe.
I believe the Son to be divine because:
· The author of Hebrews declares the Son as the one "through whom he made the universe."
I am the LORD; that is my name!
I will not give my glory to another
or my praise to idols." (Isaiah 42:8)
· Yet God can bestow it and God's glory is upon his Son. The Apostle John declares:
· "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." (John 1:14)
· Jesus was the exact representation of, that is, God's essential nature.
· The author makes it clear that the Son spoken of is the divine Son of God. With him there is no comparison.
The son is the Sustainer and Preserver of the Universe. He does this through his powerful Word. He is Co-Ruler of the Universe.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 02:13 PM
As "appointed heir to all things", and "the brightness of His glory", as well as "the express image of His person", the author indicates that the Son is the fullness of the Godhead bodily and is devine.
By verses one and two of the first chapter of Hebrews we learn that the father uses the Son to create and maintain the worlds (this one, the universe and the new one to come). Being treated as an heir to all things it appears that the Son is given all power and authority over everything that exists and has earned this by His passion. This is clear by His seat at the right hand of the Father, an open example by God of the trust He has in His Son.
By verses one and two of the first chapter of Hebrews we learn that the father uses the Son to create and maintain the worlds (this one, the universe and the new one to come). Being treated as an heir to all things it appears that the Son is given all power and authority over everything that exists and has earned this by His passion. This is clear by His seat at the right hand of the Father, an open example by God of the trust He has in His Son.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 02:47 PM
QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Apr 14 2007, 09:46 PM)
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
Jesus is spoken of as one who sits on the right hand of God. There has never been another to compare to this glorified position, bestowed upon Him by God the Father. He is His divine Son, appointed heir over all things; the radiance of God's glory; a mirror image of His father; co-creator and protector of God's universe through His spoken word; through the Cross. He provided our purification from sin and is now seated with His Father, on His right hand as co-ruler with God over all.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 03:17 PM
The author say that the Son not only represents God , but He is God Himself. The very God who spoke in Old Testament times. He is internal, He worked with the Father in creating the world. He is the full revelation of God. You can have no clearer view of God than by looking at Christ. Jesus Christ is the Complete expression of God in human body.
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The description of God speaking through his Son.... The Son as the radiance glory of God..... Superiority over Angels....
Sitting at the right hand of God.... worshipped by angels...firstborn..laying the foundtions of the world... never to perish...speaks of being divine.
The Son will do the Fathers will as he is the exact representation of the Father. He loves righteousness and hates wickedness. Sitting at the right hand of God..ruling with God.
Sitting at the right hand of God.... worshipped by angels...firstborn..laying the foundtions of the world... never to perish...speaks of being divine.
The Son will do the Fathers will as he is the exact representation of the Father. He loves righteousness and hates wickedness. Sitting at the right hand of God..ruling with God.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:39 PM
QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Apr 14 2007, 05:46 PM)
Q2. (Hebrews 1:2-3) What about the author's description of the Son makes you think that the Son described is himself divine? What role does the Son have in doing the Father's will according to these verses?
Hebrews 1:2-3, indicates divinity by using the descriptives: God's heir, co-creator, reflector of divinity, exact representation of God's being, sustainer of all things (holds all together), sits at the right hand (privileged position) of Majesty. Seems to me that the Son is the implementor of God, the Father's, will.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:42 PM
QUOTE(Tabatha @ Apr 28 2007, 02:51 PM)
Not only is Jesus the exact representation of God, but He is God Himself -- the very God who spoke in Old testament times He is eternal; He worked with the Father in creating the world ( John 1: 3; Colossians 1 : 16 ) He is the full revelation of God . You can have no clearer view of God than by looking at Christ. Jesus Christ is the complete expression of God in a Human Body
The Son is the radiance of God's Glory, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in Heaven. ( 1: 3 ) ( The key verse )
( Col0ssians 1: 15) This is one of the strongest statements about the devine nature of Christ found anywhere in the bible. Jesus is not only equal to God ( Philippians 2:6 ) He is God ( John 10:30, 38;12:45 14:1-11 ) ; as the image of the invisible God, He is the exact representation of God. He not only reflects God, but He reveals God to us ( John 1: 18; 14:9 ); as the firstborn prince in a King's household. He came from , not from the dust of the earth ( 1 Corinthians 15:47 ) and He is Lord of all ,He is completely Holy And He has authority to judge the world. Therefore, Christ is supreme over all creation, including the spirit world. We, the believers, must believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, That Jesus is God. We must oppose those who say that Jesus was merely a prophet or a good teacher
The Son is the radiance of God's Glory, sustaining all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in Heaven. ( 1: 3 ) ( The key verse )
( Col0ssians 1: 15) This is one of the strongest statements about the devine nature of Christ found anywhere in the bible. Jesus is not only equal to God ( Philippians 2:6 ) He is God ( John 10:30, 38;12:45 14:1-11 ) ; as the image of the invisible God, He is the exact representation of God. He not only reflects God, but He reveals God to us ( John 1: 18; 14:9 ); as the firstborn prince in a King's household. He came from , not from the dust of the earth ( 1 Corinthians 15:47 ) and He is Lord of all ,He is completely Holy And He has authority to judge the world. Therefore, Christ is supreme over all creation, including the spirit world. We, the believers, must believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, That Jesus is God. We must oppose those who say that Jesus was merely a prophet or a good teacher
Tabatha,
The Collossions verse above is a very important one to hang onto when addressed by those who question Jesus, the Christ's, divinity... along with what we're discovering in the Hebrews study.