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Q4. Forgiveness and the Lord's Supper

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 28 March 2003 - 05:44 AM

Q4. Why is it so important to forgive those who have offended us before partaking of the Lord's Supper? In what sense are the Lord's Supper and unforgiveness incompatible? (Consider Matthew 26:28; 1 Corinthians 11:27; Matthew 6:14-15; 5:23-24; James 5:16.)
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Post icon  Posted 29 March 2003 - 02:39 PM

;) The whole purpose of Jesus' death was to bring us God's forgivenss and according to Jesus' Words unless we are willng to forgive others we don't receive forgiveness.. Mark 11:25 warns that if we are praying and remember someone who has aught against we must go to them and receive forgiveness before you will be able to continue your prayers and have them answered. This does away with these people who claim they have not been able to forgive people for things they have done to them for years and years. Be quick to forgive that you may be forgiven quickly.
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Posted 31 March 2003 - 05:49 AM

Because we are told to forgive before taking The Lord's Supper. Unforgiveness and partaking in The Lord's Supper is a complete contradiction. The whole purpose in Christ shedding His blood was for the forgiveness of sins, when we drink the cup in remembrance, we must forgive those likewise who have sinned against us. If we are not willing to forgive those who have wronged us, God says He will not forgive us our sins.
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#4 User is offline   Linda Stanley

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Posted 02 April 2003 - 08:13 PM

Pastor Ralph, on Mar 27 2003, 09:44 PM, said:

Q4. Why is it so important to forgive those who have offended us before partaking of the Lord's Supper? In what sense are the Lord's Supper and unforgiveness incompatible? (Consider Matthew 26:28; 1 Corinthians 11:27; Matthew 6:14-15; 5:23-24; James 5:16.) Exposition

Before partaking of the Lords Supper we should examine ourselves.If we have "sin" we need to ask for forgiveness.We should not partake in communion in an unworthy manner.In order to be forgiven by the Father we should also forgive others who may have offended us,as well as us seeking their forgiveness also.We should always make peace as soon as possible.We should meet the specific needs before communion in prayer and confession,making ourselves worthy to receive the Holy Communion.of our Lord and Savior.
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Post icon  Posted 02 April 2003 - 09:32 PM

Why is it so important to forgive those who have offended us before partaking of the Lord's Supper? In what sense are the Lord's Supper and unforgiveness incompatible? :unsure: As I set here thinking over the question for today, I am remembering all those I've known, & or worked with while being a member of a deliverance team. The word tells us, "To give no place to the devil" When we harbor resentment & un-forgiveness, against another, we are opening the door to the enemy. God has set certain law's, into effect...."You reap what you sow"..."If you sow to the wind, you'll reap the whirl-wind" etc, I believe these "Spiritual laws" are for everyone, Saint & sinner alike. When we choose (and it is a choice!) to hold un-forgiveness in our hearts, toward anyone, it is sin. :( I have been witness, to many Christians, whom have been taken "prisoner" by satan, because of this. It stops your spiritual growth, & progress, to be sure! You are in bondage. While working with people, in this type of bondage, I remind them of the great price Jesus paid for them, & of how He cried out, on the Cross "Father forgive them, for they know not what they do" How can we...who have been forgiven so much, not forgive others? "Forgive", Jesus said, so that you may be forgiven! You don't have to feel it, just say it! I myself, try to remember that "Hurting people, hurt others", & ask for discernment for the one lashing out. Its not always easy.
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Post icon  Posted 02 April 2003 - 10:48 PM

When Jesus taught us how to pray he said to "forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors" in the Lords' Prayer. We are also told in the Bible to settle all problems with our neighbors before going to Church.

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Romans 17-21 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. (18) If it is possible as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. (19) Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord. (20) On the contrary "if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this you will heap burning coals on his head." (21) Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
and then again in Colossians 3:13 Bear with each other and forgive whatever grievances you may have  against one another. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. Finally on the cross was the famous quote of Jesus when he said to "Forgive them as they know not what they are doing."

So when we go to the Lords Table we have Jesus example, Jesus instructions, instructions from the Bible which is the inspired work from God. We must have our hearts in the right place. And stop to think about it, if we do not forgive someone for something, who is being hurt, usually not the other person, maybe children, certainly us. God knows this. He wants us to have right hearts, if we are vengeful we cannot receive His love because our hearts are hardened with vengence. We must let it go so our hearts will be in the right attitude for God to be able to work. Of course God can work miracles and can change a person's heart, but He gives us a choice. We can choose to be vengeful or forgiving. If we choose to be forgiving we then are open to Him and can accept His offer, His sacrifice for us on the cross. We are in an attitude where we can give our lives to Him in return.
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Posted 03 April 2003 - 12:38 AM

The Lord's Supper is the time of sharing of Christ's great sacrifice for our sins. We shouldn't partake of communion if we hold something against someone. We should take care of the problem before partaking. It takes a big person to go and ask for forgiveness.
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Posted 03 April 2003 - 01:06 AM

Before we can boldly go before the throne of grace we have to forgive others before taking the Lord's Supper. We are under a new covenant. Under this covenant their is forgiveness thru the the blood of Jesus. His blood was poured for many for the forgiveness of sin. How do we expect Jesus to frogive us when we do not want to forgive. We as christian have a heart of flesh, a forgiving heart. The Lord's supper is all about what Jesus did inorder for us to be forgiven.
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Post icon  Posted 03 April 2003 - 11:35 AM

Forgiving those and letting go of resentment is the right thing to do and this is what God wants us to do, we give it all to the Lord and he will help us let go of this sin and especially before we take The Lords Supper (Comunion.) If we don't forgive then how can a person expect Jesus forgiveness for their sins..
When you forgive, then you will feel a lot better and I agree whole heartedly with everyone who has replied to the question so far.
The Lord's Prayer tells us how we should be and do.
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Post icon  Posted 03 April 2003 - 01:56 PM

When we approach the Lord's table we need to be open hearted & open handed so that we may receive his love & gifts. We can't be like this if we have sin in our hearts & being unable to forgive our brothers/sisters closes a part of our heart to God. When I was in hospital four years ago there was a lady who had not taken the sacraments for years because she was unable to forgive people in the church for abusing her son. She was still a believer and a lovely praying Christian. I found out her story when I was organising for our small ward to receive the sacraments at our bedside the following Sunday. She felt she could not join us because of the unforgiveness in her heart - I said to her - Come over here and let's talk to Jesus about this, and together we prayed. We asked that Jesus showed her how to forgive, not the sin, but the perpetrators - those who had since been punished by the law. When she knew that Jesus had taken hold of her hurt, the tears just flowed - we wept together for a long time. But she had the most enormous smile on her face at the end of it all. Totally filled with Jesus joy. The following Sunday was very special - four of us sitting by my bed with the lady minister - we were all different denominations sharing the love of Jesus - and our friend who had forgiven in her heart receiving the sacraments for the first time in probably 15 years. What a celebration!!
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Posted 03 April 2003 - 02:47 PM

If we take the bread and wine without forgiving others and asking forgiveness for ourselves we dishonour God and bring condemnation on ourselves.

Jesus established the feast.
He provides the reason for the bread and the cup - His death.
He is right in the midst with us (Matthew 18:20)

Jesus poured out his blood for the forgiveness of sins for all. Jesus tells us that unless we forgive others God will not forgive us. So one cannot take the Eucharist unless we have made ourselves clean. If we do we in fact sin against the very body of Jesus.
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Posted 03 April 2003 - 04:33 PM

Why is it so important to forgive those who have offended us before partaking of the Lord's Supper? In what sense are the Lord's Supper and unforgiveness incompatible?

Because the whole meaning of the Lord's Supper hindges on FORGIVENESS. (God forgiving us for our sins..doing this in rememberance of Christ..) I think sometimes people may take the Lord's Supper without understanding completely what it means..I know I have..but no more..I have learned that I am not worthy of this gift until I learn to be more forgiving, less selfish and do it in the right spirit in which it was intended. Thank you Father and thank you for Pastor Ralph's study..I know it had made a huge difference in my life..All Glory to you Lord...
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Post icon  Posted 04 April 2003 - 12:09 AM

We celebrate the Lord's Supper to remind us that Jesus offered His life on the cross to to atone for the sins of mankind. With this in mind, it is only right that we should forgive those who have offended us before we partake of the Lord's body and blood as we celebrate the Lord's Supper. We have no right to hold a grudge against someone because we should follow Christ's example of forgiveness. If He, as a human being who was suffering under the hands of the people who captured Him, was able to forgive Peter denying Him thrice thus sending Him to His death alone, then why should we hold a grudge against others?
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Posted 04 April 2003 - 02:25 AM

For it would be unreasonable to think we could be unforgiving when Our Lord granted us forgiveness for our sins, how could we deny the forgiveness to others, when someone sins or tresspasses against you by violating scripture, they should be forgiven, no forgiveness for others means no forgiveness for us. :huh:
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Post icon  Posted 05 April 2003 - 05:26 AM

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Why is it so important to forgive those who have offended us before partaking of the Lord's Supper? In what sense are the Lord's Supper and unforgiveness incompatible?

[color="blue"]+ I would want to come to Jesus with my heart being free of animosity towards anyone. Yet, all too often I am not even aware of what is hiding within me. Which is only one reason I am blessed by the Grace of God. In 1Cor. 11:27, Paul chastizes those who were self centered, and even drunk as they took part in the Lord's supper, which seems to have been part of a meal. Paul disciplines them for their unworthyness of this most Holy Meal.[/color] :(
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Post icon  Posted 07 April 2003 - 02:06 AM

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Q4. Why is it so important to forgive those who have offended us before partaking of the Lord's Supper? In what sense are the Lord's Supper and unforgiveness incompatible? (Consider Matthew 26:28; 1 Corinthians 11:27; Matthew 6:14-15; 5:23-24; James 5:16.)
[color="gray"]The Lord's Supper is in recognition and acceptance of Christ being our Saviour. As we eat the bread and drink the wine, we are to remember that Christ died on the cross in order to save us from sin. As we accept Christ, we are forgiven.
Since Christ has paid the ultimate price so that we may be forgiven, it would be contradictory to partake of this forgiveness without forgiving others. In fact, when we do not forgive others, we suffer from pain and anger. Yet Christ died to take pain and sufferings from us. How can He save us from pain and suffering if we are not willing to let it go?[/color]

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Posted 07 April 2003 - 10:06 PM

Q4. Why is it so important to forgive those who have offended us before partaking of the Lord's Supper?

Taking part in our Lord’s supper is more than just remembering Jesus’ sacrifice on our behalf, it is also acknowledging why He gave so much for us. Jesus died that we might be forgiven for our sin. How could any of us celebrate this most precious of ceremonies and all that it pertains, if we are holding grievances or any unforgiveness towards our brother or sister. The clearest example yet is in the story Jesus told of the ‘Unmerciful Servant’ and how, after he had been let off such an enormous debt by his master, goes out and harasses a fellow servant for the repayment of a paltry sum and has the man thrown into prison when he can’t pay up (Matthew 18:25-35) In my personal experience I have found it a tremendous witness, especially among the unbelievers in my family and friends, when I have been able to forgive those who have wronged me. How? Why, do you find it so easy to forgive them? they ask. And my simple reply is ‘How can I not? When God has forgiven me for so much.

In what sense are the Lord's Supper and Unforgiveness incompatible? (Consider Matthew 26:28; 1 Corinthians 11:27; Matthew 6:14-15; 5:23-24; James 5:16.)

The entire context of Jesus sacrifice was based on forgiveness of sin. However, when Jesus was asked which was the greatest commandment, He put ‘loving your neighbour as yourself’ alongside ‘loving God with all your heart’. When I consider the shape of cross on which our Lord Jesus gave His life for us, I see the upright pole, like the doorposts that were smeared for the first Passover, creating a line by which man is reconciled to God. Then I see the cross bar, like the lintel of the Passover doorways, as a line reconciling man with one another. If we fail to forgive one another, as our Lord taught us in His prayer (Matthew 6:12) then it would be too much to even contemplate our loving Father God to forgive us. It would be a complete and utter contradiction of the significance of the cross. :rolleyes:
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Posted 09 April 2003 - 01:29 PM

[color="purple"]Giving grace is good practice for realizing how wonderful it is to receive. Giving grace is hard work and we are much more grateful to receive when we have struggled to give. [/color]B)
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Post icon  Posted 12 April 2003 - 02:22 AM

We most forgive others so the Lord can forgive us. Coming to the Lord's Super when you have grieves against someone else is a sin. So make sure you exam your heart before you take Communion
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Posted 12 April 2003 - 02:31 AM

To answer the last part of question 4-The Lord's Super shows total forgiveness. Being at odds with a person is the opposit of the meaning of the Lord's Super.
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