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Q4. Psalm 40. Humility and Faith

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 06:05 PM

Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?
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Posted 23 September 2007 - 01:49 AM

Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?

Both are necessary because God is looking for a heart that is contrite and a faith that says God is able. If either one is missing the prayer becomes ineffective.
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Post icon  Posted 28 September 2007 - 12:13 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 18 2007, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?


God does not like a haughty, proud, and arrogant spirit. Humility in our prayers is honoring God. With out faith we can not please God. When we have faith in our praying we are telling God we believe who He is and He is able to take care of our needs. With Humility we are saying He is our creator and we bow down before Him as our God.

Faith and Humility will move mountains. Like the faith of a mustard seed! Glory to our God.
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Posted 30 September 2007 - 06:49 AM

1) First, we need to define what does humility means - "the quality or condition of being humble; modest opinion or estimate of one's own importance, rank, etc. " We need to humble our heart before God and acknowledge that God is the one that provide and guide as in our work of life. God does not want to see us having a prideful heart and have a wrong attitude towards prayer. Thus, I believe we need to examine ourself first and also need to have the strong faith in God in prayers.

2) Without faith, we will be able to please God. We will also begin to get discouraged and will have dark clouds flying around of mind (doubts). We need faith in our prayer because we need to Him that he is our savior and have given us eternity life in Heaven. On the other hand, having humility is showing that we acknowledge that we are God's servant and are willing to humble our heart and bow down before him to serve him. Therefore, I believe we need to have both humility and faith in our prayers in order to be successful.

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 10:47 AM

In this verse David is not glorifying himself by expressing his humility, I'm sure we've all fallen into the trap of bragging about our 'humility' by virtually waving placards declaring how unworthy we are...this is not the type of humility God requires; He is instead requiring us to acknowledge that without God in our lives we could achieve nothing, yet despite our own inability, God would have us in His presence, He seeks a relationship with us. Our faith is exhibited by our trust that God will not abandon us, no matter what we do...it is we humans who turn from God, because we cannot tolerate our own fallibility before God. Nor does He condemn us when we fall short of our own expectations, such is His love for us.
When we are too focussed on 'humility' we are in danger of worshipping our inability, it is self worship and can only lead to separation from God. To not acknowledge our own faults as the reason why we require God to lift us once more from the pit that we've made for ourselves, is to claim that we don't need to change our behaviour, we can continue in our transgressions. This thinking stems from a misinterpretation of repentance...I hear it often from those who've just participated in confession...'it's okay now, I'm right with God' at the same time grabbing the keys to go to the casino, or beginning to drink until they reach the stage of abusing their loved ones from their drunkenness.
This is not repenting...this is displaying an intent to continue sinning, in the mistaken belief that you don't have to strive to do what is right, that it is okay to remain doing wrong...because God will hear our offhand 'sorry' and forgive us. Repentance should be a turning away from what is wrong, acknowledging where our fault is and striving not to repeat it...not continuing to live in our sinful ways

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 11:17 AM

True faith requires that self be set aside and one’s total dependence be placed in God and Him alone. This can only happen when one is humble in heart, mind and spirit. If either humility or faith is missing then one is trying to operate by their own strength, be the god of their own life and that would be a formula for disaster.
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 09:18 PM

[quote name='Pastor Ralph' date='Aug 18 2007, 02:05 PM' post='28556']
Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?
BECAUSE WE FIRST HAVE TO HUMBLE OURSELVES TO THE LORD ..THEN WE HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT GOD WILL WORKOUT EVERYTHING FOR THE GOOD WHO LOVES HIM..WE LIVE BY FAITH AND NOT BY SIGHT

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 02:45 AM

Humility is needed to not think of ourselves too highly, to admit our weakness & need of God.
Faith is needed to show belief that God can do what He said He would do. If humility is missing, then a prideful person is trying to ask God for help. If faith is missing, you won't believe it will help to call on God & you won't be sure He'll act in your behalf for your greatest good.

I am nothing without God and I know He is working His will in & though me!
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:22 AM

(Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? Humility keeps us reminded that we can do nothing to redeem ourselves, that we are nothing without God, we are but mere dust - it is his breath that makes us anything and we are His.

What happens when one of these qualities is missing? You cannot have faith and cannot therefore be faithful if you are not humble. The two conditions are joined in union - and what God brings together, no man can put under.


Peace be unto you,

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Post icon  Posted 02 October 2007 - 11:14 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 18 2007, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?

I don't like humility but I also know without humility and faith I would never learn or realize that I would just be stuck in my sin.
In His holy and peaceful hands I remain until we meet again,

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 07:36 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 18 2007, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?


1. We should go to God with a sincere heart and by being humble shows that we are serious about our request. Showing humility and having faith go together when approaching God.

2. When one is missing, our prayer does not appear effective.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 12:09 PM

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Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary?




What happens when one of these qualities is missing?
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 02:58 PM

We approach God in faith because He rewards those who diligently seek Him. At the same time we must approach Him humbly as He inhabits His holy mountain with those who have a humble spirit. Simply put, if we believe who He is then we must submit ourselves totally in fear and reverence.
Faith without works is dead. Humility and faith are companion manifestations. Without one, we really don't have the other.
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 09:23 PM


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Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary?

We know we are poor and needy but yet can call on God in confidence. He has promised to hear our cry as we need help.




What happens when one of these qualities is missing?

We know we are nothing without God and we must totally turn our lives to God and His will in order to have faith in His promises.
One without the other is meaningless.
What a blessing to know God will hear our cry and answer our pleas as we strive to serve Him. biggrin.gif










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Posted 04 October 2007 - 06:11 AM

As soon as we stop being humble is when we start trying to do things in our own strength and thinking we can go it alone, this is when we stumble a fall. We must remember that God made us and cares about the smallest of things. Thats where faith comes in that we believe that we are important, that every little thing is important to Him, otherwise those little things we do on our own and we miss out on the blessing of walking with God. Without humility we are not walking with God with our every little thing and without faith we do not believe he cares for all things about us. Praise to our loving Lord
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Post icon  Posted 04 October 2007 - 07:40 AM

Humility and faith are necessary because we need humility to realize we have a need that we can't fulfill ourselves and faith is necessary because we have to believe that God is willing and able to answer our need.

When humility is missing we will have an attitude we don't really need God. And without faith we don't believe God will help us.
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Post icon  Posted 04 October 2007 - 05:35 PM

When we are humble, we become like little children, trusting, and that is the kind of relationship that pleases God, when we surrender all to Him, and believe in Him; "trust and obey, for there's no other way to be happy in Jesus but to trust and obey"
together with faith, our prayer touches the very heart of God, because we have trusted Him and we also believe that He can deliver us.
whenever i pray and one of these is missing, I return from prayer feeling unfulfilled, because I know in my heart I have not been humble enough to trust and I havent believed enough to convince Him of my faith. I pray thinking that it is just a formality, that means i can do things on my own, so why do I need God then? Faith and Humility are necessary for us to be heard in His presence. tongue.gif



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Posted 04 October 2007 - 11:35 PM

Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?

17But I am poor and needy; yet the Lord thinketh upon me: thou art my help and my deliverer; make no tarrying, O my God.

They are necessary because they make your heart in the right condition to come before God. He will recieve no one that is proud and especially anyone that does not have the faith to seek Him and ask for His grace and mercy.

When it come to God I don't think that any one of these came be missing. With out faith you would not believe in God and His love for you. And with a proud attitude you would not want to believe that God provides for you.

When either one is missing you can not come to God and seek His blessings and forgiveness and might not have the desire to do so. With out faith why would you seek after God and if your are proud then He would not hear you. We all are to ccome to God with the right attitude and I think that is what David had when he was humble and praying for God's mercy.


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Post icon  Posted 05 October 2007 - 05:59 AM

Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?

Both humility and faith is required so that our prayer will not be inclined towards self-righteousness. We have to accept the fact that we are imperfect. And we must believe that despite our imperfection and flaws, God answers our prayers because he is our loving God. With the combination of faith and humility, our prayers and petitions are songs to God's ears.
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Posted 05 October 2007 - 09:43 AM

Q4. (Psalm 40:17) In this verse David combines both humility and faith in his prayer to God. Why are both humility and faith necessary? What happens when one of these qualities is missing?

Faith and humility go hand in hand and are quite inseparable from a Christian point of view- humility says “I cant” and faith says “God can” humility says “I am unable” and faith says “God is able”

Humility helps us see our need of faith in God

Humility alone would leave us in a very negative place we would see the problem but have no answer. Faith without humility can lead to presumption and pride.

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