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Q3. Sorrow and Joy and the Lord's Supper

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 28 March 2003 - 05:45 AM

Q3. Why should the words, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28) fill us with sorrow? Why should they fill us with joy?
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Post icon  Posted 29 March 2003 - 02:42 PM

:blink: The sorrow comes from the fact that our sins made it necessary for Jesus to suffer and die for us. If man had remained in his created state this would not have been necessary. But the joy comes from the fact that we receive foregiveness, salvation and the promise of eternal life because of what Jesus did.
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Posted 31 March 2003 - 05:56 AM

This should make us sorrowful for many reasons. First, Jesus is the only one who ever lived who never did anything wrong, and yet it was He who took our sins, something He did not deserve. We should also be sorrowful because we are such a sinful world that it was necessary for our redemption. But the joy comes in knowing that He loves us so much that He was willing to pay the debt for sin that we owed, and that we will stand before God in the righteousness of Jesus instead of our own filthy rags.
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Post icon  Posted 03 April 2003 - 06:42 AM

:rolleyes: Why should the words, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28) fill us with sorrow? Why should they fill us with joy?

Visualising in my mind to the moment our Lord Jesus said the verse to the disciples, inevitably it fills me with sorrow knowing that the only man without sin has to pay the price for my sin and the sin of everyone in the world. The suffering on the cross that Jesus had to go through as a result of our sinful nature adds to our repentance and our gratitude to Him.

The same will also fill us with joy because we know very well that Jesus has paid the penalty and able to redeem us from the evil one. We have the assurance of forgiveness and eternal life through Christ Jesus. The word "many" in the verse gives us more assurance that Jesus has not only redeemed the Jews but gentiles like me as well.
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Posted 03 April 2003 - 04:41 PM

Why should the words, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" fill us with sorrow? Why should they fill us with joy?

It fills me with sorrow because I think about this man/God dying for us, for me specifically..because God said " I am your creator. You were in my care before you were born." (Isaiah 44:2) It makes me sad to think of Jesus suffering a hideous death..one he didn't want..praying to God not to have to do this, but willing to go with God's will for me...because I have been in God's care since before the beginning of time.

It fills me with joy as well, knowing I have always been in God's care, knowing he loved me enough to sacrifice his beloved son..his only son..so he could have many children..me included..Thank you Lord God for what you did and thank you Jesus for what you suffered for me..
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Post icon  Posted 03 April 2003 - 10:28 PM

When I think of Jesus' blood being poured out for my sins I am sorrowful. He was perfect and sinless fully God and fully man. When I think of Him suffering on that horrific cruel Roman Cross for what I have done I am horrified and sorowful that it took that for me to be able to come into the presence of the Lord. It took the blood of the perfect sinless Lamb of God to wash my sins away. He poured out His life for me, for you after offering the glass of wine (or blood) for bethrotral. But I am joyous because I can come to the Lord's Table with my heart in the right place. I can give my life to Him in return. What Joy. I stand a chance to be at the Wedding Feast of the Lamb! WOW! :rolleyes:
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Posted 03 April 2003 - 10:41 PM

Pastor Ralph, on Mar 27 2003, 09:45 PM, said:

Q5. Why should the words, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28) fill us with sorrow? Why should they fill us with joy?

>Matthew 26:28,Jesus suffered very much when He died <for many>, the whole world.He was beaten,mocked and tortured,and nailed on the cross,sacrificed himself for the sins of all.As christians in knowing what Jesus did for us brings sorrow to us in how Jesus willingly gave his life.
The Joy to all of this suffering is "he is risen"as he said he would.Believing in His death and resurrection that through Jesus Christ our sins are forgiven and we have eternal life.In His presence is fullness of Joy.
~~~John 16:20 Most assuredly,I say to you that you will weep and lament,but the world will rejoice,and you will be sorrowful,but your sorrow will be turned into joy.
~~The sorrow itself would be transformed.In John 16:22 Jesus was telling his disciples"I will see you again,this refers to Jesus postresurrection appearances"your joy no one will take.We are transformed to life through His death.Death and resurrection brings the joy of forgiven sins that the world cannot take away.
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Post icon  Posted 03 April 2003 - 11:55 PM

It should fill us with sorrow because we have to realize the fact that a great price was necessary to pay for our sins plus the fact that Jesus, the only begotten Son of God, who was without sin, had to pay that price. However, we should also be filled with joy because our sins have been paid for by Jesus and we now have the promise and the hope that we will one day be taken up to heaven to join Jesus when he comes back.
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Posted 04 April 2003 - 02:19 AM

"This is my blood of the covenant which is poured out fo many for the forgivness of sin fill us with sorrow because Christ had to be sacrifice and the shedding of blood was necessary. On the flip side of the coin it give us joy because this was necessary for restoring mankind. What a blessing. We should show this joy by worshiping him in spirit and truth.
Rejoice always , pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you........1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
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Posted 04 April 2003 - 02:31 AM

For it is man's sin that keep's us from Our Heavenly Father, due to this He had to sacrifice His only begatten Son for us, this is both, sorrow-for man was weak, and Joyful-for without this sacrifice of the unblemished Lamb we would be condemed.
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Post icon  Posted 04 April 2003 - 02:54 AM

Why should the words, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28) fill us with sorrow? Why should they fill us with joy? The fact that someone else had to pay the price for my sin's, is shamful & fills my heart with sorrow. The further fact, that it was God's only son that took my sin's, both fills me with sorrow & joy! Joy in knowing His love for me is so great, that even in the garden of Eden, He already had a plan worked out for you & I. At the word's of Jesus "This is the Blood of my covenent..." no longer did we have to go to the priests with a living lamb, now we had the "Living Lamb" of God, Himself, willing to die for us.....to take our sin's upon Himself. :) The day I was saved, I was watching a Christian TV program, where someone (I believe a doctor) was discribing the death of Jesus on the cross, this was 23 year's ago, I will never forget how he explained the torture of the cross; I found myself on my knee's crying out to God, in sorrow.....realizing what He had done for me! No one, in my 32 years of living, had ever loved me that much....& no one has sense then! For this, truely loving sacrifice, I am joyful! :lol:
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Post icon  Posted 04 April 2003 - 05:39 AM

Matt. 26:28 fills us with sorrow because we recognize the sinful state of humanity and what God had to do to restore mankind, cover his sin, and provide him with eternal life. He gave His only begotten Son. Likewise, the words should fill us with joy because God's covenant is TRUTH. By Christ's shed blood, we have forgiveness of sins. lmc
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Post icon  Posted 04 April 2003 - 10:30 AM

This is the Blood of my covenant which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins, this causes me sorrow because Jesus suffered and died upon the cross for all of my sins, so that we may be forgiven from those sins. They should feel us with joy because Jesus forgiven us and freed us from them. He arose from the grave and lives today and tells me I am his own and we can talk to him anytime, day or night.
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Post icon  Posted 04 April 2003 - 03:05 PM

The sorrow comes from the fact that God had to go to such lengths to reach us - we were so sinful that we could not reach out to God ourselves, we were lost - there had been a covenant with the nation of Israel, and we were outsiders. Now the joy, his heart is so filled with love for us that he actually reached down and gave us the new covenant as a way back to Him, by the blood of Jesus nailed to the Cross. Praise his Name!!
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Post icon  Posted 05 April 2003 - 05:51 AM

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Why should the words, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28) fill us with sorrow? Why should they fill us with joy?

+ The sorrow comes that Jesus was asked by God to give his life's blood for my sins. Jesus could have refused, He could have called on a legion of angels to save Himself. He chose to die for me. The joy comes in verse 29, where I am assured that one day in the future I will be a participant with Him and all the saints in this Holy Supper. :)

+ The latter part of verse 29 tells us after they sung a hymn they went to the Mount of Olives. (In my scripture notes it indicates this hymn was the second half of the Hallel Psalms [Psalms 115-118] Jesus knew what lay ahead for Him
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Posted 05 April 2003 - 08:26 PM

The words " This is my blood of the covenant which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" should fill us with sorrow because Jesus had to die for the sins we should of paid for with our own blood.
At the same time these words should fill us with joy because we can know we have been forgiven of our sins through Jesus' blood sacriface.
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Post icon  Posted 07 April 2003 - 02:23 AM

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Q5. Why should the words, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28) fill us with sorrow? Why should they fill us with joy?
When I think of all the pain and suffering that Jesus went through, I am shocked with sorrow. I love Christ. It is not right that He should have to do this. I love God. Couldn't there have been another way?

Yet I am also filled with great Joy. Jesus cares for everyone. He loves us so much that He is willing to do anything to set us free from sin. He loves us so much that He takes the punishment for us. Like a big brother taking blame to protect a little sister...

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Posted 07 April 2003 - 10:14 PM

Q5. Why should the words, "This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins" (Matthew 26:28) fill us with sorrow?

There have been times when, I have pondered on Jesus’ words as He spoke to His Father “Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will but yours be done” (Luke 22:44). And I have asked God, was there really no other way? Surely, as you are almighty God, you could have found another way! Each time I’ve asked God this question I have received the same answer. If there was any other way, do you really think I would have put my precious son through all He suffered at the hands of men! And the greatest thought dawned on me. God loves YOU and ME as much as He loves His son Jesus! Now that is what I call a WOW! The inexplicable sadness in it all is that there are those who listen without hearing, who see without believing, who have tasted of the Lord Jesus and fallen away, or rejected Him. For these aren’t included in the word ‘Many’. For these, who are and remain lost, Jesus’ sacrifice was in vain.

Why should they fill us with joy?

As followers of Jesus we can rejoice in the confidence of our salvation. A salvation that was purchased at an incalculable cost. No more are we blind for we see our inheritance. No more are we deaf, for we hear our Lord’s calling like a whisper through the trees. No more are we captive to sin. Now we are captivated by the love of God. “Amazing grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wretch like me. I once was lost but now I’m found. Was blind but now I see”. Praise His Holy name. :rolleyes:
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Posted 10 April 2003 - 02:33 PM

:unsure: I am sorrowful because I pour out His blood with my sin, it's personal. If I were the only person broken by the tragic weight of sin, Jesus would still have lived a painful life and died a tragic death, just for me. :D I am joyful because the God sized hole in me is filled by the mercy that was loosed by Jesus' obedience unto death and power unto resurrection.
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Posted 11 April 2003 - 02:12 AM

:lol: This verse "This is my blood of the covenant, which is pored out for many for the forgivness of sin" means alot to me. I am sad to think I caused Christ so much pain & humulation but thrilled to think I was that precious He died for me!!
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