Q1. Titles of Lion and Root
#2
Posted 05 April 2003 - 02:03 PM
#4
Posted 06 April 2003 - 05:59 AM
= Jesus is the "Lion of Judah's tribe",the "Scepter of Judah", and the "One to whom the ruler's staff would belong". These were not to depart from Judah until it was fulfilled in David and ultimately in Christ the Messiah.
= The Lamb/Jesus is the shoot that came from the stump of Jessie, the same tribe that the Jews expected their Messiah to come from. As the "Root of David" Christ was to have all nations come to Him.
#5
Posted 06 April 2003 - 03:34 PM
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#6
Posted 06 April 2003 - 07:26 PM
[/QUOTE]In Revelation 5:5 he is called the "lion of the tribe of Judah" and "the Root of David"[QUOTE]
The first part of this quote came from Genesis 49:8-12
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Just think in the first book of the Bble is a prophecy we find fulfilled in the last book of the Bible. Thousands of years before Jesus' birth is the prophecy written that we now know is about Him. The second part of Revelation 5:5 refers to Isaiah 11:1-10
(1) A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his a branch will bear fruit. (2) The Spirit of the Lord will rest on him--the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord--(3) and he will delight in the fear of the Lord. He will not judge what he sees with his eyes, or decide what he hears with his ears; (4) but with righteousness he will judge the needy, with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth. He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth; with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked. (5) Righteousness will be his belt and faithfulness the sash around his waist. (6) The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. (7) The cow will feed with the bear, their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. (8) The infant will play near the hole of the cobra, and the young child will put his hand into the viper's nest. (9) They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea. (10) In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.
Jesus descended from the line of Judah and Jesse is the Father of David from whom Jesus descended. This is clearly prophecy fulfilled. The Isaiah prophecy sounds quite like what heaven might be like. It certainly paints a beautiful picture. Jesus has triumphed over sin and deabh. Because of His great love for us He sacrificed His life for us on that cruel, horrific Roman Cross.
Although we have been given the gift of free will to choose to love him in return or not, we are also told the consequences of choosing to not loving Him and choosing life. Starting with the Ten Commandments we are told to make God number one in our lives. Adam and Eve taught us what happens when we disobey God, we see death. Revelation teaches us the consequences of choosing death over life, death over loving God and Jesus. I for one choose life and accept the redeeming work of Jesus on the cross.
#7
Posted 06 April 2003 - 11:24 PM
#8
Posted 07 April 2003 - 01:45 PM
#9
Posted 07 April 2003 - 02:21 PM
Pastor Ralph, on Mar 29 2003, 09:19 AM, said:
I will quote from Pastor Ralph and from my bible NKJV. in this answer.
~~The Lion of the tribe of Judah,refers to Jacop's ancient prophecy over his son Judah
~~The Root of David,is a refrence to Isaiah's prophecy.They both are messianic titles for Jesus Christ>see Is. 11:1,,10)Prevailed in my bible refers to the death and resurrection of Christ on behalf of those who would be redeemed.The <victory> over sin and death was complete.
~~The Lamb was slain for our sins,and if we believe we will receive Christ Jesus as our savior in cleansing us from our sin,the vistory through Jesus Holy name.Life with Jesus forever.Amen
#10
Posted 07 April 2003 - 06:19 PM
because Christ is a descendant of Judah's tribe and the House of Jesse, the Father of King David, therefore, the "Root of David". These titles signify both his might and meekness. lmc
#11
Posted 08 April 2003 - 05:17 AM
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The tribe of Judah were leaders. The Jews believed that the Messiah would come from this tribe. Jesus is both our leader and Messiah. He is victorious over our sins.
Jesus is a decendant of David. He is the one branch of the family of David that "bears fruit". He brings us to Him so that we too might grow to bear fruit.
Jesus fulfilled these two prophesies. Just as He will fulfill the prophesy of Revelation.[/color]
#12
Posted 08 April 2003 - 10:16 AM
The Jews believed the Messiah would comeThe Jews came from the tribe of Judah and he was portrayed as "alion cub and a crouching lion"
The Root of David" is a reference to Isaiah's prophecy: Jesse is the Father of David, from these decendants the Messiah would come.
Jesus is the Messiah and he is The Lamb. Jesus was the son of God. The Lamb is a symbol for Jesus Christ, John The Baptist proclaimed as "The Lamb Of God, who takes away the sins of our world.
To me this signifies that Jesus died on the cross for my (our) sins and rose again so that we may have all is promises he has declared for me(us).
He new we couldn't make it on our own, He Cares for all of us, he won the victory over sin.
#13
Posted 08 April 2003 - 01:23 PM
Root of David- "And thy house and thy kingdom shall bv established forever, thy throne shall be established forever", God had made a covenent with David, but that kingly line was cursed, but through the virgin birth that promise was fulfilled, for Mary was a descendant of david and an uncursed link, this was the only way that God could keep is promise to David and His curse on Jehoiachin which made Jesus the uncursed legal heir to the throne of David.
#14
Posted 09 April 2003 - 12:04 AM
He is first considered a lamb because He is humble to the will of God.
#15
Posted 09 April 2003 - 09:11 PM
In Genesis 49:1-9 we read of Jacob prophesying to his sons what the future will hold for them and their descendants. To his son Judah he tells him “Your brothers will praise you” and in verse 9 he describes his son as a lion cub. However, the symbolism in the rest of Jacob’s prophecy concerning Judah is startling. Vs 10 ‘The scepter will not depart from Judah, nor the ruler's staff from between his feet, until he comes to whom it belongs and the obedience of the nations is his’. Was this not a prophecy concerning the future kingship of Jesus? And then in verse 11 Jacob’s reference to the washing of his robes in the blood of grapes is something to really take us aback. Jesus was of the tribe of Judah and therefore a descendant of Jacob’s son of that name. The Hebrew meaning of the name Judah is ‘Praise’, or as close a word as it can be translated in to English. Jesus’ entire life was the only ever true example of the kind of worship and praise given to God that He is worthy of. The sacrifice of His entire life. Fully committed to God.
As we read Jeremiah’s prophecy, "The days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which he will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness. (Jeremiah 23:5-6) we can see clearly that Jesus is the promised redeemer from the lineage of David.
Mike D
#16
Posted 11 April 2003 - 02:21 AM
#17
Posted 12 April 2003 - 03:39 PM
Judah was pictured as a "lion's cub" and a "crouching lion" from whose tribe
the Messiah would come.
The Root of David refers to Isaiah's prophecy
"A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots
a branch will bear fruit......"
Jesse was the father of King David from whose line the Messiah would come.
#18
Posted 14 April 2003 - 06:09 PM
Q1: Both titles are Jewish titles referring to prophecies from the OT that predicted that there would be one from the tribe of Judah and from the family of David who would at last rule over the earth and solve its problems. The title refers to the King of the Jews. Pilot must have had help to understand that prophecy.
Q2. Lamb-Jesus//Slain Lamb standing-signifies that Jesus has ceased to be merely an earthly event, he has now become a cosmic event. Symbols-tie together the earthly promises of Israel and the heavenly calling of the church//Horns-in scripture they speak of power while seven is considered the number of fullness//Eyes- speak of full intelligence, discernment, by means of the Holy Spirit. These seven eyes are the seven spirits of God.//
Seven- Usually means fullness or completeness as in seven days of the week. God rested on the seventh day.
Q3. The great deed of Jesus (dying for us) gave freedom to those who were slaves. The Cross became the creative deed which remade the ways of human life. In reading vss 3-4 (KJV) I have to ask-where was Jesus?
Q4: As Christians, it is understood that we who are redeemed also contribute to the role of redemption. To do so, we have to be a part of the reign of good will. As Christians, we are considered priests because as such we should be reverant in our reign upon god's earth.
Q5. With John Calvin, Martin Luther and others having difficulty with this book, I do not feel bad that I cannot answer this question. To me, it implies two entities. Still searching.
Shalom, Bob
#19
Posted 14 April 2003 - 06:31 PM
Bob Wardrop, on Apr 14 2003, 10:09 AM, said:
Q1: Both titles are Jewish titles referring to prophecies from the OT that predicted that there would be one from the tribe of Judah and from the family of David who would at last rule over the earth and solve its problems. The title refers to the King of the Jews. Pilot must have had help to understand that prophecy.
Q2. Lamb-Jesus//Slain Lamb standing-signifies that Jesus has ceased to be merely an earthly event, he has now become a cosmic event. Symbols-tie together the earthly promises of Israel and the heavenly calling of the church//Horns-in scripture they speak of power while seven is considered the number of fullness//Eyes- speak of full intelligence, discernment, by means of the Holy Spirit. These seven eyes are the seven spirits of God.//
Seven- Usually means fullness or completeness as in seven days of the week. God rested on the seventh day.
Q3. The great deed of Jesus (dying for us) gave freedom to those who were slaves. The Cross became the creative deed which remade the ways of human life. In reading vss 3-4 (KJV) I have to ask-where was Jesus?
Q4: As Christians, it is understood that we who are redeemed also contribute to the role of redemption. To do so, we have to be a part of the reign of good will. As Christians, we are considered priests because as such we should be reverant in our reign upon god's earth.
Q5. With John Calvin, Martin Luther and others having difficulty with this book, I do not feel bad that I cannot answer this question. To me, it implies two entities. Still searching.
Shalom, Bob
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. II Tim. 3: 16-17.
#20
Posted 15 April 2003 - 12:16 AM
I only know that I am rejoicing for whomever God chose to be the Lineage of Jesus...
As a Lion He shows much Strength and with His word consuming the Flesh... as a Lamb He is Meek and Humble and in Sacrifice gave His Best.
I pray that we should also be as He: as a Lion with much Wisdom and Boldness and as a Lamb:
Gentle with eyes on the Shepherd.
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