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Q4. The Prophecy of Immanuel

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 02:22 PM

Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?
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Posted 29 November 2007 - 03:42 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Oct 10 2007, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?


I think I might be misunderstanding your statement "Though to our knowledge, the name Immanuel was never given to Jesus, it certainly applied to him, since "God with us" is a perfect way to describe the birth of the God-Man, Jesus Christ, who is fully man and fully God"

I found at least 3 vss in my Bible where Jesus was named Immanuel.
Isa 7:14 ...a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel.

Matt 1:23...which restates the above verse

Isa 8:8 referring back to 7:14

Can you clear this up for me?
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Posted 08 December 2007 - 05:30 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Oct 10 2007, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?


Isaiah's statement to King Ahaz in Prophecy that a Virgin will concieve and His name will be called Immanuel, meaning "God with us", foretold that very thing. I have never heard it any other way than it foretelling the birth of Jesus. As we see in our text (Matthew 1:23) "...Matthew 1:23 (AMP) Behold, the virgin shall become pregnant and give birth to a Son, and they shall call His name Emmanuel—which, when translated, means, God with us. It then became reality, and thus, the prophecy was indeed fulfilled.


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Posted 09 December 2007 - 09:00 PM

It appears that it was Matthew who saw the virgin conception that Isaiah spoke about, and the name Immanuel, God with us, as having a fuller meaning in Christ.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 12:44 AM

Immanuel means God with us and it takes God to make a virgin bear a child " with God nothing is imposible"
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 12:26 PM

Mary was a virgin - the only virgin in the history of the world to ever give birth - and the whole event was fortold years before it ever happened!

Not only that, but the name Immanuel that was fortold, is telling everyone "Here is God with us in the form of a man".

This stuff is so awesome. God is so amazing.

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 02:02 PM

Isaiah 7 tells the story of King Ahaz and his stubborn refusal to ask God for a sign. (He wanted to do what he wanted--imagine that!). It was at this time that Isaiah was counseling Ahaz that he made the statement which we Christians see as a prophesy of our King --Messiah--Immanuel. A theologian friend of mine says that a lot of Isaiah's and the other great prophets' statements can make sense in two different times. That is what makes a great prophet, I think.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 02:09 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Oct 10 2007, 02:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?


It comes from the shadowing prophesy by Isaiah in Chapter 7:14 where Isaiah exhorts King Ahaz of Judah who was facing a siege by the armies of Israel and its allies. Isaiah in the passage urges Ahaz to stand firm and trust God. Isaiah told Ahaz that a virgin would concieve and bear a child to be called Immanuel as a reminder that God is with his people in times of trouble. In the time this baby would grow to be just a young child Judah's enemies would be destroyed.

The virgin birth from Marym in the new Testament is presented as a fulfillment of the above prophesy in the time of King Judal because again a child Jesus must be born and his name must be Immanuel indicating that God would be among his people again and liberate them from the enemy, this time the enemy being Satan.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 02:32 PM

Through prophesy.
Isaiah tells King Ahaz that he should stand in faith because a virgin will conceive and bear a child to be called Immanuel, meaning that "God is with us in times of trouble". Prophetic words in Isaiah fulfilled in Matthew with the Birth of Christ. Yahweh saves, Immanuel makes one complete.
JESUS ------- the author and finisher of life.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 02:32 PM

Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin
conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the
birth of Jesus to Mary?
It revealed an important truth about Jesus, that He is both God and human.
Jesus was God in the flesh, God was literally among us, “with us.” Through the Holy Spirit, Christ is present today in the life of every believer.

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Posted 12 December 2007 - 04:53 PM

By becoming impregnated by the Holy Spirit Mary was able to carry the God child without having forfeited her virginity. By Yahweh being incarnated in the form of His Son, He became Immanuel. We then received all the fullness of God, bodily.
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Post icon  Posted 12 December 2007 - 04:58 PM

The prophetic concept of the virgin birth and the name 'Immanuel' found their fullness in the birth of Jesus quite literally. Mary was a virgin and Jesus' conception was via a virgin birth. They (Mary and Joseph) were to name Him Jesus (the Lord saves) shows that the Lord was/is with us. There is no hidden meaning but a literal fulfillment of the prophecy.
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Posted 12 December 2007 - 05:40 PM

This question seems a bit unclear as to its meaning. When the old testament tells where Jesus will enter this world by a most unusual means and that he will save his people from their sins and this finally happens just as it was foretold.....it no longer is a story but a real happening when Mary delivers a child without having intercourse with Joseph or anyone for that matter.
Then shepherds, Magi, and temple people Simeon and Anna, etc. further confirm this child is the Messiah.
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Post icon  Posted 12 December 2007 - 06:44 PM

Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?

The Messiah had to be a direct descendant of King David, a member of the royal family of Israel. (Jeremiah 23:5-6) Yeshua is! --- Matthew 1

The Messiah would be a man, but also more than a man. He would be God in human form.
(Isaiah 9:6-7) Immanuel, God with us ----- Yeshua is!

History tells us that only one man - Yeshua of Nazareth, fulfilled these prophecies and many others. There isn't another in all history to come even close.


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Posted 12 December 2007 - 09:06 PM

Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?
The prophesy told by Isaiah described the "Virgin Birth" who would be named "Immanuel" or God with us. This prophesy was filled in the New Testament with the conception and birth of Christ. Matthew spoke of the connection of the prophesy Isaiah made about the virgin birth of Jesus to Mary.
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Post icon  Posted 12 December 2007 - 10:05 PM

Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary? According to Matthew 1:22-23:"All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel' -- which means, 'God with us.'" Matthew was quote Isaiah 7:14. This explains why Mary was chosen. She was a virgin at the time of her marriage to Joseph. According to Jewish traditions, after Mary is brothen to Joseph, she must wait a year before the "marriage night." This is a test of faithfulness to her "husband," and to her faith. God knew this and was pleased that this event happen. After all, He is God and He knew the events that would lead up to this wonderful annoucement about His Son.
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 12:12 AM

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Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?

the sign would be that a virgin would be with child she would have a son and He would be called immanuel which means God with us this was foretold in isaiah 7: 14 in matthew 1:22 the angel who told joseph all this was to take place to fulfill what was said through the prophet Jesus was to be His name ( the Lord saves )the manner of His conception and His divine origin trully made Jesus Christ immanuel God with us once He was born through mary who was a virgin
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 07:56 AM

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Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?


It was fulfilled by Mary being a virgin and with God being the Father so Jesus was part of God so Immanuel is "God Is With Us"
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Posted 13 December 2007 - 09:49 AM

Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?

When Jerusalem is being threatened by armies of Israel, Isaiah tells Ahaz not to fear and to stand firm. As a sign, the Lord says that a virgin will conceive and bear a child to be called Immanuel as a reminder that God is with his people in times of trouble. The virgin conception and the name Immanuel has a fuller meaning in Christ. rolleyes.gif


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Posted 13 December 2007 - 03:41 PM

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Q4. (Matthew 1:23) How did the prophetic concept of the virgin conception and the name "Immanuel" find their fullness in the birth of Jesus to Mary?


1. I think that the virgin birth and the name "Immanuel" completed the fullfillment of the prophecy given by Isaiah to King Ahaz.
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