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Q2. An Eye for an Eye

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 03:27 AM

Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?
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Post icon  Posted 16 February 2008 - 05:44 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 20 2007, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?


( Exodus 21: 24 ) The "eye for an eye" rule was instituted as a guide for judges, not as a rule for personal relationships or to justify revenge. This rule made thr punishment fit the crime, thereby preventing the cruel and bar baric punishments that characterized many ancient countries. Jesus used this principle to teach us not to retaliate ( Matthew 5: 38-48). Judges, parents teachers, and others who work with people must make wise decisions in order for discipline to be effective. A punishment too harsh is unfair, and one too lenient is powerless to teach. Ask God for wisdom before you judge.

( Leviticus 24: 20 ); This was a code for judges, not an endorsement of personal vengeance. In effect, it was saying that the punishment should fit the crime, but it should not go beyond.

( Dueteronomy 19: 15-21 ) This principle was for the judges to use, not a plan for personal vengeance. This attitude towards punishment may seem primitive, but it was actually a breakthrough for justice and fairness in ancient times when most nations used arbitrary methods to punishcriminals. This guideline reflects a concern for evenhandedness and justice-- ensuring that those who violeted the law were not punished more severly than their particular crime deserved. In the same spirit of justice, a false witness was to receive the same punishment the accused persn would have suffered. The principle of making the punishment fit the crime should still be observed today.
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Posted 16 February 2008 - 09:05 PM

To quote Dr. Wilson, The lex talionis, "law of retaliation," simply stated says that you may not extract from someone who has injured you any more than you have lost. In other words, the punishment should fit the crime -- no more, no less. It seems that it was used as a method of restraint in settling various issues judicially in regards to personal matters.
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Posted 16 February 2008 - 10:41 PM

[quote name='Pastor Ralph' date='Dec 19 2007, 11:27 PM' post='32198']
Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?

IT IS JUST FOR THE COURTS ...THE LORD OUR GOD TEACHES US TO LOVE OUR NEIGHBORS AS WE LOVE OURSELVES ..AND NOT A EYE FOR A EYE.

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Post icon  Posted 17 February 2008 - 05:27 AM

Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation?

My husband has always maintained that if someone murders another, then his just punishment of murder by his peers, would deter man kind to commit murder. The fear of punishment—providing that punishment be severe and summary—would deter the passionate and vicious. This would then put the evil away from among us. I don’t think so because satan has not been placed in his eternal hell, with all those who make the eternal committed sin of not believing in Yah’shua as the Son of God. As long as he is still on the loose, and until our King has come to rule and reign with peace, then man kind will kill on command of their leader.

I do however, believe that if this were enacted and carried out with out question, crime would drop to an all time low. The justice, the holiness, and the wrath of God have been so far pushed into the background, and a God that loves everybody thrust into the foreground, so much so that many have not even began to understand the ‘fear of God’. Is He or is He not, still on the throne?

For the past fifty years the vast majority of pulpits have maintained a guilty silence on Eternal Punishment so that few now have any dread of the wrath to come. Our Bibles tell us that it is coming. Our crimes against humanity will not go un-punished. Abortion will be the number one sin that I believe that God will be just in serving to us, when His wrath is unleashed. We have sat by to very long, in silence. We as a nation are guilty, by our silence. It’s like this election year, may come down to only one choice on the one side, but clearly two evil’s on the other which have stated they are for abortion. If we do not vote for the only one who is against abortion, even though we may or may not want him as our President, we still can not abstain from voting, because by doing so, we are silently voting ‘for abortionist’. We too must stand for those who do not have a voice. Remember too, “a voice is a voice, no matter how small”

The purpose of this passage I believe is to teach the disciple of Yah’shua how to live righteously. Yah’shua was not putting Himself in opposition to the law, he was defining it so that the righteousness demanded of His followers, would shine through them. What the scribes and pharisees taught and practiced was above and beyond what was necessary and they made it so much more strict than was needed. This placed them above the law, which is why many now follow the same pattern. yah’shua was exposing their error and yet teaching spirituality which was expounding the moral law. The Bible says that we are not to add to or to take away from the words that are in it. The pharisee’s and anyone who teaches the way that they taught, is there-by, doing the very same thing. I call it pharisitical thinking. I believe that these teachings were It was designed to protect the weak against the strong,

Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual?

Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?
"Prayer is the spirit, speaking truth to truth". Philip James Bailey
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Post icon  Posted 17 February 2008 - 08:38 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 19 2007, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?

In Exodous 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; & Deuteronomy 19:15-21, for those days in the Old testament, this respresets a a statement of principle. A similar law of retaliations is found in the Code of Hammurapi which also seems not to have been literally applied. It is designed to be administered by a judge. Yes it is designed to goven personal action.
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Posted 17 February 2008 - 10:53 PM

wink.gif Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21)


What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation?
Two things we must understand about this famous lex talionis, "law of retaliation." First, it was designed to restrain man's vindictiveness, and second it was designed to be administered as the justice of a formal court.



Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual?
Clearly, the context is a court of law giving sentence. We see the same thing in Exodus 21:22-25. This is judicial punishment decided by a court. As John Stott puts it:

"It thus had the double effect of defining justice and restraining revenge. It also prohibited the taking of the law into one's own hands by the ghastly vengeance of the family feud."




Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?

It also prohibited the taking of the law into one's own hands by the ghastly vengeance of the family feud."




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Posted 17 February 2008 - 10:53 PM

QUOTE(Patricia A @ Feb 17 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
wink.gif Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21)


What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation?
Two things we must understand about this famous lex talionis, "law of retaliation." First, it was designed to restrain man's vindictiveness, and second it was designed to be administered as the justice of a formal court.



Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual?
Clearly, the context is a court of law giving sentence. We see the same thing in Exodus 21:22-25. This is judicial punishment decided by a court. As John Stott puts it:

"It thus had the double effect of defining justice and restraining revenge. It also prohibited the taking of the law into one's own hands by the ghastly vengeance of the family feud."




Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?

It also prohibited the taking of the law into one's own hands by the ghastly vengeance of the family feud."




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Post icon  Posted 18 February 2008 - 12:29 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 20 2007, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?


1) Its' purpose was to restrain vindictiveness and vengence. The punishment was to fit the crime, no more and no less.

2)It was designed to be administered by a court or judge.

3)It is designed to prevent the taking of the law into one own's hands....to avoid the Hatfield and McCoy type of feud, where more and more pain and damage was inflicted.
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 20 2007, 03:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?


the purpose of the "eye to eye,and tooth to tooth" regulation was to stop the crime.

the law was designed to be administered by an individual and designed to govern judicial action
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Posted 18 February 2008 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 19 2007, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?

The purpose eye for an eye and the law which it pertains to is for civil obedience. The punishment was to insure that an injured party recieve justice, vengence equal to and not exceeding loss. Loss had to be proven to a court and in death cases at least two witnesses must testify. The law as stated was to govern judicial action because all matters of dispute were to be brought before the court.

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 02:52 AM

The purpose of the eye for eye regulation was to get people to show restraint. When administered by a court, it was to not inflict on the guilty more than what he inflicted on another--to make the person harmed, whole. It seemed to be a judicial matter, but can show us we must practice restraint on our anger and pay back with love!!

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Posted 19 February 2008 - 05:26 AM

Accountabality was the purpose,. To show restraint via use of a court or judge. Judicial Action - Balance - no more , no less.
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 10:20 AM

Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?

It was to make the people stop and think before doing wrong to others. It was designed to be administered by the judges in front of the people to insure it was the fair and just sentance of God. It was to control personal action.
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Posted 19 February 2008 - 05:43 PM

Q2. What was the purpose of the “eye for eye, and tooth for tooth” regulation? Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual? Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?

Justice is always hard to pronounce. I do believe that paying for the crime is necessary, but many times the punishment exceeds the crime. If an individual “takes the law into his own hands” then is that right in the eyes of God? No, I don’t believe so. Human nature is so that people want to retaliate in anger, instead of allowing themselves to settle down and think through the situation. I believe that the this law is set down to control the anger or an individual and that a court, or mediator assists in resolving the issue. I also think that this law is set down for both judicial action and personal action. A jury should be objective and make decisions based on fact. Unfortunately, because of our own experiences and perceptions sometimes the decision because skewed.

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Posted 20 February 2008 - 10:56 PM

The purpose of the eye for eye regulation was to be just and fair. The law was designed to be administered by a court or judge. It is designed for court purposes
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Posted 21 February 2008 - 02:40 PM

The purpose was actually to restrain the response to an injury so that vindictiveness would be constrained. The punishment was not allowed to be greater than the injury incurred.

It was designed to be administered by a court and to govern judical action.
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Post icon  Posted 22 February 2008 - 03:58 PM

Q2. (Exodus 21:24; Leviticus 24:20; Deuteronomy 19:15-21) What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation?
It was a means to restrain the evil of man's heart against another, the results found in the truth of the situation, brings justice.

Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual?
Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?
It is designed for us to be governed by the judicial action, a court of justice. unsure.gif
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Posted 22 February 2008 - 04:11 PM

It was designed so no man would be vindictive enough to do worse than what was done to him. Punishment to fit the crime, administered by a formal court. It is/was to govern personal revenge, governed by a court of law.
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Post icon  Posted 22 February 2008 - 07:05 PM

What was the purpose of the "Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth" regulation?
To restrain man's vindictiveness, not encourage it - that it would be just and not overboard.

Is this law designed to be administered by a court or judge, or by an individual?
'A matter must be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' - Therefore, designed to be administered by a court of law.

Is it designed to govern judicial action or personal action?
Judicial action - it prohibits taking the law into your own hands.

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