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Q1. Faith and Justification

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 12:01 AM

Q1. (Romans 5:1-2) According to verses 1-2, faith is a key to salvation. For Abraham (4:3), what was the relationship between faith and justification? For us (5:1-2), what is the relationship between faith and justification? In your own words, just what does it mean to be justified?
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Posted 12 September 2008 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 16 2008, 08:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 5:1-2) According to verses 1-2, faith is a key to salvation. For Abraham (4:3), what was the relationship between faith and justification? For us (5:1-2), what is the relationship between faith and justification? In your own words, just what does it mean to be justified?

A faith that bears fruit is the faith that God wants. The only way to live is to have FAITH in Jesus Christ (John 11:25). The restoration of the damaged relationship we have with the Father is only JUSTIFIED by believing in Christ Jesus. For me Justification is the reason why God the Father will accept us back. It is something which gives us credibility to say to the father " I am your lost sheep. recognize me because your Son know me. huh.gif
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 10:39 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 16 2008, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 5:1-2) According to verses 1-2, faith is a key to salvation. For Abraham (4:3), what was the relationship between faith and justification? For us (5:1-2), what is the relationship between faith and justification? In your own words, just what does it mean to be justified?


Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness” (Rom 4:2-3).
Paul makes it clear that it was faith alone that justified Abraham. He was referring to Genesis 15:6, where Abraham put his trust in the divine promise that he would be the father of many nations. It was his assurance that God’s character guaranteed the completion of this promise for which God justified him. Thus, Abraham was not justified by works of the law, but by faith when he believed God.


Faith means to trust in God for every aspect of our lives, especially our salvation. This eliminates the notion that we are saved by a mere confession that we believe in Jesus and that He died for our sins. To believe in Jesus means that we completely rely on Him for our salvation. It is a lifetime of walking with Jesus, trusting Him for our salvation everyday. It has to do with our commitment to Jesus. To be justified by faith, then, means that God considers an individual to be righteous when they place their complete trust in Jesus' work on their behalf at Calvary, renouncing any ability of their own to save themselves.

To be justified by God, then, is for Him to declare a right relationship between a man and Himself. God counts us to be righteous. In other words we are righteous as far as standing with God is concerned, but we aren't necessarily righteous as far as our "works" are concerned. There is no change in our nature. We still have a sin nature.



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Posted 13 September 2008 - 11:11 AM

What a question to with which to start this course! - the answer to which is basic to our understanding of the Christian life. I understand Justification as being the work of God through which we, as sinners, are treated by God as being "righteous". This righteousness is not earned by us. It is based completely and solely upon Jesus' sacrifice on the cross. We receive it through faith alone.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 12:23 PM

My understanding of the question is that through beliving that Jesus died for our sins and wants to have a relationship with us. We have been given the permission to be able to have that relationship with him. No more holding back from him. Being totally honest and true to him.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 12:23 PM

God pronounced Abraham to be in right standing with Himself, acceptable in His eyes, because Abraham believed all that God had told and promised him. He was willing to establish the rest of his life on his confidence in Yahweh. This faith was the means through which this pardon from God was extended.

Our rightful death sentence is forgiven now because of God's grace in fully accomplishing all that He promised through His Law and Christ's perfect completion of that Law. Every believer's moment of pardon comes through this same means of faith - complete trust in all that God has promised and reliance on Him to make good.

I've always like the little phrase "just as if I'd never sinned". To be justified is to be declared "not guilty" of being an enemy of God - seen as one who never transgressed Him at all! What a miracle since I truly was an enemy of God, the complete opposite of His moral purity and holiness, completely deserving His wrathful judgment. But He was willing to excuse that when I became willing to be consumed by His love, transformed by His Spirit within me, and covered by the holiness of Christ. All of that happens through one means: honest faith that changes the way I think and live. Hebrews 11:6 clearly shows us that such faith is the only thing from humanity that pleases God and allows a person to draw near to Him.

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 01:26 PM

QUOTE(Ian L @ Sep 13 2008, 07:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What a question to with which to start this course!

Yes, it is quite a question to start the course! But I think it is important that we all answer “just what does it mean to be justified?” so here is my answer:

To be justified means to be made right with God.

And we must never forget how we are justified. Paul wrote in Romans 5:9, “Since we have now been justified by his blood,” and as Ian has said: “It is based completely and solely upon Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross.”

Peace!
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 01:33 PM

I just wanted to add these thoughts about being justified from Brennan Manning:

Justification by grace through faith means that I know myself accepted by God as I am. When my head is enlightened and my heart is pierced by this truth, I can accept myself as I am. Genuine self-acceptance is not derived from the power of positive thinking, mind games, or pop psychology. It is as act of faith in the God of grace.

That’s from The Ragamuffin Gospel, page 46. On the very next page, Brennan Manning adds:

The acceptance of self does not mean to be resigned to the status quo. On the contrary, the more fully we accept ourselves, the more successfully we begin to grow. Love is a far better stimulus than threat or pressure.”
Peace!
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 01:55 PM

Abraham was accounted righteous because of his faith,we have been justified through faith.To be justified means to be "not guilty",to be declared righteous before God through faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 16 2008, 12:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 5:1-2) According to verses 1-2, faith is a key to salvation. For Abraham (4:3), what was the relationship between faith and justification? For us (5:1-2), what is the relationship between faith and justification? In your own words, just what does it mean to be justified?


To me, to be justified would mean to have qualified for the right of something, or having a sufficient reason to be so. In this case the sufficient reason would be Christ dying for our right and we qualify by believing in Him
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 03:43 PM

Q1. (Romans 5:1-2) According to verses 1-2, faith is a key to salvation. For Abraham (4:3), what was the relationship between faith and justification? For us (5:1-2), what is the relationship between faith and justification? In your own words, just what does it mean to be justified?

Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God.

1 "Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God." (5:1-2)


Faith is our only means to justification, we can not doing anything to bring about our own righteousness of justification, we are totally dependant om God and His grace and mercy. If we are to be justified then we must have faith in Christ that the Father will finish the work He has begun in us to the day of completion. Being justified means being found not guilty of sin we are a sinful people and God has blessed us by giving us a way out and that way is by faith in His Son Jesus.
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Post icon  Posted 13 September 2008 - 04:43 PM

Q1. (Romans 5:1-2) According to verses 1-2, faith is a key to salvation. For Abraham (4:3), what was the relationship between faith and justification? For us (5:1-2), what is the relationship between faith and justification? In your own words, what does it mean to be justified?

I am justified, found innocent before God because, I believe what God said and did.

I believe in the God of Abraham, that God raised up Yeshua our Lord from the dead;
Understanding the reason He raised Him up was, the perfect work Yeshua did on the cross.
My "faith" my "confidence" is found only in Father God and my Lord Yeshua.

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Posted 13 September 2008 - 05:58 PM

just what does it mean to be justified?
Justification is a judicial term. It is legally separate from practice in that I can be justified independent of practice. Perhaps I have exemption of judgment because the judge has favor on me or because I bribe the judge. In either case I can be justified independent of my transgressing a certain law. Justification is the opposite of being framed. Witness Ro. 4:5
But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,
Further the following dyad further exposes the jurisprudential nature of justification--independent of actions
but where there is no law, there also is no violation. Ro. 4:15
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sin is not imputed when there is no law. Ro. 5:13
Finally couple the above dyad with
BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT Ro. 4:8
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For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. (Ro. 8:2)
and you will see that whom the Son sets free, shall be free indeed. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 07:07 PM

we believe that Jesus has paid the price with his blood , we believe that he has done this for us then we are justified by our faith that we have jeuses as our lord
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Posted 13 September 2008 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 16 2008, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 5:1-2) According to verses 1-2, faith is a key to salvation. For Abraham (4:3), what was the relationship between faith and justification? For us (5:1-2), what is the relationship between faith and justification? In your own words, just what does it mean to be justified?

1) Abrahams relationship was his belief in God, Which God gave him justification & made him righteous.

2) Our relationship between faith and justification, comes from our belief in Jesus christ who died for our sins.

3) To be justified you are : Let off, aquited, pardoned, righteous...in the eyes the lord

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Posted 14 September 2008 - 12:02 AM

Abraham had to work on his forgiveness. He had to show his faith. This is why God counted his a rightous man, because of his faith. It gives the impression he had to continue showing his faith to continue being forgiven.

Jesus changed everything. Through Jesus and accepting Jesus Christ, we are vindicated, unable to be tried again for the same sin.
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Posted 14 September 2008 - 02:57 AM

Abraham's belief in the promises of God, regardless of what he saw or lived or experienced is what made him righteous in the eyes of God. What an incredibly powerful verse this is for me. "Against all hope Abraham yet believed" and because of this he was counted as righteous. This is the level of faith I seek after. This is the level of faith I believe is needed to truly live a Christ centered life; to believe despite what you "know", as I remember hearing Juanita Bynum say that "faith is believing when common sense is telling you otherwise" and I have never forgotten those words.
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The work of righteousness is peace; and the effect of righteousness is our assurance forever. The righteousness is Christ in us and all the work that He has done, not what we have done or ever will do. Our part is believing in Him and what He did, all purely by faith. I am free from guilt and the penalty of sin, through my faith in Jesus, who did all the work. It is our conduct of how we yield to the Holy Spirit’s work in our new creature. This is the combination of what makes us whole. This is justification. This is freedom.

I have a mental picture and can describe it this way. When I was born, I was given life. Inside of me was a mirror image of God who is a spirit. Because I am human, I was born with ‘me’ inside, which is ‘my self man’ . When I came to know Jesus, He blew life into the spirit man inside and woke him up. Spirit man began to take over because self-man began to move out and yield to spirit man. God blew new life in to my spirit man through Jesus . Now I am a spirit man, inside a self man’s body. But self man is the old one who is slowly packing up her baggage and moving out while spirit man is cleaning out the new house because self man never paid the cleaning bill, but Jesus did and He has the right too live inside and rearrange the inside to better suit Jesus who now resides.
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Added: Even though we have peace through God, we still face daily problems and it is through this process, that we become more and more Christ like.
"Prayer is the spirit, speaking truth to truth". Philip James Bailey
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Posted 14 September 2008 - 04:34 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 15 2008, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 5:1-2) According to verses 1-2, faith is a key to salvation. For Abraham (4:3), what was the relationship between faith and justification? For us (5:1-2), what is the relationship between faith and justification? In your own words, just what does it mean to be justified?



For Abraham it was Believing and knowing what he believed was true. (4:3)

Faith is believing in God and knowing that he is God. Justification is knowing what you believe is true. (5: 1-2)

Justified Means to be set free of all wrong doing's on your behalf for your believing in the lord thy God and only the Lord thy God.


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