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Q1. The Flesh, the Sinful Nature

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 16 August 2008 - 12:16 AM

Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?
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Posted 11 October 2008 - 04:31 PM

Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?

Flesh, or sinful nature, is that part of us that is human-selfish. It is that part that wants what it wants, no matter how bad the want is-no matter who gets hurt. It is that part of us that causes us to be separated from God. This is the part that the "law" speaks to.
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Posted 13 October 2008 - 06:11 PM

Paul uses the "flesh" to mean the sinful human nature of rebellion against God. It is the inherent proclivity to act in accordance with the dictates of sin. It strikes me as the perfect word for this characteristic, because physical flesh will die, and death is the ultimate result of sin. The flesh is part of this temporal earth and its systems, which one day will also pass away.
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Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:20 AM

Q1. (Romans 7:5)
Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8.
In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?
We inherited a sinful nature because of Adam’s sin. In Ps 51:5 David admits he was sinful from his conception- sinful in his very nature. Our nature includes a disposition to sin; Paul affirms this in Eph 2:3, ‘we were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind’. Our inherited corruption and our tendency to sin, means that as far as God is concerned we are not able to do anything that pleases Him. Our body is dominated by sin. Every part of our being is affected by sin – our intellects, our emotions and desires, our hearts, our goals and motives and even our physical bodies. Paul says, ‘I know that nothing good dwells within me, that is, in my flesh’ (Rom 7:18). Before we were saved the flesh was the basis of our standing before God. In the flesh is the opposite of ‘in Christ’.

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 01:16 AM

The way I understand the comment of "flesh" is referring to what us as humans want. This goes back to something that took me a long time to understand; original sin. I didn't believe in original sin until I understood what Romans really said. What I have found is a conflict between what I know is right as a Christian and what I want as a human. What I want as a human is the "flesh". Paul describes this conflict quite well.
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Post icon  Posted 19 October 2008 - 11:07 AM

Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?

The flesh is any part of us that does not live under the control of the Holy Spirit.

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 01:42 PM

The word "flesh" appears 3x in chapter 7 and 13x in chapter 8.
My flesh is my human nature, my natural inclination to seek pleasure and fulfillment. The problem is that those things that I seek are most often a violation of what God has told me that I shouldn't do. Thus, they are sin. And, since I can never satisfy my desires, my nature, or flesh, is my greatest enemy.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 01:54 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 16 2008, 08:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?


rolleyes.gifFlesh is the sinful nature of our human mind, and body. Our system is controlled by sin. We cannot get away with it ( with our own efforts ) because it is within us.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 06:11 PM

Flesh is that inner nature which stands in opposition to God’s value system, the root cause of the action of sins in one’s life.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 07:26 PM

Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?

It means our sinful minds or attitude,or self that causes us to think and do things against the spirit of Christ that lives in us. When we do thinks that are sinful we are allowing our minds to rule and not looking for the spiritual side that Christ would have us do. We need to be able to give up our sinful thoughts and deed to a better knowledge of Christ.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 08:35 PM

1. My sinful nature. Selfishness and self-centeredness; trying to have all of my basic instincts fulfilled, for me usually in an exaggerated degree. I am the center of the universe and in control of my own destiny. Self-knowledge is the answer.
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Posted 19 October 2008 - 08:54 PM

Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?

Paul means by "flesh" the human existence without the Divine energy that is Christ.

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 12:03 AM

Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?

In his use of the word flesh, Paul means the antithesis of Spirit. All humans, except for the Christ when he walked as a man, are embodied and therefore sinful. This is unavoidable.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 12:09 AM

Flesh to me means the very thing i battle against daily and have to rely on God every moment for deliverance. It's the thing that looks so easy and alot of the times fun but the end result is seperation from God, because sin brings death and the flesh is our old sinful nature. But as Pauls says, O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Daily I thank God for His Son....He is the truth and the only way!!

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Posted 20 October 2008 - 01:13 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 16 2008, 12:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?

The sinful state that we find ourselves in when we do that , that we don't want to do because it is wrong, even tho we do it any way, because the flesh is of darkness verses the Spirit of God light and we understands that we find that we are rebelling against God by opposing God value system.
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Post icon  Posted 20 October 2008 - 03:30 AM

Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?

When I read "flesh" I think of my mind, will, and emotions in their fallen, unregenerate state. My natural bent to sin. Who I was before I was born again, and that part of me that is dying daily now that I'm in Christ. It's the part of me that has yet to become fully Christlike...I was saved, I am being saved, and I will be saved....
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 15 2008, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?


The flesh is represented in two ways the actual physical body that all the human race is a part of and the flesh represents the evil nature that lives within us that was given to us through Adam. This how the body chooses to satisfy its desires and needs
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 09:32 PM

Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?


I believe he is talking about our sin nature as well as our physical being.
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Posted 20 October 2008 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 15 2008, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Romans 7:5) Paul uses the word "flesh" (or NIV "sinful nature") many times in chapters 7 and 8. In your own words, what does Paul mean by "flesh" in these verses?


Flesh, as Paul uses the word in Romans chapters 7 and 8 is used to denote the natural man, the first Adam, and his tendency towards sin. Our 'flesh' has a natural tendency to succumb to temptation and fall into sin.

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Post icon  Posted 20 October 2008 - 10:24 PM

What Paul means by flesh is our old nature, that paert of us that we inherited from Adam. It has no power over sin and continually turns to sin if we aren't living our life in the power of the Holy Spirit.
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