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Q2. Financial Compensation for Elders

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 02 February 2009 - 05:46 PM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?
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Post icon  Posted 08 February 2009 - 03:46 AM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially?

Especially when the Elders work is teaching and preaching in addition to looking after the affairs of the church. Paul called this practice "double honor".

What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

It's basis is in the Old Testament, Lev. 19:13, Deut. 24:14,15; Deut. 25:4,
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 07:32 PM

Paul simply states that those who are doing the Lord’s work are worthy of compensation. He uses example of support form the Old Testament priesthood and the right of farmers to share in the crop they work on as examples to support his teaching.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:42 PM

If elders are working full-time in their ministry. preaching & teaching, they are deserving of double honor. Honor of position & honor in pay.

Animals who labor are fed. Deut. 25:4

Workers are worthy of their wages. Luke 10:7
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 03:27 AM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?


Paul especially honors the elders who labor231 in teaching and
preaching,232 over those whose main tasks are administrative. And
they should be honored by compensation when they do their work
well.

Paul directs here that elders are deserving of financial
remuneration for their work. That's the meaning of "worthy of
double honor" (5:17) -- (1) respect for their work as well as (2)
the "honor conferred through compensation, honorarium."230
Elsewhere Paul explains that those who labor in the Lord's work
are entitled to support, using examples from support of the Old
Testament priesthood as well as the right of farmers to share in
the crop they work on (1 Corinthians 9:5-14; Galatians 6:6). In
verse 18 he cites Old Testament precedent as support:
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 10:40 AM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?
The maintenance of every man in the Church should be in proportion to his own labour, and the necessities of his family. He that does no work should have no wages. In the Church of Christ there never can be a sinecure. They who minister at the altar should live by the altar; the ox that treadeth out the corn should not be muzzled; the labourer is worthy of his hire: but the altar should not support him who does not minister at it; if the ox won't tread out the corn, let him go to the common or be muzzled; if the man will not labour, let him have no hire.
The scripture that support this are 1 cor.9:14, Acts 20:35, Philippians 3:2

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 06:25 PM

If an elder is a full time worker for the Lord and is solely dependent upon the church as a means of survival then that person should be compensated for their commitment. Deut 24:5, 1 Cor 9:9, 1 Tim 5:18
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 10:13 PM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

In the afore-mentioned scripture, elders should be compensated, especially if they are preaching and/or teaching.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 03:09 AM

Q2. (1Timothy 5:17-18)
In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially?
What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

Many of us have been deeply influenced by the men and women whom God has called into His service, and whose life’s work was the work of Christ. The Bible urges and cautions the church not to forget God’s workers, because they also deserve a good return for their hard work. In this passage of Scripture we are taught to take care of God’s workers. Ever since the Law of Moses, God’s plan has been that His people use part of their crops or herds or income to pay those whose full-time work is serving in His house. But there’s more to it than making sure that the preacher gets a decent allowance, or that the missionaries have adequate support to meet their needs. The issue of honour and respect, which was obviously of great concern to Paul, is very important

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 10:04 AM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

When they make it a practice to teach and lead in the ministry of Christ.

1Cor 9:10Or saith he it altogether for our sakes? For our sakes, no doubt, this is written: that he that ploweth should plow in hope; and that he that thresheth in hope should be partaker of his hope.

11If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?

Lev:19:9And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not wholly reap the corners of thy field, neither shalt thou gather the gleanings of thy harvest.

10And thou shalt not glean thy vineyard, neither shalt thou gather every grape of thy vineyard; thou shalt leave them for the poor and stranger: I am the LORD your God.

Deut: 24:14Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy, whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates:

15At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it; for he is poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the LORD, and it be sin unto thee.




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Posted 10 February 2009 - 11:02 AM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

Where elders are in full time ministry and devote all of their time to the church it is fitting that the church should pay them a salary, one that will allow them to pay their way.
The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honour, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For the Scripture says, 'Do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain,' and 'The worker deserves his wages.'" (5:17-18)

The right of farmers to share in the crop they work on (1 Corinthians 9:5-14; Galatians 6:6).


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Posted 10 February 2009 - 12:58 PM

Elders should be compensated if the affairs of the church are directed well. The Scriptural support for this is Luck 10:7 the worker deserves his wages.
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 05:18 PM

It seems all are, but Elders who are preachers and teachers should be compensated double. Leviticus 19:13; Deuteronomy 24:14-15; James 5:4.

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Posted 10 February 2009 - 11:34 PM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

Everyone should be compensated financially when they labour. Elders should be compensated double because of the quality and importance of their work. There is plenty of scriptural support in both the Old Testament and the new to say that wages should never be withheld from those who have worked, and that the need of those so abused will reach the ears of the Lord and be recorded as sins against the perpetrators. Christians in business, and the church with elders need to know they are accountable to God for the proper and appropriate financial care of those who work for them. Financial integrity ti a requirement of Christians who do not worship money, but honour the Lord with all their substance (heart, mind, soul and strength)
John 8:32 You shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.
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Posted 11 February 2009 - 10:53 AM

QUOTE (Pastor Ralph @ Feb 2 2009, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

Elders should be compensated financially in circumstances of that they labor in preaching and teaching, and that they do their work well

The Scriptural support for such a practice is as follows:
1. Support for Priesthood (who are Levites) by other tribes of Israel (Deuteronomy 18: 1-8)
2. The right of the plowman and the thresher to share in the harvest based on what they each do (Deuteronomy 25:4; 1 Corinthians 9:5-14; Galatians 6:6)
3. “The worker deserves his wages” is Jesus’ teaching on preacher compensation (Luke 10:7)
4. Honest treatment of workers (Leviticus 19:13; Deuteronomy 24:14-15; James 5:4)

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Post icon  Posted 12 February 2009 - 09:12 AM

Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

See that teaching elders are honoured and properly supported. Refuse to hear any accusation against an elder unless it is supported by two or three witnesses. Rebuke those who sin, that others also may fear, but avoid all partiality.
Don't choose your church leaders too hastily. Live a clean life and take care of yourself. You know those men’s sins, like their goodness; can be either open or hidden


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Post icon  Posted 13 February 2009 - 11:27 AM



Elders who direct the affairs of the church and who preach and teach are worthy of financial compensation.

Luke 10:7 The worker deserves his wages.

Deut 25:4 Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading the grain.
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Posted 13 February 2009 - 12:20 PM

QUOTE (Pastor Ralph @ Feb 2 2009, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?


Elders who are in fulltime ministry, who direct the affairs of the church well, should be honoured

Tim 5:18 says do not muzzle the ox while it is treading out the grain and the worker deserves his wages.
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Posted 16 February 2009 - 09:38 PM

Elders that do their job of teaching and preaching well. Elders that have devoted their lives to teaching and preaching and are solely dependent on the church should be well compensated.

1 Timothy 5:18 states the laborer is worthy of his reward.
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Posted 17 February 2009 - 04:45 PM

QUOTE (Pastor Ralph @ Feb 2 2009, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. (1 Timothy 5:17-18) In what circumstances should elders be compensated financially? What is the Scriptural support for such a practice?

When they are teaching and preaching. Scripture: 1 Timothy 5:17-18; Leviticus 19:13; Deuteronomy 25:4; Deuteronomy 24:14-15; James 5:4; 1 Corinthians 9:5-14; Galatians 6:6
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