Pastor Ralph Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4-1god Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? I attended a church years ago, where the pastor was abusing alcohol. The congregation just turned a blind eye to this problem, and as a result, other problems came out of the closet. The pastor physically abused his wife and children, he didn't pay his bills-the list goes on. Sooner or later, these problems will bleed over to the church, and the congregation will suffer. A person who leads a church must be even-tempered, and compassionate. Believe me, some people can and will try one's patience. Compassion and diplomacy come into play sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elwood C O'Dell Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? These things will affect the way one thinks, the decisions they will make and the actions they take. If you don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charisbarak Posted January 25, 2009 Report Share Posted January 25, 2009 Those tendencies are poison to relationships. They are full of self & think the world revolves around them. It would be a great way to "shrink" church membership. When you don't consider these factors, you set the church up for failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen Posted January 26, 2009 Report Share Posted January 26, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? It would seem that this person is not controlled by the Holy Spirit but by his fleshly nature. The church (us) and those in charge should be controlled by the Spirit in all things. Galatians 5:16 says Walk in the Spirit and ye shall not fulfill the **** of the flesh. Galatians 5:22-25 says But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. This takes much prayer and submitting to the direction of the Holy Spirit. If these things are not taken into consideration the witness of the church will be damaged and strife will also result. For us fellowship in unity will not be there and the joy we know in the Lord will be missing. God Bless! Jen Numbers 6:24-26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greta Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Tendencies to anger, intimidation, force and pride should be avoided in the choise of church officers. If it is not, we could end up with people who are overbearing, angry and quarelsome who try to impose Their will on the church. This would cause great problems and we would end up with a situation like that described at the beginning of the chapter of 1 Timothy. God Bless Greta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? Because a true Christ follower must show love to all people. He can't be one who likes to argue,be bossy,or domineering and bring some one to the knowledge of Christ he more likely would drive them away. He must be a good teacher and he can't be if he had rather argue,people want to learn but not from some one who argues one minor point into the ground. If we fail at selecting leaders then we cause descentions in the church and it become a place of gossip and indifferance rather than a place to worship the true God. God must always be first in our service and not serving ourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masika Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? An elder must not be quick-tempered. The tendency to strike out in bursts of anger would destroy the elder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkey1020 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? If a person is quick to show temper, anger or be easily persuaded to do things, than he may not be able to lead the church properly. If some church goers are gossipers or intimadators, then the leaders could follow which would not be good. A leader need to be able to stand tall and strong against persuasions. He need to be able to lead the church properly. The church could fall apart if you get improper leaders in the church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Q3. (1Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? It is vital to select leaders who demonstrate Jesus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah43 Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? A pastoral leader who is given to these character vices will not be able to lead effectively, and will effect obedience, if at all, through fear and bullying and ego driven motivations rather than through disciplined love, respect, and a true knowledge of the Word. Too much self and not enough Spirit. Such a person needs more learning and transformation before he will ever be able to teach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJeff Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 As Christians we are required to be Christ like. This means meek, gentle, humble, compassionate, etc. Anger, intimidation, force and pride are contrary attributes which chase people away rather than lead them to the Lord. 1 John 4:1 tells us to prove or test the spirits to see whether they are God's or not. This takes time and hasty decisions about potential leaders can lead to distasterous results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sept Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 All Christians ought to exemplified the characteristics of Christ and yes a leader needs to be spiritually filled with the Holy Spirit. Compassion, openness, and a willingness to love others is essential, but a leader needs to be able to recognize their own shortcomings and pray and ask God to help. Leaders do not lead without God's help and seeking his wisdom in all things. Paul gave us these guidelines to assist the body in choosing those leaders that God calls. A leader is called by God for this area. In Corinthians, we are told some are called to be apostles, others prophets, others pastors etc. All Christians need to pray and listen to God and follow the direction of his calling, loving each other, and when a leader is set apart for ministry, then the body needs to pray and uplift that person daily, trusting in Jesus to empower the leader to step out in faith and to lead with the same qualities that Jesus leads with - love, compassion, honesty, kindness, truth, generosity, and open and willing spirit to follow where God leads. We say the Lord's Prayer and not only is it the prayer Jesus gave us - it is the perfect pray - Thy will be done. One we all need to remember - God's will be done. If it is of God, it will come to pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanMary Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? These tendencies reflect an individual who is walking in the flesh, rather than in and controlled by the Spirit, who "leads" out of their emotions, hair trigger reactions, immaturity and pride. What happens when you don't consider these factors? They may be set up for attacks of Satan, and fall prey to pride and other temptations. Their lack of character/ tested quality can imperil the church, and wound the flock. (I speak as one whose family suffered under the spiritual abuse and manipulation of such untried, "fleshy" leaders.) Our son has not attended church for years...shying away from further potential devastation and the rest of us have distanced ourselves from involvement for the same reason...arms length. Praying for healing from these deep wounds from trusted leaders who proved to be "untrustworthy" wolves in sheeps clothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raider Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 I feel the nature of these things in church leaders can affect the way of ones thinking, and decision making. If you don't consider these things it can cause harm and hurt to people and the church. ( Disgrace ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clement Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? Proverbs 16:32 - He that is slow to anger is better than the mighty; and he that ruleth his spirit than he that taketh a city. a "leader" who is not objective, and see the good in the bad ; and walk not in LOVE is downright dangerous to those around him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? When one displays any of the above tendencies it shows that they cannot control their emotions.This shows immaturity and lack of direction,two traits that don't lend themselves to leadership of any kind least of all the church. If these factors are not considered when appointing church officers it will lead to a total lack of authority in the church,and even distortion in the teaching.People outside the church would be turned away and a great disservice to our Lord will be done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delivered Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? These are not signs of a regenerated person, a blameless person, a new creation in Christ. These tendencies would be ones satan would like to have as a leader in the church. These tendencies are the ones Christ came to change, not to be placed in the seat of leadership. What happens when you don't consider these factors? False teaching is one of the things that would happen to the church. False teaching brings disaster, not just to the body, but, for each individual; our war is with the powers that are out to deceive and destroy the work of the cross. We must remember, there are wolves out there in sheeps clothing, they pretend to be what they are not, they are out to fleece the flock, to bring glory to themselves. We must put them to the test, how long? I don't know, but I do believe we must be in prayer and following the leading of the Holy Spirit, not just in this decision, but in all decisions we have to make, day by day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaps Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? Jesus was angry, but sparingly. A tendency to anger is a manipulative practice which He never used. When He was angry He acted in a deliberate, well planned manner that achieved the result He wanted (making a whip and using it in the temple). He never used anger to manipulate any situation or other person. A tendency to anger refers to a consistent method of tantrum style behaviour to terrify others, to intimidate. This will never win real trust, though it may win a thin style of loyalty which doesn't involve trust. Pride is an inward looking desensitiser to the being and needs of others. It is not the characteristic of a servant heart. It is not the characteristic of wisdom which is so very aware of individual others. Jesus said "By this shall all men know that you are My disciples, that you love one another." Pride can't love another. People having such characteristics will not be able to lead properly, but will misinterpret teaching to their advantage. If these factors are not considered, then selected leaders will cause havoc in the church, departures, wrong interpretatin of doctrine (to suit the pastor) and personality cults instead of Christ Centred churches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCollum Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? Misconduct and disorder weaken the support of God's truth in the world. A person in leadership of God's people. When you don't consider these factors the church may be in danger of a person with several- fld such as Impaired judgement, Risk of a public binge and discredit to the church, a life pattern of lying and self-deceit to cover up or excuse the problem and guilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazzo47 Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 The people with the listed characteristics I believe are usually people who are hurting. You drink too much when you're trying to numb the pain. You get angry or violent because of pent up anger that you've been keeping. I forgot who I'm quoting, but the quote is, "hurt people, hurt people". A person who have all this stuff inside them will at best have difficulty showing the people of the church that he/she cares and at worst will do more damage to the people than good. I really think this is why the church as a whole is seen as being so hypocritical. People unfortunately do get hurt by the people of the church. These things also compromise our witness. If we're angry all the time then why would a non-Christian want to learn more about the life with Christ? What is it about us that others will see and be attracted to or want to know more about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moses 4 Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? A steward of God, His representative to care for God's flock and Holy Scripture entrusted to the bishop One who can contend successfully with those who contradict sound doctrine; The same word for bishop is also translated "visitation" in Luke 19:44 where it refers to the 1st coming of Christ, and in 1 Pet. 2:12 to the 2nd coming of Christ. This would imply that part of the bishop's role is to be a visitor of people in need since Christ visited us in our time of need; If we don't consider these factors? Then we have Leaders who: are not afraid to slander celestial beings" Pax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choice Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? you want the paritioners to feel comfortable and not bullied into their decision to serve God. the officers are representative of the church. if you don't consider this it will reflect badly on the church as a whole(all Christians will be categorized) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignited Soul Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Tendencies of anger, intimidation, force, and pride are so important when considering and selecting church officers because anger, intimidation, force, and pride are all works of the flesh. These are evidence that this individual has not mortified his flesh and thus, is not suited for such an important church office. To choose someone exemplifying such character is sure to bring reproach to the body of Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriciaa Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Q3. (1 Timothy 3) Why are tendencies to anger, intimidation, force, and pride so important to consider in selecting church officers? What happens when you don't consider these factors? When selecting church officers, people who make good decisions and use good judgement based on God's Word are very important. Those with tendency to anger quickly, who intimidate and are full of pride can be a disscredit to God's church. Leaders should be good examples of living as Christ taught us to live. They are not perfect but daily strive to follow Christ. These leaders are called to guide the flock and unless they are mature spiritually, they are not ready to be leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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