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The never-ending Kingdom is anomaly in the world history because it something that we are not able to understand. We live in a finite world and having a world without end is hard to understand. Just and righteous governments are so rare because it is a man sitting on the throne. And man is always wanting more and more even when they have enough. I don’t have any idea of the justice He will bring to me when he is the boss in the Kingdom of God.

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A never ending Kingdom is an anomaly because it's not what we are used to and our understanding is more wordly than Godly.

A right and justice government does not exist because man is in charge. Man is not God and their logical thinking can be based on wordly values, cultures, finances, etc. 

Jesus will bring peace. There will be no conflicts, no suffering, and anything else that affects our well-being. We will be free from all of it.

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Q7. (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom an anomaly in world history?  This world of humans doesn't have the capacity to rule a kingdom that will last forever. 

Why is a just and righteous government so rare?  The just and righteous governments wherever they may be or may have been are so only because the rulers sought after Jesus. 

What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?  I look forward to the justice that all of creation needs, to be restored anew like it was in the beginning in the garden of Eden. 

 

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On 8/29/2021 at 2:53 PM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q7. (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom such an anomaly in world history? Why is just and righteous government so rare? What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

1.  a. Because great civilizations come and go, but Jesus' Kingdom will be just and righteous and will last forever.

     b. A just and righteous government is so rare because of sin and most people will not repent.  They rule their people harshly, do not really care for the people but for themselves.

     c. Jesus will bring perfect peace and will right wrong things bringing justice and righteousness.

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Q1. An everlasting Kingdom is an anomaly to us because there has been no such thing in world history. There is always somebody else waiting to get into power. Most people are only concerned with looking after themselves and ruling a country brings status, wealth and many other perks. Even if someone is ruling well there are still others who want to take the position away from them. Our Lord is different when He comes to claim His kingdom it will be for us, because He loves us and wants the best for us.  This kingdom under His rule will last for ever.

Q2.A just and righteousness government is so rare because we are by nature sinful. People often enjoy the status of being in government also the power and the perks. They may start off with ambitions to govern well but can get caught up in bending rules and acquiescing to people’s demands.

Q3.The justice Jesus will bring will be different to anything we have known. It will be a reign of peace, all suffering and sorry will be gone, those who have perpetrated evil on others including children will be punished so justice will be done. It will be a time of love, peace, rejoicing and adoration. Come Lord Jesus come. 

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Q1  The idea of history coming to some sort of terminus isn't new or even only biblical. Many cultures have a cyclical or repetitive vision of human history, in that we simply repeat what has happened before. Westerners believe in progress or change, so that governments as  naturally rise and fall, "better" ones take their place. Hegel comes to mind, here: for every thesis, there's it's anthesis, and in the synthesizing of both creates something new, which itself, again, goes through the same process. His point is there's an end to ever-approximating history.

What is suggested here, in these biblical passages, is that history stops when God institutes a new era, one peaceful and good, stable and long. History no longer repeats itself endlessly, or slowly moves toward a point no one can describe, but stops. Full stop. 

Until this happens, whether cyclical or progressive, history necessarily moves. Governments  fail -- ours is well on it's way toward failure, right now! -- only to be replaced. Our supposed "shepherds" will be replaced by new shepherds, sometimes brutally (French Revolution) and other times electorally. 

As a Christian, I'm to endure whatever position in history I find myself, and to realize that I can't fight the trends and processes that are too big to understand or manipulate. In my country, both the political system and vote are so corrupted that that government has rendered itself illegitimate -- as a Christian, I feel i must work to alleviate suffering and bring people to Christ within civil, not political society.

 

 

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Q7. (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom an anomaly in world history? Why is a just and righteous government so rare? What justice will Jesus bring to you when He comes? 
There will be no end to the reign of the Messiah, and He will rule for all eternity. Jesus brings about a condition of eternal peace between God and man, which is unlike the instability of world powers where there is constant strife, conflict, fighting, and trouble caused by man’s greed, power hunger, pride, and sin. The same characteristics that result in so many corrupt governments. My country is experiencing a high degree of corruption since 2009, and it does not look like ending soon. Even resulting in state capture. Jesus will bring justice, mercy and grace, to us all when He comes. Hope and joy and peace and rest will cover us all. In contrast to the politicians of today who only look for what they can get from us, our Lord Jesus will look for what He can do for us. As an example, in God’s Kingdom we will see people gently caring for orphans and those rejected by family. So, indeed, the government will be alive and working. Often silently, mostly unseen. Come Lord Jesus. Come! 
 

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Why is a never-ending Kingdom such an anomaly in world history?

There will be no end to the Kingdom of the Son of God.  Other kingdoms or world powers will come and go but Jesus kingdom will be everlasting, will not pass away and will not be destroyed.

Why is just and righteous government so rare?

Just and righteous government is rare due to greed and power.  Government favors the rich and powerful more so than the poor.

What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

Jesus will bring justice and righteousness for the poor. 

 

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On 8/29/2021 at 2:53 PM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q7. (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom such an anomaly in world history? Why is just and righteous government so rare? What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

Living forever, with no corruption, everything will live forever, flowers trees that for some is very hard to understand.

So many have such a love for money and power, to be with out that would be rare.

Justice against our enemies, justice for the poor and persecuted . 

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The never ending kingdom is an anomaly, because it will deviate from the standard or norm of our world today.  God’s kingdom will bring peace, His kingdom will never end, and will governed in justice and righteousness.

A just and righteous government is rare, because it is based on truth, God’s truth and His Holy Righteousness.  Yes God access us as we are, but in return we are to repent. This world government is based on lies, deception and oppression.  And there is no Justice especially for those who live inGod’s truth.

Jesus will bring Justice and Equity to me and this worldwhen He comes.

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7.  (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom an anomaly in world history?

Man is corrupt and so sometimes the ruling party is good and sometimes bad. In times of oppression it is often overthrown and a new government comes to rule. That is why a never-ending Kingdom is not found in world History. 

Why is a just and righteous government so rare?

People in general are a selfish bunch. It is only when they meet up with Almighty God that tactics are changed. Very rarely does one find someone in high position being genuinely just and righteous to the poor. 

What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

Justice and righteousness will one day reign through Jeshuah reigning on this earth.

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Q7.Why is a never ending Kingdom an anomalyin world history

Because it's something  the world cannot grasp and in its natural mind

Why is a just and righteous government  so rare?

We are living in a world of sin , therfore righteousness is impossible 

What justice will Jesus bring when He return? To judge the sinners and save His own

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Q7. (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom an anomaly in world history?

Humans are unrighteous beings and who rule in unrighteousness, selfishness, greed and in serious competition with one another. The spirit of “me too” must rule has caused the rotation clause in the rules or constitution of each nation to allow continuous changes or rotation. Thus there cannot be a never ending kingdom.

Why is a just and righteous government so rare?

This is due to the human, selfish and ungodly factor in mankind.

What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

Everlasting justice.

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Q7. (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom an anomaly in world history? Why is a just and righteous government so rare? What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

A never-ending Kingdom is an anomaly in world history because it has been the norm for kingdoms to rise and fall.  

There is so much injustice and so much evil in my own part of the world and I think it is so in many parts of the world. But when the Righteous judge comes to judge the whole world, he will judge righteously ensuring that we that have given our lives to him will live with him in his kingdom and reign with him where righteousness and peace will ever be available.

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Why is a never-ending Kingdom an anomaly in world history? Why is a just and righteous government so rare? What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

Jesus' kingdom is never ending and it will give eternal life to those that faithfully serve him in truth. 

It is rare because people try to fix things to suit rules that compromises. It is rare that one is pushing for justice.

Eternal life and true justice. 

 

 

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Q7. (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom an anomaly in world history?

Since it was so well protected it was a never-ending kingdom.  But when people changed gods and the gods no longer suited the kingdom it fell out of favor.  Different kings ruling with different values did not suit everybody.

 

 

Why is a just and righteous government so rare?

Since in the past government was determined by ancestral inheritance and the values would be the values of the ruling class government fairness could not be guaranteed.  Also, the people could learn how to manipulate the system by being in the right place or knowing the right people.

 

What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

He could bring individual responsibility for each of us to make our world a better place.

 

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On 8/29/2021 at 2:53 PM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q7. (Isaiah 9:6-7) Why is a never-ending Kingdom such an anomaly in world history? Why is just and righteous government so rare? What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?

Because it has never happened before.  Great civilizations come and go. World powers may last for a few decades, even a few hundred years, but then they fall before another ascendant power. Jesus' kingdom, however, will reign forever!   "His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed." (Daniel 7:14)

Righteous government is so rare because many are still in sin, evil, corrupt, looking for power and not righteous.

His Kingdom will be just and righteous, never endings and bring eternal life for those who follow after Him. 

 

 

 

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  1. Why is a never-ending Kingdom an anomaly in world history?
    • There is so much fighting among power hungry people such that the kingdoms come and go depending on who is more powerful at that time
  2. Why is a just and righteous government so rare?
    • Most leaders today are greedy, corrupt and cruel
  3. What justice will Jesus bring to you when he comes?
    • Because He is just and righteous, I guess I shall have to account for my actions 
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A never-ending Kingdom is am anomaly in world history because civilizations come and go and world powers usually last a few decades or years before they fall are overtaken by another power.

Just and righteous governments are rare because unjust and unrighteous people are in charge who overreach and oppress its people.

Jesus will bring justice when He comes for He is just and righteous and knows how to do justly and righteously.  God has taken the burden of sin off our shoulders and placed that responsibility on the shoulders of Jesus Christ who forgives repentant sinners, heals the sick and suffering and shows us how to love one another.

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