blezed Posted November 14, 2012 Report Share Posted November 14, 2012 Why does Joab slay Abner? 1. Joab slay's Abner because he killed his brother Asahel Is he justified in doing so? 2. No he was not justified. Abner did not intentionally kill Asahel. Abner had diplomatic status and was under the protection of David. How does this affect his king’s unification plans? 3. It could have affected the king's unification plans of peace among the two nations if David had not disassociated himself from the killing. Why do you think Joab is so blind? 4. That's how wanting to get revenge works. It makes you crazy and you just don't think straight. You have only one goal and that's to get revenge. How can our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives? 5. Our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives because we are not hearing what God is saying to us. Therefore, we are subject to do things our way and not God's way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioned Posted December 7, 2012 Report Share Posted December 7, 2012 Q1. (2 Samuel 3:22-39) Why does Joab slay Abner? Is he justified in doing so? How does this affect his king’s unification plans? Why do you think Joab is so blind? How can our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives? Joab slays Abner in revenge for his brother's death. Joab is not justified in this slaying as the death of his brother was not an intentional nor pr-meditated act by Abner. Joab's selfish act interrupted the plans which were being made to united both Judah and Israel under the kingship of David. In this matter of revenful killing Joab is blind to the most important matters that concern the kingdom because he was more concern about his personal feelings and his hatred toward Abner. When we are spiritually blind and allow personal motives to take center stage and upset the program or plans for the wider community we get in the way of God's plans being effective in all of our lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorraine Overstreet Posted December 31, 2012 Report Share Posted December 31, 2012 Q1. (2 Samuel 3:22-39) Why does Joab slay Abner? Is he justified in doing so? How does this affect his king’s unification plans? Why do you think Joab is so blind? How can our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives? a. Revenge for his brother Asahel's death. this was murder b. No and David pronounced a curse on Joab and his decendants. c. David displayed public remorse at Abner's death. He lead the funeral procession to Abner's tomb. David wept publically following Abner's procession and he composed a special song for the occasion, an lament. By these actions all the people of Israel knew the King had no part in Abner's murder. d. Joab was more concerned with revenge instead of the Lord's plans. Joab did not ask God for help or guidance or think about the crowning of David and fulfilling God's prophecy, he was "spiritually blind." To avoid Spiritual Blindness we should turn to God first for His help and guidence. We should not let our anger rule us to the point of forgetting to ask God for help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tammie7 Posted January 1, 2013 Report Share Posted January 1, 2013 Joab slayed Ab ner because he wanted to revenge for his brother. It hurt the king plan because there was no war at that time. he was blind because of hate and angry. it can get in the way because we see only hate and hate is in our hearts and God cannot work in that kind of heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royk Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 Q1. (2 Samuel 3:22-39) Why does Joab slay Abner? Is he justified in doing so? How does this affect his king’s unification plans? Why do you think Joab is so blind? How can our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives? Revenge is the motive. And this holding of revenge in his heart ruined Joab and his way of thinking and acting. Holding on to the past, it sound so familiar to all of us. What good is it? Jesus taught us to forgive our trespasses from others if we want to be forgiven. Despite what one might think it is all God's will that this happened this way. God is in control always; this is no exception. David united the kingdom in God's time. Why is Joab so blind? Why are we all so blind most of the time regarding God's will vs. our own? We are stubborn, holding on to old habits, false things we don't want the Holy Spirit to teach us. We learn by error or we keep doing the same thing wrong until.... Heaven help us; let us be still and hear God, let us tremble for we are just dust and will return to dust. Oh what a joy divine leaning on the everlasting arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifee Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 7a)Joab slays Abner in revenge because Abner has killed his younger brother Asahel. b)No,absolutely not.This was a selfish murderous act. c)David disassociates himself with what Joab has done.Joab wasn’t thinking about the unification plans, focused on revenge This tainted a perfect plan. d)Joab would have harboured bitterness since Asahel’s death. This bitterness could have blinded him,allowing temptation for revenge to act. e) If we move our focus away from God &allow our plans feelings to rule, God’s will cannot manifest in my life.because the way ahead is clouded & prevents us from seeing&hearing God’s voice guiding us in His plan for us, through his small voice in our prayers, the Word&teaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srwbibleman Posted January 7, 2014 Report Share Posted January 7, 2014 Q1. (2 Samuel 3:22-39)Why does Joab slay Abner?To avenge his brother's death Is he justified in doing so?In this case no because it contradicts god's plan and King David's pledge to God How does this affect his king's unification plans?It doesn't Why do you think Joab is so blind?Joab is acting in his own will and has turned away from The Lord. How can our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives?We fail to see and acknowledge people and events that God has laid in our path and, thus, miss God's will for that part of our life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjenkins1388 Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Joab slays Abner to get revenge for him killing his brother even though Abner was only defending himself. Joab is not justified in this because it is considered treachery. So because of Joabs hardened heart against Abner for killing his brother he now has brought a curse upon himself and his descendants. Forgivness is hard when it affects people we love but without it we can't move on and live the blessed life God has promised for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karynjg Posted January 9, 2015 Report Share Posted January 9, 2015 (2 Samuel 3:22-39) Why does Joab slay Abner? Is he justified in doing so? How does this affect his king's unification plans? Why do you think Joab is so blind? How can our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives? Joab still harbored anger at Abner for killing his brother, but the way he got revenge in killing Abner was not justified. He then endangered David's future plans for bringing Israel and Judah together. Joab's resentment caused him to look only at his own circumstances and pain, so he was unable to see how his actions would affect others. When we focus only on ourselves and seek to solve problems without God's help, we fail to see the bigger, better plan that God has for us and miss out on His blessings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonY Posted May 6, 2017 Report Share Posted May 6, 2017 Q1. (2 Samuel 3:22-39) Why does Joab slay Abner? Is he justified in doing so? How does this affect his king’s unification plans? Why do you think Joab is so blind? How can our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives? Joab kills Abner for revenge. No, he is not justified. In this rash action by Joab cause of certain amount of antagonism with the ten tribes David as king of Judah was able to overcome this antagonism. Spiritual blindness is probably the cause of sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crissy464 Posted June 7, 2023 Report Share Posted June 7, 2023 Joab killed Abner for revenge of his borther Asahel’s death Abner had diplomatic status and the promise of peaceful transit from David He was not justified, he should just let God do the work Could have caused conflicts, war He wanted revenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irmela Posted June 17, 2023 Report Share Posted June 17, 2023 Q1. (2 Samuel 3:22-39) Why does Joab slay Abner? Is he justified in doing so? How does this affect his king's unification plans? Why do you think Joab is so blind? How can our spiritual blindness get in the way of God working out His plan in our lives? I personally think these questions are not so easily answered with a "this is the right answer", kind of thing. Abner was the general of Saul's army. He was also of Saul's family. Abner had initiated and stood behind the fact that Ish-bosheth, Saul's son, was made king, even though he was aware that David was God's chosen candidate. Only when Ish-bosheth approached him, rightfully, for having slept with his father's concubine, did he decide to go over to David and help initiate the process of making him king. ..... Can his motives really be trustworthy. ...... By this time the brother of Joab had already been killed. Joab was the general of David's army. He was David's sister's son. His brother had been killed by Joab, who had not wanted to do this but was almost forced into it as a means self defense. Joab was hurting and bent on revenge. When he saw his opportunity, he took it. It was devious, very much so. Hebron was a city of refuge. He calls Joab back to the city where he could have been safe. ...... but calls him outside ...... he kills him the same way that his brother was killed. This time it was murder. Joab had foolishly ventured out of the city's protection to meet the one who was out and out to avenge his brother's death. From the scenes "painted" above, it seems as if Joab had more than one reason to kill Abner. Three stand out. First and foremost it was to avenge his brother's death. Then also to prevent a possibility for Abner usurping the position of general of David's army. (jealousy) Then also he did not trust Abner's motivations to be honest towards David. If he can turn traitor to the one who he put on the throne in the first place, he sure could turn to be traitor to the one he had previously tried to kill, by pursuing him with Saul. I do not think that the way he went about performing his deed , was right, but I do understand the way he thought was ultimately to protect David, and the country from further civil war. Fortunately David was wise enough to show his grief openly about this deed and could prove that it was not his intent to perform it. Throughout the years of his hiding in the wilderness and moving around seeking shelter away from Saul, David had shown that his intent was not evil towards Saul's "house". It is easy to point a finger and say that Joab was blind. Abner's past deeds did not reflect him to be very trustworthy when he was not favoured. Spiritual blindness can come in the way of God's plans, in that one tends to steer away from where He is leading, or balk from his directions. His ways are so much better to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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