Frangena Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Q 3. This truth is most precious to God's people during their persecutions, oppressive regimes and when they are tortured by worldly rulers because they give them hope and encourage them to stay rooted in their believe in God's power and authority. I expect the ultimate fulfilment to be when our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ comes again as the righteous judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Tavaziva Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 Q3. (Daniel 7:18, 22, 27) Three times the angel assures Daniel that "the saints of the Most High" will ultimately receive the kingdom and possess it forever (Daniel 7:18, 22, and 27). In what circumstances is this truth most precious to God's people? Though there may have been partial fulfillments, when do you expect the ultimate fulfillment? The “holy people of the Most High” are the true Israel, the people ruled by the Messiah. Jesus Christ gave the Kingdom to the new Israel, his church, made up of all faithful believers. His coming ushered in the Kingdom of God, and all believers are its citizens (see also. Although God may allow persecution to continue for a while, the destiny of us his followers is to possess the Kingdom and be with him forever. Belshazzar condemned for three things. 1. He acted irreverently toward YHWH. 2 He desecrated YHWH’s name by using the holy vessels from the temple in Jerusalem for a drunken party. 3. He praised man-made idols instead of YHWH. There were also 10 toes in Nebuchadnezzar’s vision. While all do not agree concerning the identity of the10 kings, we are reminded in Revelation 17:12-14 that these kings will make war against Christ, but, as the King of kings, he will conquer them. The other king mentioned here in verse is the future man of lawlessness of 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Jerry Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 The circumstance that this truth is most precious to God’s people is the return of Jesus Christ. This is when he will return and take control of the earth. I expect the ultimate fulfillment to be when the new earth is created. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda bass Posted November 11, 2015 Report Share Posted November 11, 2015 Three times the angel assured Daniel that "the saints of the Most High" will ultimately receive the kingdom and possess it forever. This truth is most precious to God's people during times of severe persecution and hardship. I expect the ultimate fulfillment of this prophecy to take place when Jesus returns to earth to destroy His enemies and set up His eternal kingdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moises Percu Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Three times the angel assures Daniel that “the saints of the Most High” will ultimately receive the kingdom and possess it forever (Daniel 7:18, 22, and 27). In what circumstances is this truth most precious to God’s people? Though there may have been partial fulfillments, when do you expect the ultimate fulfillment? It is the guarantee of our final redemption. The saints suffered, were persecuted, died for the sake of Jesus, but, at the end of times, when the 70th week is finished, the Son of Man will return to stablish His Kingdom and the saints will live the complete fulfillment of the prophesy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nancyann Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 This is a truth that is not only promised to God's people in Daniel but in other parts of the Bible and also in the New Testament by Jesus. It is the hope and faith that we as Christians stand on adn believe. I think the altimate fulfilment is the second coming of Jesus. This is a time when we will go to be with Jesus and God. So we believe in faith and know that God is true to His word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elizabeth kerr Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I think that God's assurance to Daniel that "the saints of the Most High" would in the end receive the Kingdom of God and possess it forever has been, is, and will be most precious to God's people when those who know the Scriptures and are trusting God to do as He says are persecuted by nonbelievers. ***Since those who trust God must also know the Scriptures in order to know about God's promises and receive comfort and encouragement from them, this passage and the others like it should impel us to study the Bible intensively and extensively and to meditate much on its teachings. I think this promise, whether to the angels who are faithful to God or to the people who truly believe in Him, will be fulfilled after Jesus comes again and defeats God's and Israel's enemies and establishes the millennial kingdom for Israel. I mostly agree with Mr. Wilson's understanding of the four beasts in Daniel's vision. Since the original Roman Empire no longer exists, it must be revived and occupy all its original territories again. A look at a map of the former Roman Empire shows that most of its territories are now countries that have Muslim-majority populations and governmnets founded on Islamic law. With the past and current influxes of refugees and migrants from Muslim countries into Europe and the much higher birth rate of the Muslims in the European countries, the rest of the countries in the former Roman Empire have rapidly growing Muslim populations that may (will?) outnumber and overwhelm the nonMuslims sufficiently to force changes in their governments from secular to Muslim. So, even if the fourth beast is the Revived Roman Empire, it will be Muslim, not secular, Christian, or Catholic, even if its capital is in Rome. Another reason I think the Revived Roman Empire will be Muslim is that the fourth beast in the vision "crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left" (Daniel 7:7). The original Roman Empire did not crush and destroy its enemies unless they repeatedly rebelled like Israel did. If the conquered population obeyed Roman laws and didn't rebel, the original Roman Empire governments let them live pretty much as they wished. But as the Muslims expanded their control from Arabia in Mohammad's lifetime to include the entire Middle East, large parts of Central and South Asia, the northern half of Africa, and southern Europe, they completely destroyed the cultures and social structures of the peoples they conquered and imposed Islam and the Arabic language and Arab culture on the survivors. They were just like the Islamic State, Al-Shabaab, Boko Haram, and their partners today. Today's Muslim "conquerors" crush and devour those they conquer and trample underfoot those who survive; they kill them or enslave them. I thank the God of Israel, the one and only true God, that He will judge everyone and punish those who reject Him to do evil. They will suffer eternal torment while those who believe in Jesus are in God's kingdom in heaven and rejoice to see God triumph over those who persecute us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionwolf Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Q3. (Daniel 7:18, 22, 27) Three times the angel assures Daniel that "the saints of the Most High" will ultimately receive the kingdom and possess it forever (Daniel 7:18, 22, and 27). In what circumstances is this truth most precious to God's people? Though there may have been partial fulfillments, when do you expect the ultimate fulfillment? This truth is most precious to us during times of persecution and suffering. There is no way to know when we will see ultimate fulfillment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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