keytom Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? Answer Adam was a representation of all men to come after him. Christ became leader of disciples by his teachings and righteousness for all men who become his disciples. Christ was a gift of God’s grace for all mankind to no longer be condemned and to have eternal life, by God sacrificing his only son for our sins makes Christ relevant and effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debbe Posted August 24, 2013 Report Share Posted August 24, 2013 Both were God ordained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighthouse2014 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? By being the first man created by God, Adam has represented all of man kind, thus we are all his descendants. The right for Christ to become the head of all his disciples is that he was in comparison like the first Adam. However, Adam who had sinned and brought condemnation upon all man kind, Christ, being the only begotten of God the Father and being born of a virgin has replaced the first Adam. Christ died, was buried and rose from the dead on the third day has brought righteousness to all those who have faith and believe in Him. If Christ were not the head or representative for believers before God the Father we would be lost in our sins. But because he is our representative before God, we are made righteous and justified before God our Father. For God has excepted Christ sacrifice for our sins, if by faith we believe, we become followers and brothers of Christ and no power in Heaven or earth can snatch us from his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonY Posted February 14, 2015 Report Share Posted February 14, 2015 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? Adam was the first born of the family of mankind. The first born of the family inherits the majority of the inheritance and rules the clan.All the rest of the people descend from Adam. So by this tradition Adam is the head of all mankind. In the old testament God often looks favourably upon the younger thus weaker son. God looked favourably upon Abel, Jacob rather than Esau. And Joseph was a favourite as well. Jesus is the second Adam so God looks favourably upon this beloved son. But jesus is our head for other reasons- He is the Son of God who died for our sins and was resurrected on the third day and lives in us in the Holy spirit. Thus we can have eternal salvation because of this gracious gift of the father through his son! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandma6 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 By God's right. God choose to create Adam first and therefore, he represents all humankind. The same with Christ. It is by God's design. Jesus choose to willingly and sacrifically give up His life for us and leave His heavenly home which gives Him every right. If Jesus isn't our "head", His death for us has no effect on us. We stay dead and suffer the wrath of God for all eternity. We must believe in Him, who He is and what He did for us in order to be saved for all eternity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? As the 1st head of all mankind, Adam is our representative for all subsequent humankind. Christ, as the 2nd Adam is our representative as disciples. God gave Him this right. His death atoned for all our sins so He is our Head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Dave Posted July 25, 2018 Report Share Posted July 25, 2018 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? http://www.joyfulheart.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=798 The first question was a real eye opener for me. I had always thought that we were made in God’s image, but according to Genesis 5:3 we have come along the line of Adam, which makes sense because God formed Adam out of the dust of the earth and blew life into him and since then it has been via child birth, the way God said it would be after Adam and Eve sinned. Put into that perspective Adam is the ultimate representative (or, great, great, great… grandfather of all) of mankind today who are born, and ultimately, die. Christ becomes the head of all His followers because He is the one whom God chose to enter into life with us and live under the same circumstances as man and bring us the gift of salvation and eternal life to His followers. It was Christ who brought the gift plus the fact that nobody enters the Kingdom of God in any other way except through Him. He lived a perfect righteous life and died the death we deserve to pay for our wrong doings. You can take it or leave it but it is either eternal life or eternal death one enters on judgement day. To those who do not enter into this life, with Christ as our leader it is not possible for His death to be effective for our sins. One must make a choice. I have yet to see in the Bible where a sanctuary place exists for those who refuse Christ as the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Adekunle Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 All humankind derive their physical DNA from Adam while everyone who will be saved derive their spiritual DNA from Jesus. Without Christ representing everyone, salvation would be impossible through Him. He came in the fullness of time to pay the price once and for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottie Posted October 11, 2020 Report Share Posted October 11, 2020 Adam represents all humanity in that he committed the first trespass or sin and that because he sinned first we are all condemned because of his sin. Christ is our head because He died in our place for our sins and because of what He did we are justified, forgiven, cleanses and saved. We are able to enter into heaven because of what he has done. His death cannot be effective unless we admit we are unable to do anything ourselves. Unless we admit we have failed and are guilty of disobedience and deserve death. Until we admit defeat and ask Jesus to come and cleanse us and say that we believe He died for us and ask Him to free us from our sins and from death and give ourselves over to Him. Only then can his death become effective on our behalf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godswriter Posted November 30, 2020 Report Share Posted November 30, 2020 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? Adam is the start of the human race and also the one who committed the original sin that caused everyone in our race to have our nature to become sinners as well. Christ becomes the head through the fact He teaches all of them the word and also obedience to the Lord and how to listen to the Holy Spirit. If He is not our representative then His death will not help us at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyF Posted February 18, 2021 Report Share Posted February 18, 2021 Q3. (Romans 5:15-19) By what right does Adam represent all humankind? By what right does Christ become head of all who become his disciples? If Christ is not our "representative" or "head," how can his death for sins be effective for us? It was God’s perogative to have Adam be representative of all human kind and by virtue that he was the first created being. All descendants of Adam inherit the sin nature and its penalty. We each come into this world broken from the start and have proved it with our practice. I can’t gripe about this predicament because no one has to pay the penalty of their sin unless they want to. In Adam my sins are laid on me to bear, but in Christ my sins are laid on Him who is able to cancel out the certificate of debt consisting of decrees against me (Col. 2:13-14). By Christ’s obedience to the Father’s plan…to suffer and die for the ungodly, and by his resurrection from the grave, proving his victory over death, He rightfully becomes the representative for all who place their trust in Him. In Adam I inherited sin and death; in Christ I inherit his righteousness and eternal life. This is only imputed (gifted) to me by receiving the grace offered through Jesus Christ. Salvation is offered to all men but only effective for those who place their trust in the substitutionary death of the one Man, Jesus Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irmela Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 On 9/23/2008 at 11:37 AM, hanks said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irmela Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 Man was created in God's image. In the image and likeness of God he created him. ... Gen 1:27 God saw that everything He had made was good .... Gen 1:31 God placed man (Adam) in the Garden of Eden to tend, guard and keep it. In verse 16 and 17 Adam was given the instructions of what to eat as well as what not to eat. (a limitation was placed) (The reason was given for the limitation, ... if the mark was overstepped the result would be eventual death) Adam was given the choice .... Obedience or death .... Adam as the first man, represents all humankind. In Gen 2:21-23 we are given a beautiful picture of how woman was formed . Out of man ... part of him By submitting to the wiles of satan and choosing to disobey, Adam chose death. Now that what had been good was spoiled and at the very core there was bad (disobedience). In Gen 5:3 we read that Adam's son was in his likeness. No longer was it all good at the very core there was also what was in Adam. Christ came as the second Adam. He had no sin. He in fact took the 'sin of the world upon Himself' so that we through Him can be made acceptable to God. Sin was paid for once and for all time. So if we as it were put on Christ. It is no longer we that live but Christ that lives in us.. In this way Christ has the right to be head of all His disciples. The DNA for sin, has been ripped out and replaced by Christ's righteousness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissi Posted August 21, 2023 Report Share Posted August 21, 2023 I find these concepts difficult, admittedly. The "right" that Adam represents all humankind originated in his position in Eden. He had been the first man, fashioned and created by God Himself -- Eve was derivative, btw. Adam had had perfect communion with God as the Spirit surrounded and maintained him. Thus, when Adam fell, the circumstances or scenario around and in him instantly changed. God had been content with just one human being, Adam. There were no children born to the first couple before they sinned, so Adam was the one and only man directly created by God. There were no other humans. Society wasn't part of God's original plan, His perfect plan. God had only wanted two humans, Adam and Eve. Only after Adam sinned, did they have children, "were fruitful and multiplied." Now, 1 Corinthians (somewhere) says that sin is inherited from parents to children which means the sin of Adam was passed on to his children as if it were genetically inherited. Paralleling this, in the Bible, is the corrective story of Christ. Christ, like Adam, was the first of His kind. As Adam was sinful, Christ was sinless. As Adam's sin was passed down to his children, Christ's sinlessness is imputed to those who believe in Him. As Adam "re-presents" sin within us, Christ gives us His perfect Spirit who helps us not sin. Because Christ was sinless, He negated Adam's sin through His blood sacrifice on the cross. --- This is hard stuff! I'm not at all sure I understand this. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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