Q4. Bearing Our Punishment
#2
Posted 15 March 2003 - 01:49 PM
#5
Posted 19 March 2003 - 10:40 AM
#6
Posted 19 March 2003 - 01:17 PM
interested in animal sacrifices. How could the blood of a lamb, no matter
how perfect it may be. And, since I am so far from perfect, I cannot save
myself from eternal death. As Paul said, 'Woe is me! Who will save me?"
Paraphrased a bit! Jesus, because of His great love for us was willing to
come to earth, to live a perfect, sinless life, gather a group of disciples and
teach them His precepts to carry on after His death. He willingly went to the
cross, suffered immense rejection, hate, cruel scourging and torture, and
then the shame of the cross, separation from God because of MY sin! Yes,
His sacrifice on the cross truly pays for my sin, and gives me the right to
stand before the judgement seat, totally forgiven for my sin! What a
tremendous message of hope! Praise the Lord and Glory to His name!
I long only to serve Him in love and gratitude!
#7
Posted 19 March 2003 - 04:42 PM
Hello Everyone
Because I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that He was crucified as a sacrifice to redeem all mankind, for all time, I am saved from eternal darkness. I believe Jesus rose from the dead, and so shall I, because He promised that it should be so. Jesus became my sacrificial Lamb. He knew of my personal need for redemption because he knew me, knew all my sins. All of Psalm 139 tells of God’s profoundly intimate knowledge of each of us. I have a personal Savior. He took MY place on the cross, and shed His blood for me.
I repeat with faith “The Apostle’s Creed” each week in our church with all the joy and love in my heart, because without Jesus my life would end in death and eternal separation from God. Without Jesus, I would have no hope of glory. With my risen Lord I am led, “along the path of everlasting life.” Psalm 139.
Peace and Love………..Heather
#8
Posted 19 March 2003 - 07:15 PM
"Yet it was the LORD's will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering,"
Isaiah 5312
"...because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors."
Jesus Christ paralleled His physical suffering (the process of His death on the cross) and His spiritual suffering (Matthew 27:46) with the spiritual punishment due me because of my rebelling and sinning against God's will and presence in my life; the punishment I deserved, yet, could never endure - eternal separation from God.
#10
Posted 19 March 2003 - 09:17 PM
Never be afraid to trust an unknown
future to a known God.
-- Corrie ten Boom
#11
Posted 19 March 2003 - 09:51 PM
Pastor Ralph, on Feb 13 2003, 10:15 PM, said:
The punishment was the cruel death Jesus went through.Jesus took all the punishment I so deserve.Jesus even died and conquered death.Jesus has given me life through His victory.Jesus bore the punishment that was due to me,but through Him I can live eternity in heaven when I leave this earth.Amen.
#12
Posted 19 March 2003 - 10:41 PM
#13
Posted 19 March 2003 - 11:55 PM
When God substituted our lives and our certain death for our sin, with that of His precious son Jesus, He was providing a ‘Vicarious’ sacrifice. It was the only way God could redeem the enormous debt our sins had cost mankind’s relationship with Him. Imagine getting into financial debt so deeply the only way out is to pawn some of your valuables. The pawn shop gives you the cash along with a redemption ticket. Then along comes a wealthy relative, who seeing your predicament, takes pity on you. He goes to the shop and having paid your debt, redeems your valuables and returns them to you. Through the precious blood of Jesus our lives have been redeemed from eternal death and separation from God. Yet again in Isaiah 1:18 we read further prophecy concerning Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool”. He who knew no sin in His life became sin for us. When I think on this fact alone I am awestruck that God would do this for me. How little I feel I give God in return. If I gave my all, it still could never repay the price Jesus paid for me. Bless His Holy name forever.
Listen to how Paul puts it. “In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, in accordance with the riches of God's grace that he lavished on us with all wisdom and understanding.
(Eph 1:7-9)
Mike D
#14
Posted 20 March 2003 - 12:17 AM
physical death.
Spiritual death is separation from God in this
life and eternity.
Physical death seals the fate of the spiritually dead.
Jesus Christ experienced physical death.
Jesus Christ experienced separation from His Father.
#15
Posted 20 March 2003 - 03:47 AM
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I am a sinner. I have knowingly sinned. I have sinned out of naivety. I continue to sin, without knowing what I have done. Because of my sin, I cause myself and others great sorrow and pain. Because of my sin, I deserve the punishment of sorrow, pain, and death. But because I am weak, I cannot overcome my sinful past, I cannot overcome my sorrow and pain, and most of all, I cannot overcome death. Without a saviour, I would suffer for eternity.
With incredible compassion and love, Jesus agreed to suffer my punishment for me. As He suffered my punishment, He showed me his suffering and death on the cross. As mankind, we watched Him shed his blood, we watched Him die. And He not only suffered for me, He was punished with a million and more deaths to save all of mankind. Only Jesus could overcome such pain and punishment. And as He died, Jesus asked God to forgive me! He suffered for my sins to free my soul.
_____Thank you Jesus!! Thank you for the gift of life. _____
#16
Posted 20 March 2003 - 12:18 PM
Jesus died for me. (Even though I know he died for everyone..) I think that it is the most awesome gift ever given to me or anyone else. I think about his sacrifice and I realize he suffered then for every sin I would commit in my lifetime...and it makes me sad to think even more than about being a sinner. But it makes me happy to know that I have an eternity to love him because of what he did for me...for you..for us all..past..present..and future....Thank you Jesus !
#17
Posted 20 March 2003 - 05:49 PM
This is a tough question. What is the punishment we deserve when we sin? It is to be seperated from God. There are also other consequences as well. Jesus suffered, he was rejected by man, punished for things He never did, He was crucified. I don't really know how to describe what I am thinking. Even though Jesus was God as man, I think he must have felt the seperation from God the Father at some point while he was on the cross, see Mark 15:34. In my opinion, this would be the Jesus bearing the ultimate punishment deserved by sinners. In His case, it would be even worse than we could possible imagine, since we are imperfect and do not have anywhere near the capacity for a relationship with God that Jesus has, how could we possibly imagine how He felt during that time? I don't think we can comprehend the how alone Jesus felt.
Thank you Lord Jesus!
#18
Posted 20 March 2003 - 08:47 PM
In the old Testament the priest interceded for the people and in the New Testament Jesus Christ intercedes for us. We could not stand the punishment we so rightly deserved. Jesus didn't cry out but took the punishment willingly until death.
#19
Posted 21 March 2003 - 04:07 PM
Pastor Ralph, on Feb 14 2003, 12:15 AM, said:
I was only 15 when I accepted Jesus Christ as my saviour. In my mind I didn't think I had that much to be forgiven of. I mean I was basically a good churching going kid who hadn't broken any of the 10 commandments as I knew them at the time. Then I realized that I had stolen a few comic books and I had disobeyed by parents numerous times and etc... the list went on. OK, so I had broken a few of the minor commandments, but I hadn't murdered or did drugs or slept around or anything else major. I wasn't that bad, and I did go to church alot so I figured that I was basically ok with God. Wrong again, God said that I deserved the death penalty for my sins right along with the murders sitting on death row. What a shock. Jesus Christ the Servant paid the price for my sins on the Cross at Calvary. I in turn thanked Him for that and accepted Him as my personal saviour. Several years later in college in committed my life to His service and was baptized in the San Marcos river. It has been a wonderful 19 years with Christ so far, and in faith I look forward to a life time of walking with Christ here on earth and an eternity of being with Him in heaven. Jesus definately beared the punishment due me when He died on the cross.
bjcollin@hotmail.com
http://www.rcclub.org/~bjcollin

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