Q2. Psalm 15. Who May Dwell with God?
#2
Posted 13 September 2007 - 02:57 PM
1) The Wisdom Psalms are meant to instruct us. How would you use this psalm in your family to instruct your children?
* To teach them: How important it is to dwell with the Lord in His House which is His covering over them and their place of prayer and worship.
* That as they grow in the Lord and in their daily life and as years go by to also dwell with Him in an attitude of prayer and worship
* That when they lack wisdom, seek it by prayer and be the word such as the Wisdom Psalms. There is always an answer from God, His words and ways.
* To always walk in love and to keep their word.
* Be honest and up front in what ever do
* Represent the Lord in all their ways and by their example many will see that the wisdom of God is what makes a man strong, smart and endure all things.
* It's strength in a person that will catch the eye of a man, like Samson
* That in studying the word of God they will learn that out of the heart a man speaks and that the issues of life flow's from the heart as well
* To be Blameless, Righteous, and Truthful
* To be stable in all their ways and this comes from living in His dwelling place
* Their main goal in life, is to live an eternal life with God
There is so much to tell and say to all you who come in contact with this list it could go on and on. I have truly found for my own life to apply His wisdom and truth to my daily walk and to reach that high calling in Christ Jesus. Heaven is my goal and He is my prize!
2) What topics of right living does it cover?
* Moral Integrity
* Blameless" (NIV, NRSV), "uprightly" (KJV) is tāmīm, from the verb tāmam, which carries the fundamental idea of completeness. Our word is used of animal sacrifices that are without blemish, as well as moral integrity, "whole, upright, perfect."
"Righteous" (NIV, KJV) or "right" (NRSV) is ṣedeq, from a root that basically connotes conformity to an ethical or moral standard.
"Truth" (’ĕmet), from a root which denotes firmness or certainty. The noun means "truth, faithfulness, verity ... with an underlying sense of certainty, dependability."
* Fairness to Neighbors
* Clear Allegiance
* Keeping One's Word
* Living without Greed
* "Like a tree planted by the water, I shall not be moved."
#3
Posted 15 September 2007 - 12:05 AM
To begin with as A Grandmother and a Parent. I would do my best to be an example to my children.
I would watch my conversation on the phone and in public where little ears are listening, If I am a gossip they will think it is O.K for them.
If I am a slanderer same thing.
If I am judging people so will they.
If I use profanity so will they.
If I am having a sexual relationship with some one so will they
What I am getting at we are to teach by example of how we live.
Instruct them by reading the word at an early age. Memorize the scriptures. what ever we tell them right from wrong show them what God's word says always with an attitude of love. Show them how Jesus was. Kindness, love, gentleness, teach them all people, are created by God no matter what the color or religion. Teach them to pray for those who are less fortunate than they are. Be generous with their caring and giving not only of material thing but of their kindness and time when able. The main thing is teach them to always be like Jesus. Be kind to one another. Laying oneself down for a brother or sister.
God calls His people to be morally upright. and in this psalm, He gives ten standards to determine how we are doing. We live among evil people whose standards and morals are eroding.
( 1 ) ( 15; 2) This person walks with intergrity, ( " blamelessly " ) Intergrity here does not mean sinless, but it does describe a person who by God's grace " sin less ". It refers to one who is whole complete, sound.
( 2 ) This individual does what is right ( 15: 2 ) The emphasis here is on doing what is righteous, rather that merely talking about it. Doing what is right and lawful and good and honest is pleasing to God, whether it be in private or public, in the church or in the office.
( 3 ) He speaks truth in His heart ( 15: 2 ) That is to say, there is correspondence between what he thinks on the inside and what he say on the out side. This person doesn't resort to hypocrisy, feigned praise, or flattery. He speaks the truth.
( 4 ) He does not slander with his tongue ( 15;3 ) The word "slander" literally means " to spy out", In the sense that one goes looking for things in the life of another to use against them.
( 5 & 6 ) are related. He does no evil to His neighbor ( 15: 3 ) Neither does he take up a reproach against his friend ( 15: 3 ) He refers to both intiating and rejoicing in gossip. The person of integrity will neither contribute to slander or gossip nor tolerate it.
( 7 ) This person is one in whose eyes a vile person is despised but who honors those who fear the Lord ( 15: 4 ).
( 8 ) He swears to his own hurt and does not change ( 15: 4 ) The NIV renders this, " He keeps his oath even when it hurts.!" His Honor is more important than his wallet. Integrity has no price tag
( 9 ) He does not put out his money at interest ( 15: 5 ) It was motivated by compassion.
1. A person of Moral Integrity fulfills hi/her promises. Being true to ones word, especially when doing so is costly( in terms of money, convenience, physical welfare, etc.) is a core characteristic of integrity.
2. A person of integrity speaks the truth, is honest and does not lie.
3. A person of integrity is a person of sincerity. That is to say, a person of integrity hates hypocrisy.
4. A person of integrity manifests a wholeness of character, including kindness, compassion, mercy, and gentleness.
5. A person of integrity is committed to the pursuit and mantenance of justice and fairness.
6. A person of integrity loves as, when,and what God loves
7. A person of integrity is humble. He/she shuns pride and haughtiness.
8. A person of integrity is law-abiding. He/ she plays by the rules, both in the bible and the law of the land.
9. A person of integrity is fundamentally altruistic. That is to say, they are committed not simply to laws and rules but to people.
10. A person of integrity manifests a high degree of consistency. That is to say, he/she is not always changing the principles on the basis of which they live, unless compelled to do so by the bible.
#4
Posted 15 September 2007 - 08:06 AM
Our greatest testimony to God's Grace in our lives contains no words whatsoever. It is presented in the way we choose to live our lives, how we reach out to our neighbours, how we react when we are wronged. We are free to preach morality, but it is our actions that will be remembered, and if our actions do not confirm what we preach, then both will be rejected by those we live with. The Psalms constantly remind us that is our actions not our words that are paramount, our words are soon forgotten, but our actions live on long afterwards.
By following the wisdom contained in the Psalms, and being ready to seek forgiveness both from others as well as God when we make a mistake, we show our moral values to our children and they are absorbed much more readily than any lecture. Showing compassion to those around us who are troubled teaches our children charity instead of greed and intolerance. In this day where instant gratification is regarded as the norm, it is important for our children to realise that 'helping someone' can be just as gratifying as any monetary reward. To understand that our reward may not be received until we stand before God at the very end of our lives teaches us patience and anticipation, earthly tributes are nothing when compared to this.
#5
Posted 15 September 2007 - 07:38 PM
I WOULD USE IT AS A PSALM THAT INSTRUCTS MY CHILDREN IN WHAT TYPES OF behavior GOD IS PLEASED WITH. IT COVERS THE TOPICS OF NOT LYING, GOSSIPING, OR BACK-STABBING ANYONE. IT ALSO SEEMS TO SAY IN VERSES 4 & 5 THAT WE SHOULD KEEP COMPANY WITH PERSONS WHO LIVE AS GOD WOULD HAVE THEM TO, SUCH AS, DOING UNTO OTHERS AS WE WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO US. THIS IS WHAT I THINK, BUT I'M A LITTLE MUDDLED ON THIS ONE AS FAR AS THE TOPICS.
***PERHAPS SOMEONE OUT THERE COULD GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT ON THE TOPICS OF RIGHT LIVING COVERED?
#7
Posted 15 September 2007 - 11:13 PM
To this Psalm add that righteous and moral integrity can be taught using both virtues and their opposite vices instructing that leaning toward the "mean" creates a balanced and forgiving nature.
- Such as Pride as a vice has it's opposite virtue, humility. Seeing ourselves as we are (or as God's sees us) rather than comparing ourselves to others is humility. Pride and vanity are competitive.
- Avarice/Greed is the vice and opposite virtue is generosity. This is about more than money. Generosity means giving credit (praise) where it is due without having expetations. Greed wants its fair share or more, generosity has no expectation of return.
- Envy with its counterpart virtue as love; love actively seeks good in others for their sake. Envy seeks unrighteous reward.
- Wrath or anger with a virtue of kindness: kindness is a tender approach and anger is often emotionally based and reactionary couple with impatience with the faults of others.
- **** versus self control: in self discipline (control) one makes a disciple of of oneself, seeking to master that which drains oneself both emotionally and spiritually. It's counterpart is self-destructive seeking pleasure out of proportion to its worth.
- Gluttony versus Faith and Temperance. Temperance accepts natural limits preserving natural balance. Gluttony seeks to have all of what it can find and to consume without regard of others.
- Sloth versus zeal. Zeal is an energentic response to the heart of God's commands. Sloth implies complacency, deadened spiritual senses slow to respond to God and spiritually asleep.
And to this add the Fruit of the Spirit: "The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control" (Gal 5:22-23).
What topics of right living does it cover?
Truth, honor, steadfastness, integrity, kindness, goodness, faithfulness.
Cheni
#8
Posted 16 September 2007 - 12:08 AM
***PERHAPS SOMEONE OUT THERE COULD GIVE ME A LITTLE MORE INSIGHT ON THE TOPICS OF RIGHT LIVING COVERED?
MS CJ has some very good points. If that will help you. Blessings to you>
#9
Posted 16 September 2007 - 12:43 AM
#10
Posted 16 September 2007 - 12:55 AM
#11
Posted 16 September 2007 - 08:23 AM
1). Psalm 15 presents a summary of what God expects of His people. It describes godliness in terms of character. The qualities extend to personal issues of integrity and honesty, our relationships with others and the way we handle our money. True happiness comes from looking at life from God`s perspective, which is often the reverse of the human point of view.
2). Teach them to read the word of God & memorize scriptures at an early age. Teach them to pray & always give priority to God in all the ways he does and live a holy, happy and Christlike ways. Bring them into adulthood with strong character and the ability to make wise choices & with an attitude of love & respect towards elderly & needy people. Teach them to be generous in caring and giving not only of material thing but of their kindness.
Be kind to one another and live in harmony with one another in peace and joy.
3). Right living covers truth, honesty honor, love, integrity, kindness, goodness & faithfulness.
#12
Posted 16 September 2007 - 10:52 AM
1. being honest: speak the truth in love.
2.golden rule: love one another that your joy may be full.
3. keep good company: when you play with pigs, you get dirty but they just are having fun.
4. keep your promises: we must be so careful what we say -- power of life and death is in the tongue
5. do not take advantage of others, especially someone who is poor "The Good Samaritan": if we care for those who are hurting and in need with no thought to repayment, we will be blessed
6. don't take bribes: use your authority wisely -- "do not govern as the gentiles do, who lord themselves over others -- we must be servant leaders"
#13
Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:33 AM
I think that it is a guide to how everyone should live. First desiring to live a life that will allow us to be in the presence of God. Second living a righteous life being kind to our neighbor not taking advantage of the poor. Third not being one to gossip about others but being tolerant to those who are not living as we think they should, but seeking to bring them to a realization of Christ.
It covers all the main topics righteousness, deceit, honesty, faith , and love of God and neighbor.
#14
Posted 17 September 2007 - 02:43 PM
#15
Posted 17 September 2007 - 03:45 PM
If I had children, using this Psalm I would instruct them on the characteristics of right living, highlighting areas of a righteous person who is careful in walking up rightly, having chaste conversation, being a person of integrity, a person who can be relied upon to stand by his word. I would teach them that as a Christian they are to love their neighbor and love them as they love themself, speaking kind words of them, rendering assistance wherever they can. They will also be taught to dispise evil but love all man.
#16
Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:15 PM
The first thought that came to my mind was - why not find 15 things from this Psalm 15 that can be used as a base for the growth of a child. Well here it goes:
1. Obey God's teaching
2. Walk blamelessly
3. Do what is right
4. Speak the truth
5. Don't slander
6. Be good to your neighbour
7. Be fair
8. Don't say bad things to others
9. Do not conform to evil ways
10. Make clear what you believe - make a stand although it may not be accepted by the society
11. Live by the word of God
12. Persevere
13. Don't cheat poor people
14. No bribes
15. Being righteous is rewarding
According to this Psalm, the righteous living include being ethical, fair, knowing and stating clearly who is our focus, ability to persevere while trying to live true to His words and putting the need of others ahead of oneself.
#17
Posted 17 September 2007 - 07:51 PM
Speaking truth from sincere hearts- I think I would look at the need of integrity between heart and mouth (out of the abundance of the heart…the mouth speaks) and the need to fill our hearts with what is good. I would also look at the power of the tongue- and how God created us not for unwholesome words but words that build up and impart grace (Eph 4)
Despising sinners- this is an interesting one! Oh the utter honesty of David! this is like what we saw at the end of Ps 139! I think I would use this as an opportunity to show the balance Jesus (and the NT) taught us: i.e. to love and pray for our enemies and yet to grieve over sin and its effects i.e. our hearts are to be broken over the things that break the heart of God i.e. blessed are those who mourn [over theirs and the world sinfulness!] (mat 5:4)
Again Jesus teaches if someone sins we are to show them their fault- and attempt to restore them not judge them (Mt 18). In Jude 1:23 we hear the absolute despising of sin yet the loving of the sinner see in Gal 6:1 and James 5:20 we see restoration is in mind not condemnation.
Honoring one another i.e. “the faithful followers of the Lord”, maybe looking at how we practically can show one another respect (Rom 12:10) i.e. preferring one another and treating one another as more important than ourselves
Keeping our word even when it is hard- I would use this time to encourage not making vows as Jesus taught, but to let our yes be yes
Lending to bless not to profit
Refusing bribes- not being influenced by various rewards to do what is wrong
Only speaking truthful testimony- To “testify against the innocent” must mean to lie (they are innocent!!!) lying can take many forms). We see an example of this with the false testimony the religious leaders created against someone completely innocent i.e. Jesus, they couldn’t fin fault so they had to create it!
#18
Posted 17 September 2007 - 11:19 PM
Topics of right living that the psalm covers is;
Backbiting
Doing something wrong to your neighbor
Speaking evil against your neighbor
Do not approve of those living in an ungodly way
But have the utmost respect for those who fear the Lord
Keep your word even if it hurts you in some way
Do not lend money expecting interest on it
Do not take bribes, the innocent always get hurt when you do
#19
Posted 18 September 2007 - 12:43 AM
I would teach them to love God with all their heart and all their soul. I would teach them to obey God's Words, follow his commandments, pray, build a relationship with God and live a righteous clean life using God's own words as a guide.
I would teach them to love every child of God and to think good things about them, never leave a man the way you found him, instead lifting him up. Never being judgemental, always loving and kind, always being responsible, truthful to God and to thyself. Building up rewards in heaven and not rewards on this earth. Following God's instructions on righteous living is the key to a true Christian lifestyle.
#20
Posted 18 September 2007 - 02:07 AM
Do the right things
Speak truth
Don't slander others
Do no wrong to your neighbor (and who is your neighbor?)
Use no slurs on fellow man
Don't be friends with/spend lots of time with vile men
Fear the Lord--obey Him
Keep your oaths
Lend money without usuary
Do not accept bribes against the innocent
We will not be shaken.....if we do these things!!

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