WinstonY Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Lesson 2 Question 3 Isaiah is a multi- layered book with interpretations possible for past present and future. All can be easily possible at the same time. The ancients did not necessarily see time as a linear function as we moderns do but they would have seen past, present and future all being some blend of each other as existence moved forward. For these eternal life would have a different meaning, perhaps a fuller meaning than we linear time converts. We in the Christian church interpret these verses from a Christological standpoint. It has just read in Isaiah 5 of the magnitude, wonder and glory of the Lord Yahweh. It can now be expected that this great and magnificent lord is capable of all things. The audience is also aware of the promise of a Messiah, so the reader or hearer waits in anticipation. With this Lord 'all things are possible.' The miracle of Gidden's miraculous victory at Midian has been recalled, the stage has been set skillfully for the arrival of the Son, born to “us”. This use of the pronoun us makes the reader or hearer part of the story and the story becomes ours. These verses are in a set of three parallel phrases upon newness. This child announced in the third parallel is a 'newness' in the experiences of the people and the Lord Yahweh. This new child born to us has all the attributes of God – Wonderful Councillor, Mighty God, Prince of Peace. In verse 7 there are three characteristics that speak of godliness; His authority shall grow continually - it has no limit; He will establish justice and righteousness- a tradition of prophetic tradition and His Kingdom will be for evermore- His power is for ever. We are also told in verse 2 that in the future Galilee will be honoured. This happened when Jesus moved to Capernium. Jesus, Himself, was convinced that he was the messiah, Christians do the same. Regardless of the attributes that are given here, Counsellor, God, Father, Prince of Peace I am interested mainly in the saving grace of God through this Messiah and for His Kingdom to come on Earth as it is in Heaven. WinstonY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonY Posted October 7, 2013 Report Share Posted October 7, 2013 Question 2 - 5 Jesse was the father of King David and the shoot of Jessie from the stump of Isaiah that had been axed by the Assyrians is being seen as a descendant of David or someone called by God that will rise to become the Messiah. This is an indicated by the attributes given to this sprout, the spirit of the Lord will rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord. The Christian community read these verses and, thinking christologically, they interpreted this as applying to Christ. In verses four and five, the qualities of the Messiah are given. In righteousness the poor are judged, He will decide with the meek and he will inflict harsh judgement on the wicked.. These are qualities which Jesus declares in Luke 4: 14 - 16. The poor and the oppressed are the victims here, the widows and orphans, the poor with no one to speak for them. When the kingdom of God descents in full as we pray every day than there will be a great ‘newness of creation' in which the lion will eat straw like the ox. This is a deep radical, limitless transformation in which we – like lion, wolf and leopard, will have no hunger for injury, no yearning for brutal force; no passion for domination which is seen by Paul in Romans 8: 19 - 23 (103. There will be a great reversal in fortunes between the oppressed and the oppressor just like the reversal of fortune between Lazarus and the Rich Man. Though the great chasm cannot be crossed, remember when the Lord Yahweh stretches out his arm all things are possible. Who would have thought of the results of the Syrian fast for peace. WinstonY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Jerry Posted October 14, 2013 Report Share Posted October 14, 2013 Jesse was David’s father. If you follow the ancestry of Jesus, it will lead you back to Jesse. The attributes that the Jesus will have due to the Spirit of God upon him is wisdom and understanding, counsel and might, knowledge and He will fear God. We learn that He will be a righteous judge and He will always be faithful. The one that seem to be victims of injustice and oppression are the poor and meek of the world. Those that were involved in the in justice will be killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akkjl Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Jesse, father of King David, the stump, and Jesus the branch on which peace and justice for all, including the poor and oppressed all nations, is who is written of here. The attributes of the Spirit: Wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, fear of the Lord, will not judge by appearances but of the heart, judge the needy of heart, full of righteousness and faithfulness Through the Spirit, he will judge the needy of heart, the unjust. The needy are those that appear to have the power, but only in an earthly way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akkjl Posted March 31, 2014 Report Share Posted March 31, 2014 Jesse, father of King David, the stump, and Jesus the branch on which peace and justice for all, including the poor and oppressed all nations, is who is written of here. The attributes of the Spirit: Wisdom, understanding, counsel, might, knowledge, fear of the Lord, will not judge by appearances but of the heart, judge the needy of heart, full of righteousness and faithfulness Through the Spirit, he will judge the needy of heart, the unjust. The needy are those that appear to have the power, but only in an earthly way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wifee Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 5a)Jesse was an Ephrathite from Bethleham in Judah,a man of apparently of wealth and position. Jesse was the son of Obed the son of Boaz. Jesse was old and advanced in years in Saull’s time& had 8 sons, the youngest of who was David. b)"A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit." (11:1)In 4:2The Branch refers to a Messaniac figure. The phrase stem of Jesse is used for the family of David. and phrase root of Jesse for the Messiah. Revelation speaks of Jesus as-The Root "The Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed." (Revelation 5:5)"I am the Root and the Offspring of David,and the bright Morning Star." (Revelation 22:16) c)As the Spirit of God rests on Him,He will have all the gifts need to lead people- full of the Spirit of wisdom and understanding,of counsel&power,of knowledge&fear of the Lord, he will in righteousness bring, hope,compassion &justice for the poor&needy .d)The Messiah is from the seed of the Davidic line,He will bear much fruit,and bring true justice for the poor,weak,powerless,and needy judging the hearts of people, countercultural to the world view that favours wealth,spohistication and power. e)The victims here are the poor&needy. f)When Messiah comes all those that are involved in injustice by actions,or in their thoughts will be judged,&punished slayed for their sin,rebellion against God,”Strike the earth with the rod of His mouth; with the breath of His lips He will slay the wicked”they will not know the joy of salvation&life eternal if they don’t repent&turn to Jesus for his mercy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoanG Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Jesse is the Father of the famous King David. Because the Messiah was to be a descendent of David, this would make his birth from the Root of Jesse. The Messiah will be wise and just. He will have great power. he will know the Father and he will do the will of the Father in all things. The poor and the weak will have no fear because he will protect them from all injustice. The wicked will be slain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissioned Posted February 7, 2016 Report Share Posted February 7, 2016 Q5. (Isaiah 11:1-5) Who was Jesse? How does his name indicate that this passage speaks of the Messiah? What attributes will he have due to the Spirit of God upon him? What do we learn about this Messiah from verses 4-5? Who seem to be the victims of injustice and oppression here? When the Messiah comes, what will happen to all who involve themselves in injustice? Jesse is the father of David. His name indicated his family lineage in the prophesy that from the Davidic line a new king will come. In Isaiah 11:11 the Davidic messiah is called "the root of Jesse." Due to the Spirit resting upon Him he will be filled with wisdom and understanding. He will be a minister of counsel and possessing mighty power. The Messiah will also have complete knowledge of and fear of the LORD. As Messiah He will not judge based on natural instinct, human knowledge or using the senses that man uses. He will judge with righteousness giving the needy and the poor fair and just decisions. It seems that the poor and needy are the candidates fr mistreatment and injustice. But the Messiah will see to it that they get justice and those who render injustice will be judged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcelle Posted February 11, 2019 Report Share Posted February 11, 2019 Jessie was the father of David. Our king was proclaimed as having come from the root of Jessie, the root of David. The Messiah was said to have wisdom, understanding, counsel, power, might and the knowledge and reverence of God. The Messiah is an ever powerful force that will eliminate the evil in the world. The poor and needy are victims of injustice and oppression. The unjust will not see the kingdom of heaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RebeccaL Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 Jesse was David’s father. This passage refers to the Branch, indicating the Messiah, who is beautiful and glorious. The oppressed, the broken-hearted, the captives and the prisoners. When the Messiah comes the wicked will experience His judgement and wrath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray B Posted June 24, 2020 Report Share Posted June 24, 2020 Q5. (Isaiah 11:1-5) Who was Jesse? The father of King David. How does his name indicate that this passage speaks of the Messiah? "I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star." (Revelation 22:16) "In that day the Branch of the LORD will be beautiful and glorious, and the fruit of the land will be the pride and glory of the survivors in Israel." (Isaiah 4:2) What attributes will he have due to the Spirit of God upon him? "2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him --the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,the Spirit of counsel and of power,the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD-- 3 and he will delight in the fear of the LORD." (11:2-3a) What do we learn about this Messiah from verses 4-5? That God's justice and righteousness is upheld by Christ Jesus, he knows the Father's value system and he too shall walk in righteousness. Who seem to be the victims of injustice and oppression here? The weak and the poor. When the Messiah comes, what will happen to all who involve themselves in injustice? The wicked shall be slayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dove81 Posted December 18, 2022 Report Share Posted December 18, 2022 Who was Jesse? Jesse is the father of David. God promised David that his kingdom would be ever lasting. 2 Samuel 7:12. How does his name indicate that this passage speaks of the Messiah? A new branch bearing fruit from an old tree (the lineage of David). He will have the Spirit of the Lord on Him. The Spirit of wisdom and understanding. He will give justice to the poor and make fair decisions for the exploited. The whole earth shall shake at the force of His word. What attributes will he have due to the Spirit of God upon him? He will have the Spirit of knowledge and fear of the Lord. The Spirit of wisdom and understanding and the Spirit of counsel and might. What do we learn about this Messiah from verses 4-5? He will give justice to the poor and make fair decisions for the exploited. The earth will shake at the force of His word and one breath from His mouth will destroy the wicked. He will wear righteousness like a belt and truth like an undergarment. Who seem to be the victims of injustice and oppression here? The poor and weak, they’ve been oppressed and He has come to free them. When the Messiah comes, what will happen to all who involve themselves in injustice? He will judge them accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krissi Posted April 8, 2023 Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 Jesse was part of the lineage of Christ. I find it interesting that the Old Testament makes such a big deal of Jesus' genetic heritage. Since Jesus had no children, genealogy stops in the New Testament although many Christians (Catholic) trace the non-genetic lineage of Popes to Peter. Pastor Ralph lists six attributes of the Messiah imparted by the Spirit: wisdom, understanding, counsel, power, knowledge of God, fear of God. Although some passages in the Bible specifically remind us to care for the weak, poor and isolated in our society, the Bible seems most focused on powerful leaders and geopolitical forces. The focus on those who are politically/socially persecuted or left behind is much more of a New Testament ideal than an Old. When the Messiah comes, He will slay the political leaders who are corrupt and oppressive. No country is exempt from His judgment. The injustice perpetuated by the leaders of historically Christian countries will be judged just as those done by the leaders of non-Christian counties. I pray that the people who have not participated in the egoistic crimes of their leaders are spared this pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crissy464 Posted May 17, 2023 Report Share Posted May 17, 2023 Jesse was David’s father. A stump will come up from JessieIt says “from his roots a branch will bear fruit”, the Messiah is called the Branch The Messiah will be anointed by the spirit, and walk in the fullness of the spirit. Poor and the needy Christ will right all wrongs, bring Justice slay the wicked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna Rogers Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 Who was Jesse? Jesse is the father of David. How does his name indicate that this passage speaks of the Messiah? All through the Old Testament it is revealed that Jesus would come from the line of David. Genesis 49:10 " The scepter shall not depart from Judah," Jesse is from the tribe of Judah. Micah 5:2 "... Judah, Yet out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel." In Revelation 22:16 this is affirmed. Jesus states " I am the Root and the Offspring of David.." What attributes will he have due to the Spirit of God upon him? He will have the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, The Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord What do we learn about this Messiah from verses 4-5? Jesus will judge the poor with righteousness, and decide for the meek with equity. He doesn't give the rich and powerful better judgments than the poor as man is prone to do. Who seem to be the victims of injustice and oppression here? The poor and the meek. People that strong rich people can overrun. When the Messiah comes, what will happen to all who involve themselves in injustice? "And with the breath of His lips He shall slay the wicked." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted April 15 Report Share Posted April 15 Jesse was David's father and from David comes the lineage of the Messiah. the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord. The Messiah will not judge by what He hears and sees but with justice and equity. The wicked will be destroyed and the oppressed will be judged with justice. As a side note, while reading this particular passage regarding the destroying of the wicked, I was reminded of Psalms 51 with the prayer that wickedness be destroyed in me... blot out my transgressions. 2 Wash me thoroughly from my iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin! Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean; wash me, blot out all my iniquities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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