Q2. Physical birth, suffering, and resurrection

[sahala p.s.]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

Because the faith of Christianity is only based on the acknowledgement that Jesus has come in the flesh having physical birth, physical suffering, and resurrection.

If Christ hadn

[linda bass]

Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth,physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body?

Only by coming to earth and taking on a physical body could Jesus know what it was like to be tempted by sin. Sin entered mankind because a physical man, Adam, disobeyed God. Only a perfect, sinless physical man, Jesus, could take on the physical suffering to atone for sin. The resurrection of Jesus' physical body emphasizes His victory over sin and death. Because Jesus rose from the dead, as Christians we can have the confidence that we, also, will someday rise from the dead.

How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

If Christ hadn't become fully human, Christianity would be just another religion. Our faith would be in vain.

[kas]

We wouldn't have the perfect mediator who was tempted in every way and yet did not sin. In this way He is able to help us as He went through everything. We can identify with someone who is our own more than some entity. We could say "well Jesus you weren't in human form, how do you know what it's really like" and we would doubt His ability to help us. We also know that the accuser would be saying "Hey! you missed a spot!"

[care2hope2]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

I feel that Christianity insists on a physical body , suffering and resurrection because God had in

the old testament insisted on the physical offering of the sacrifice during the animal sacrifices and

The God who loves us gave his son as the ultimate sacrifice it was a human sacrifice and no ordinary

human would be able to tolerate the suffering and death and resurrect alos. God gave Jesus to be

born human in order to experience human existance to know fully what humans go thru and then he

was able to understand why he must surrer die and resurrect to fulfill the pland of God that had

existed since man's sin in the garden. This was God's promis to man that he would provide a way

to end the sin and have man become reconciled. in genesis he says he will someday have a plan

that will free man from sin. I do not knowthe verse right now. but will look it up.

[unclebob]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

Because to have evryone believe is the way to have the Spirit of God. We need to acknowledge and faithfully believe in the actual crucifixion of Jesus Christ and not that it was a symbol of action taken. It is authenticated. If the acknowledgement is made by a human being the person has the Spirit of the Lord. If the person does not have the acknowledgement of Jesus than this person does not have everlating life and the Spirit of the Lord.

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

2nd part of question:

Mainly because this is what I have been taught and faithfully believe in the actual total body experience of Jesus being crucified. All that I can speculate is that I believe the world would be a lot worse than it presently is.

I honestly thank GOD for the actual crucifixion of Jesus Christ for the good of thw world and also faithfully believing and acknowledge this, that I am able to live today, day by day knowing that I have the Spirit of God. PRAISE GOD

[shalom98@rogers.com]

1. Why does christianity insist on a physical birth, physicial suffering, and a ressurrection of a physical body?

2. How would it be different if Christ didn't offer himself in this physical way?

I believe that if Jesus Christ went to the cross in the form of God only, then he would not be able to identify

with physical suffering of mankind to suffer in the flesh and know the pain involved. "He likewise took part of the same that through death, He might destroy him that hathe the power of death, that is the devil , who held

man in bondage to death". The physical suffering demonstrated that He felt all the pain that man could know.

Jesus , by His resurrection, gave us confidence that this physical life is not the end of all, but assured us that

the Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead, would also quicken our mortal bodies to a new life.

If Christ didn't offer himself in a physical way, then I believe we would not have seen it as a sacrifical death and idenification with those who would follow Him, simply because He would be dying in a spiritual sense only.

[ElizabethTX]

Without the living Christ we are nothing. At the time of Christ's baptism, those present at the event saw and heard the Father, Son and Holy Spirit all at the same time, separate but functioning together as a complete deity ruling heaven and earth. Christ prayed for and brought about Their plan to reclaim man. Their purpose is One in the same and Their plan works on earth as it does in heaven. Christ is the First Born of God here on this earth. We are His brothers and sisters when we believe and confess Jesus Christ is our Savior and the Way. Believers are born of God through Jesus Christ our Lord by dying in the flesh and giving our lives over to Him and obeying the Holy Spirit. Jesus Christ has completed God's plan for our salvation, has made us One with the Trinity and we complete God to worship in Spirit. King of Kings. Christ is King of heaven and earth and we are His Kings. This is our purpose and this is the life we are meant to live here on earth by believing and confessing Jesus is our living Lord and Savior.

When I was a child and Catholic, I was a ritual oriented, not understanding the meaning, but never the less feeling God's holy presence. The sign of the cross always perplexed me. Why did the Holy Ghost have two locations on the cross? Maybe someone can enlighten me. As a child, I always thought there should only be one, just like God and Son. Then, in later years, I thought that perhaps it is only one and the other location was meant for us to complete the cross...Father, Son, Holy Ghost and Man. Hope I did not offend anyone. God bless and protect.--Newbie in Christ

[Debra]

Jesus Christ is God in the flesh, is to come and always will be God in the flesh. When the son of God entered humanity, He took the human condition into himself and doing that ; He purified humanity redeemed it and gave it eternal fellowship with God the father. As a human, He took all human sin and corruption on himself and through His crucifixion and death all human sin and corruption has found it's end.

[olori]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

Just as sin entered into the World by man, Adam, the first man, then Christ had to enter as a human and die in the body to take on the sins of the world. He became sin, and died on the cross for our redemption. It had to be a living blood sacrifice, animals could not do it, and a spirit does not have blood. Christ was tempted by every temptation that we are tempted by. Yet He is sin free. He know what we go through when we are tempted, which makes him the perfect High Preist.

I think, perhaps the gentile would not have been brought in as a child of God, and the religion would be much as it was in the Old Testiment. The Jewish people would still be making sacrifices. And we would still be waiting for the Mesiah to come. We would not have the hope, or the promises that God gave us. We would still be lost sinners. For the Bible tells us sin can only be forgiven with blood.

[Commissioned]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body?

Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body of Jesus' because to believe otherwise is heresy, it is antichrist.

How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

If Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition we would not have such an example as he left with us. We too can live without sin, we can be strong and not fall into temptation and we can command the devil to flee and he will. In our supplications to Him we are assured that he is acquainted with our physical experiences and can comfort and help us.

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Hebrews 4:15 (KJV)

[Craig]

Christianity insists on a physical birth, physical suffering and a resurrection of the physical body to emphasize that what Jesus Christ did in His minisry, trial, punishment, death upon the cross, and resurrection were real and not symbolic.

If Jesus did not enter fully into the human condition, He would not be the perfect sacrifice or the perfect High Priest. He would not be able to identify with us. Therefore some of His and the Apostles claims and promises would be void.

[AngelOnLine]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body?

So we could identify with what He did for us.

How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

We would be lost souls, forever lost in our sins.

[Jewell]

It is the physical birth, suffering and resurrection of the physical body that fulfills scripture. It is the sacrifice that released us from sin.

If he had not entered the human condition, he would not have died on the cross for our sins. The curtain between us and God would still be there - God being accessible only through the high priest. We would not have his teachings, his parables to learn from, or his love.

[open2itall]

I feel I

[servant for Christ]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

Because that testifies of God's Word and our belief in it. Sin was entered by man and only a Spirit man could atone for our sins, one that was blameless and sinless. If Christ had not come we would be believing in false doctrine and have no hope of eternal life. Our sins would not be forgiven.

[WALT39]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

1 John 4:2-3 - This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? We must acknowledge that Jesus was both divine/human. In order for Him to be able to be sacrificed for our sins, He had to become a physical human being from being born a baby to dying as a man. He had to experience physical suffering so we would accept Him as a human. Only if He died as a human, could he be resurrected and truly show His divinity.

How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition? We would not be able to experience eternal life and be with Jesus for ever. We would not be Christians and we would be just plain Gentiles.

[PASTOR D]

Jesus came to earth in a physical body to redeem mankind that had rebelled against God. . . Redemption of physical man had to be performed by a physical man - not a spiritual being. . .

There would be nothing to demonstrate to us that we in our physical body could actually follow the example set by Jesus who live a sinless life in total obedience to God in the flesh. . . Hebrews 4:15-16 (NLT)

15 This High Priest of ours understands our weaknesses, for he faced all of the same testings we do, yet he did not sin.

16 So let us come boldly to the throne of our gracious God. There we will receive his mercy, and we will find grace to help us when we need it most.

Hebrews 2:16-18 (NLT)

16 We also know that the Son did not come to help angels; he came to help the descendants of Abraham.

17 Therefore, it was necessary for him to be made in every respect like us, his brothers and sisters, so that he could be our merciful and faithful High Priest before God. Then he could offer a sacrifice that would take away the sins of the people.

18 Since he himself has gone through suffering and testing, he is able to help us when we are being tested.

[Marloes]

He had to be fully human.

Otherwise He would not have been able to feel our feelings.

And He could not have been a good sacrifice.

[hanks]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3)

Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body?

As Christians we acknowledge the full humanity and full deity of our Lord. In this world, physical birth is real, and Jesus really was born; physical suffering is real, and Jesus really did suffer; death is real, and Jesus really did die. None of this was symbolic. In the end He conquered death by His resurrection.

How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

We know that Jesus Christ always has been, is, and will be the Son of God. He came from heaven to redeem his people, and to do this He took upon himself our humanity, but still remained truly divine. He had promised that after His death He would rise from the dead on the third day. If this did not occur then He would be an imposter, and not worthy of our trust. Our faith would be dead; for if the resurrection of our Lord Jesus Christ had not occurred there would be no salvation. But we know our Lord did rise bodily from the dead and He did ascend in His glorified body to heaven. We also know that He will return at God's appointed day in the same body in which he ascended.

[Foofee's Nana]

Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

These are the very corner stones of our faith....God came and was made flesh for us.....He was born in a physical birth to a virgin....so even at the beginning He came into this world as we have....with humanity and it s faults and also its dreams . He was God made into man so that He really knew what we go through, how could a perfect advocate be such unless He understood ??? He willingly went to the cross for us.....died a human physical death on the cross. But praise God He was raised for the dead on the third day. He paid the price in full for us.....we do not have to keep making payments to keep our end of the bargain. All we must do is believe and accept Him as our Lord and Savior.

[Kerneydr]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? As humans we live on a physical world. Humans physically sinned and it affected every part of human life. In order for redemption to be valid it needed to happen where the problem was -- in the physical world -- it couldn't merely be symbolic or spiritual.

How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition? Since Christ did become fully human and one who understood suffering at that, He can relate to mankind all the way -- He knows what it is like to suffer pain, be rejected, and all the experiences we have as humans. If Christ had not laid aside His deity and become fully human, there would not be the close connection we have with Him.

[jacquie7]

The insistence of a physical birth, suffering, and resurrection of the physical body is imperative in that anything other than this is false and not of God.  Jesus, (both the Son of Man (human) and the Son of God (deity) came to earth in a physical body, suffered as a man in His physical body, and was resurrected in His physical body.  Since it was man who sinned, it had to be a man who would redeem humanity back to relationship with the Father.  Our faith would not be in Jesus or what He did on the cross if He had not come in the form of a man.  Jesus had to be able to relate to humanity just as the high priest related (not necessarily kin) to the Israelites when he went into the Most Holy Place to atone for their sins on the Day of Atonement. 

 

 

[tgandy]

Jesus, was born to Mary.  He was born human, yet He was divine.  A physical birth, physical suffering and physical resurrection of the body makes Him in many ways more special.  He was human.  He felt pain, love, and He wept.  But He was God. God also felt these emotions.  He knows how we feel because he walked among us and lived and breathed, ate, and suffered like we do.  But he rose from the dead like the divine part.  This is my religion.  He knows how I feel and gives me something to hold on to like life after death.  If Christ were not human and all these things happened to him, we would wonder if  we have something to look forward to after death or does only the divine only have this to look forward to.

[JoanG]

Christianity is based on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ. We need to know that Jesus was human. We need to know that He knows what it is like to be one of us.

 

It is easy for one to give advice and suggest ways of living when they have no clue what is really happening. You can just take so much advice from someone who never had children when you are up all night for the third night in a row with a sick child.

 

It would be the same thing with a highly spiritual being coming to this world to teach us how to live. We would probably all agree that the lessons were great, even ideal. But we would just write them off as a goal but not reall good for every day living. We being humans are great as doing things as we always did because it is easy and it is well known, even if it does not work as well.

[Debra Grant]

Q2. (1 John 4:2-3) Why does Christianity insist on a physical birth, physical suffering, and a resurrection of the physical body? How would our faith be different if Christ hadn't fully entered the human condition?

 1. So that we would be made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all." God was not pleased with burnt offerings and sin offerings. Jesus is a Living body and not an idol. If Jesus didn’t die for our sins, there would not have been a resurrection for us. 

 2. We would be under the law whereas we suffer from not being truly forgiven because the law was weak. I believe our faith would wonder at times and we could possibly begin to serve an idol. We would not have redemption with God. There would have not been a great salvation. Our faith would be weak and possibly not grow much. We would not know what true faith is.