masika Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? Jesus was born without the sin that entered the world through Adam. He was born Holy. Jesus Christ, God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Moultrie Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? The virgin conception teaches us that Jesus is divine in nature; in fact, He is God manifested in the flesh, conceived by the Holy Spirit. The doctrine of the virgin conception is very central to the Christian message because it is a main basis for the Christian's belief that Jesus Christ is indeed the son of God and also God himself. Mind Boggling! But because we have faith in the Bible as the "inspired Word of God", then WE BELIEVE! +++DURING THIS SEASON OF ADVENT, LET ALL OF GOD'S PEOPLE REMEMBER TO THANK HIM FOR THE BIRTH OF OUR SALVATION+++ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? The virgin conception was the product of a non-sexual union between God Almighty and Mary -- divine and human -- via the Holy Spirit. As a result Jesus was both divine and human. The doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message is central because it gones back to Genesis 3:15 where God told the serpent that out of the seed of Woman would come one that would crush satan's head. Isaiah prophesied the Christ would be born of a virgin. The virgin conception is the fulfillment of Biblical prophesy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sally7857 Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 The virgin conception means that the Holy Spirit came over Mary, in the same way that the Holy Spirit came over the desciples in the Upper Room at Pentecost. Mary was human, that is where Jesus got his humaness. He is fully God and fully human. Dr Wilson states in one paragraph that Jesus was human-divine. Mary's pregnancy and then the divine birth of Jesus was meant as a miracle. Jesus was the biological offspring of God and Mary. The virgin conception is very central to the christian message. Without Jesus coming to earth as a human, and being fully human and divine, and then dieing on the cross for our sins, there would be no christianity at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helen Williams Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the christian message? The virgin conception teaches us that Jesus is holy. There is none other like it. The doctrine of the virgin conception is very important to the christian message becasue if you don't believe it you don't believe in Jesus. This is fulfilled prophecy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Mary is human, but her child, conceived by the Holy Spirit, is "holy" in the same sense that God himself is holy. What's more, this human-divine child will be called the Son of God. Jesus the Son of God needed to walk the earth in the flesh telling all the existence of his father. He also needed to die on the cross for our sins to be forgiven, this had to be done in the flesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegi Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? The Holy Spirit will come upon you: This is a direct declaration of Jesus divine conception. The association of the Spirit with power is frequest for Luke. The child's conception means He is uniquely set apart, the Holy One, a phrase which is here not so much a title as a description of Jesus' sinless nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macygrover Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 it teaches us that god can do anything. if we want a kid and we beening trying to have a kid jesus/god will help and make that possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn Rivington Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 The virgin conception was the result of the Holy Spirit working within Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia A Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janpa Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 The virgin conception was the result of the Holy Spirit working within Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia A Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature?Mary is human, but her child, conceived by the Holy Spirit, is "holy" in the same sense that God himself is holy. What's more, this human-divine child will be called the Son of God. It is quite clear that Luke intended for us to see this pregnancy and birth as a divine miracle, and the child as the biological offspring of God and Mary. How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? This doctrine is most central to the Christian message. God came in the form of a human to save us from our sins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calgunna Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Mary's conception was miraculous and allows us to see that all things are possible with God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAFWEMBE Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? That Our Lord Jesus Christ is God because he was conceived by God Himself. That He is Holy because His Father is Holy. Since the Holy Spirit that conceived Him was from the Father there is a very close relationship with God and Jesus, hence befitting the name "Son of God." The Christian message is that God came to His people through the Holy Spirit but was born as a man in order to relate to us in the human form and show us how to live a Holy life in the flesh. This could only be if the concemption was by the Holy Spirit Himself otherwise if He was born by the seed of man then he would not have been Holy because he would have been contaminated by sin, since man is utterly sinful without exception. I think this is a fundamnetal principle for our Christian faith! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheastarr Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? It teaches us that Jesus is God in human form! He was conceived by supernatural means to a human. It shows us that Jesus is the Lord, the one true Son of God, and He came to fulfill the prophecies of the old testament. It is central to the Christian message because of the fact that Jesus is the Son of God. Because Mary was a virgin we can't dispute the supernatural power of Jesus' conception. It is the point that shows us who Jesus is - He is Lord! Because Jesus being born of a virgin scripture is fulfilled which shows us that the Word is a true account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? The nature of Yeshua is the presence and power of God with us. Yeshua is-God in human form, Holy, Mighty, the Anointed One, the Son of God. In the Transfiguration God showed that Yeshua is His one and only son, superior even to the two great Old Testament figures, Moses and Elijah. God's voice speaking from the cloud, which marked God's presence. The disciples heard that Yeshua was God's beloved Son, the chosen one with whom He was well pleased. How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? First, we must have "faith" in God Almighty and in His words spoken to us, "the Holy Ghost came upon Mary," therefore the Son of God would be holy. If we do not believe God's word, we are a people who have no hope. It is a central part of my "faith" in God Almighty. He spoke it and I believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patsy Laycoax Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 The virgin conception teaches us that Jesus nature is sinless even though He was human because He was also divine. He was not made but begotten of God through the power of the Holy Spirit. He did not have a human biological father. He is not similar to God but God in the flesh! Therefore He has a perfect,sinless nature! The doctrine of the virgin conception is very central to the christian message,without it we have no message! That doctrine is what christianity is based upon. Jesus had to be conceived and born of a virgin so as not to inherit man's sinful nature. He had to be perfect and sinless to pay the penalty for our sins. Someone with sins of their own could not pay for sin and the only person who is sinless is God. So Jesus was God in the flesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisa Rupert Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? The virgin conception teaches us that Jesus is the divine being joined with human. Mary's child was conceived by the Holy Spirit and is holy and was born the Son of God. This message was a fullfillment of Prophesy, God's own words brought into truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAJU Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? The seed Jesus is holy , undefiled - , unblemished and seperate is what we learn . The virgin birth is the foundation of our Christian faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SojournersHeart Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 The virgin conception is one of the hardest of the Christian truths to accept, but also one that is quite central to all we believe about Jesus Christ. When I talk to kids in our children's ministry about Christ's divine and human natures, often they will say Jesus was "half and half"--half divine and half human. Even the youngest with only rudimentary math skills understand that 2 halves make a whole. So when I correct them and say that Jesus was "whole and whole" they are so puzzled! How is it that where Christ is concerned 1+1=1? (Similar to trinity math: 1+1+1=1) Jesus had to come from a human mother to be fully human; and to be the sufficiency of Divine Grace, He had to be fathered by God. He had to suffer real human pain; and He had to die a real human death--this was achieved by being fully human. Yet His divine nature enabled Him to endure it without turning to the false comforts of sin, and He was able to die as an innocent rendering the sacrifice fully effective. If one cannot accept the virgin conception, how can one accept the divinity of Christ? If one cannot accept the divinity of Christ, how can one accept the efficacy of Grace? Our faith lives or dies by the belief in the virgin conception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SojournersHeart Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Jesus is not human - In the past, folks have been burned at the stake for statements like that! Look at John 1:14, Philippians 2:6-7 and Colossians 2:9; Jesus was both fully human and fully divine, as our Nicene fore-fathers found it necessary to state unequivocally as official church doctrine: "For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven, was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary and became truly human." --Nicene Creed If Jesus had not been fully human, He could not have suffered and died. Christ's very human death is as essential to our doctrine of salvation as his divine, sinless nature and vindication through resurrection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaitlin Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 The virgin conception teaches us that Jesus is more than just human. Jesus is, as the Nicene Creed states, "...very God of very God...being of one substance with the Father..." Yet because Mary is His mother, we must not say that he is not human, and that He was only God. Out faith hinges upon the necessity of Jesus being 100% God AND 100% man, as SojournersHeart said. Expounding on that, I have found a good way to visualize this seeming impossibility is to picture a smaller box inside a larger box. If both boxes are open on top, and the larger one is filled, the smaller one will be filled as well, because it is contained inside. This is also much like submersing a cup in a large, water-filled pan in the sink. Is the smaller container 100% full? Yes. Is the larger container 100% full? Equally so. The capacity of the smaller in less, thus 100% is only part of the larger container's 100%. While in some aspects, this analogy does not work as well, such as God's sinlessness and humanity's free-will/disposition to sin, it seems to help me begin to comprehend this concept a bit easier. The doctrine of the virgin conception and birth are quite central to Christianity. In fact, they are essential. Even at the surface level, if these doctrines were proved false, they would make God out to be a liar, because He has given these doctrines to us as truth. Upon deeper consideration, it becomes evident that if Jesus was not 100% God and 100% man, we would have no hope of salvation. If Jesus was only one or the other, there would be no reconciliation of God and man--no possibility of finding a worthy sacrifice to bear more than his own personal sin. If Jesus was only human, He could have only paid for His own sins. If Jesus was only God, He would not have been a compatible sacrifice for the sins of humanity. I say this, not to disprove these things, but for us to gain a realization of the seriousness and desperate necessity of the solution found in the virgin birth. From this, I realize that I must come to see this miracle in all its profound, miraculous, yet simple and humble beauty. I am amazed and in thanks and praise to God, who would do such a thing, to come to a world of pain, time, and limitations, in order to save us, the very ones who's sin crucified Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus' spoiled girl Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? it teaches us that Jesus is Holy and that He is the Son of God or in other words God Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 That ALL things are possible through HIM.(JESUS). That if you trust in God, He will guide you through whatever , so long as you have the FAITH to believe and give all of yourself to Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindajellis57 Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Q3. (Luke 1:35) What does the virgin conception teach us about Jesus' nature? How central is the doctrine of the virgin conception to the Christian message? The virgin birth proves Jesus was divine and human without blemish. The virgin birth is the 1st miracle of Christianity. It connects the triumvirate, God, Jesus and the Hoy Spirit as one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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