Q5. Sin and Righteousness

[anne1151]

Q5. (1 John 3:3-10) How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers? What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

1.He gives you a way to identify false teachers, by their actions and words. If they do not do what is right, do not love their brothers, they are not child of God and you should not heed their words.

2. False teachers minimize sin, the need to be always woking against sin, praying for forgiveness, trying to live in Gods way. Their words are not true, not in the Bible. Old testament, new testament, today at this moment, false teachers are to be found thruout history.

[Ramon]

Q5. (1 John 3:3-10) How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers? What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

Answer:

With Due Respect Dr. Ralph, I beg to disagree with your statement:

This is the ongoing process of sanctification. While the process may seem slow, it goes on incessantly. Praise God that we are saved by grace, not by the degree of sanctification that is presently accomplished in our lives!

We are saved by Grace,and GRACE is JESUS CHRIST

[servant for Christ]

John is telling us that we have to acknowledge sin, deal with it, and repent of it. The Holy Spirit, God's mercy and grace is there to help. The false teachers were saying that sin didn't matter. You could live and do as you please. We all are sinners but made righteous by the blood of Jesus Christ.

[Deborah Eberhard]

How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers?

We have to stay on guard and cannot think it is okay to sin just because Jesus came and died for our sins. True, we are forgiven, but we cannot forget the blood shed for that forgiveness. We need to keep watch of those around us that will continue to convince us that its okay to sin, because we are human and will continue to sin. We need to remember that we have the seed planted within us, and that seed will continue to prevent us from sinning.

What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

They thought it was okay to continue living in sin and that because they were forgiven did not need to necessarily lead righteous lives. John warned us that Christ will be returning and will be our final judge, and that He will judge according to our acts.

[jacquie7]

John’s teaching in this passage tells us not to be led astray by the teachings of false doctrines. He tells us that righteous living is vital in a believer’s life and those who live as such are children of God, those who don’t live a righteous life, are not children of God. The false teachers seemed to be denying God’s divinity, and the basic doctrines and truths about Christ being the Son of God the Father and the fact that He died for our sins and was raised from the dead. False teachers and their messages put the faith of some believers’ danger of believing the false doctrines that they taught. We must not abandon the basic truths about Jesus and who He is, what He did on the Cross, that He rose from the grave, and lives today.

[Craig]

Q5. (1 John 3:3-10) How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers? What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

In sum, the false teachers John was combating were teaching that sin in the flesh really didn't matter because the flesh to begin with was evil. The spiritual had no connection with the flesh and therefore fleshly sin didn't matter. John maintained that it did matter. The visible is a reflection of invisible. A physical righteous walk in this world is a reflection of the spiritual state of the person and his relationship with the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

Righteous, holy, and Godly living are a visible witness to the world of the believer's walk with the living God and all that goes with it. A lawless, worldly person's actions reflect and are a visible witness to his/her relationship to the world and satan and all that goes with it.

[Guitar Jim]

Q5. (1 John 3:3-10) How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers?

 

The false teachers taught that it doesn't matter if you sin. Your mortal body will die eventually and your spirit will go to be with God. John opposes that teaching with the assertion that if you continue in wilful sin then you aren't a true child of God. John's words here, as Pastor Ralph says, set the highest possible standard but we shouldn't become too discouraged by reading them.

It's like the sales manager who every morning holds a sales meeting and tells his salesmen to get out there and sell! . Sell!! . . SELL!!!!

Yeah OK boss, but what if nobody's buying? He doesn't want to hear that, but it's true nonetheless.

So it is with us. There will be setbacks and John acknowledges that earlier in the letter when he tells us that if we do sin, Jesus is right there to intercede with us. What John writes about here in this passage is the ideal, the perfection for which we should all strive.

 

 

 

What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

 

The false teachers taught that all flesh is evil and so you might as well go for it and sin your guts out. They taught that it's what's in your heart that counts and not your day to day attempts at righteous living. That teaching flies in the face of not only John's teaching but Paul's and Peter's as well. Paul especially spent much time explaining how the flesh is a war with the new life, the Spirit-filled life. After all we still inhabit the tent of the flesh.

 

[Old Jerry]

The way that John is teaching us on sin and righteousness in this passage help us to combat false teaches by telling us that if we are truly God’s people then we will not want to sin. We have the Holy Spirit to guide us where the false teachers are trying to tell us that we have no hope. That it is ok to sin because if we have a loving father he is willing to forgive them.

[wifee]

5a)John wanted to show importance of sin,that anyone who lives unrighteously,ignores the work of the Spirit in us gradually cleansing us of our sins when we repent, is a lawbreaker,as sin is lawlessness,rebellion against God authority saying what is wrong &what is right.

 

b)False teachers were watering down the gospel,heretically denying sin and it’s importance,saying it was trivial,merely an act the result of an attitude. They taught being saved only importance, not our responsibility to follow out of thanks&praise for His grace,purity and authority,his commands on how to live,putting self before other people and God repenting our current sins when we fail,to receive his ongoing forgiveness &asking Spirits help to not go there again.

 

[wifee]

5a)John wanted to show importance of sin,that anyone who lives unrighteously,ignores the work of the Spirit in us gradually cleansing us of our sins when we repent, is a lawbreaker,as sin is lawlessness,rebellion against God authority saying what is wrong &what is right.

 

b)False teachers were watering down the gospel,heretically denying sin and it’s importance,saying it was trivial,merely an act the result of an attitude. They taught being saved only importance, not our responsibility to follow out of thanks&praise for His grace,purity and authority,his commands on how to live,putting self before other people and God repenting our current sins when we fail,to receive his ongoing forgiveness &asking Spirits help to not go there again.

 

[cezhead]

I think this passage proves to the false teachers that there is redemption through Christ even if we do sin. The false teachers wanted everyone to believe that once they sinned, it was all over. However, John tells us, from the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that as long as we abide in him, we do not sin. This doesn't mean we truly don't sin, just that when the Father looks at our sin, He sees Jesus.

   It seems to me that the false teachers wanted people to follow the law out of fear or obligation, whereas John teaches us that obedience to the law is a result of falling in love with the Lover of our soul.

[JSF]

How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers? What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

 

It seems that the false teachers were teaching that one could follow God and that how one lived did not matter.  Disobedience, discord, worldliness,lawlessness were perhaps allowed and not addressed by these other teachers.

[Uncle Dave]

 

How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers?

John’s position on the false teachers is that they are anti-Christs. John teaches what the Word of God says – that we should repent and move forward.

 

What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

 

The false teachers had a great tendency to undermine the seriousness of sin. Such a teaching would (if followed) do little more than lead people down a path of no return, stumbling and falling the whole way.

 

[hanks]

Q5. (1 John 3:3-10) 
How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers? 
What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living? 
The false teachers did not emphasise the seriousness of sin, and because of this many people could be lulled into a false sense of complacency. They might feel that because of their outward conformity to accepted “Christian” patterns of behaviour, they are guaranteed salvation. But a consistent practice of disobedience to Christ coupled with the lack of the elements of the fruit of the Holy Spirit such as love, joy, peace, and so forth, is a warning signal that the person is probably not a true Christian inwardly, and that there probably has been no regenerating work of the Holy Spirit. In other words, they have not been saved and will not spend eternity with our Lord and Saviour. This shows the devastation this false teaching can have on a person’s life.
 

[haar]

Q5. (1 John 3:3-10)

Q. How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers?

A. He teaches that sin is lawlessness

What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

A. That humans, cannot be able to live sinless lives

 

[Reuben]

Q5. (1 John 3:3-10) How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers? What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

John is explaining that we are supposed to be different in our way of living and it should be seen by others as a light shining in darkness to others. If we want to be called children of God we should live up to it and strive to meet the expectations of being called a Christian. In fact I have heard people say on occasions when they come to know you are a Christian things like " ..I thought you are a bit different..", taking it as a compliment of course?.

We strive to live a perfectly sinless life but only One could do this and through Him we become righteous with God as he died for our sins past present and future. BUT this does not mean job done!. This means we must continue to do what God tells us to do , or the opposite will happen , and lawlessness and sin will increase and the shadow of darkness will choke you again.

False teaches are present today as they were in the past teaching their flock we are all good because grace and faith is all we need, don't try to hard because it might be seen as "works", and we don't want to see that. This is happy go lucky, go with the flow teaching and very dangerous. As we will be accountable for every action , SO MUCH MORE THE FALSE TEACHERS CAUSING THE FLOCK TO ERR.
 

[Krissi]

 How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers? What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

"This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother." (3:10)  I know I'm supposed to feel secure in my faith, but the above verse still frightens me. because I do not always do what is right. At times, like yesterday, I blunder in areas where God is working in me. I understand that sin is forgiven and that I'm a Christian, but worry that the seed of righteousness that has been planted in me hasn't rooted deeply enough.

Who are the false teachers in my life, I wonder? First, they are people who live flagrantly anti-Christian lives and mock me for trying (and failing) to live differently. Second, they are people who preach or teach a gospel that leads people away from righteousness.  Bart Ehrman comes to mind as well as many of the "liberal" theologians I used to read. 

One thing false teachers do is claim that sin isn't sin, so that people who have a particular character flaw or sin -- for example, homosexuality -- rather than submit to what the Bible says about that sin, choose to "re-interpret" or "update for modern sensibilities" the clear meaning of scripture and thus minimize or deny their sin. Rather than repent, they claim that what they're doing and saying is not really a sin, but a consequence of God's unfolding and ever-tolerant morality.

To continue the example, they claim that a homosexual marriage is God's will and that in this "marriage" they're living righteously. But you can see the deadening effect of sin in their eyes, and their desperation to get you to accept their sin belies the gravity of their self-deception. They're lying to themselves and deceiving others.

[Rob Mc.]

 (1 John 3:3-10) How does John's teaching on sin and righteousness in this passage relate to combating the false teachers?

Because we have a moral compass (the Holy Spirit), we have an awareness that recognizes when someone is teaching us false information.  We accepted Christ, we want Christ in our lives, so we are very conscious now about the increase of sin in our world. We understand that we have to fight against evil and the false teachers.  They won’t go away or stop trying just because we are saved.  They will fight even harder to turn us away from Jesus.

What did they seem to be teaching about sin and righteous living?

Sin is Lawlessness.  Those that continually do what is sinful are of Satan.  They that keep on sinning cannot know God. We cannot let anyone lead us astray.  We must strive to do what is right to remain righteous, just as God is righteous.  Thankfully Jesus Christ became man and died for our sins.  Now we have both him and the Holy Spirit to help us with the fight.