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Q1. Psalm 69. Deep Waters and Miry Depths

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 06:03 PM

Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?
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Posted 23 September 2007 - 01:09 AM

Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah?
David was able to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah because he knew that God is merciful. David knew that a repented heart will find forgiveness from a God who forgives. When we make a request of God it is always based on his graciousness and never because we deserve it. And since we can rest on the unchanging character of God's love we are secure in that love as He waits for a repented sinner to petition Him.


How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?
God's grace and mercy is lavished upon us because of the love that He has for us. Because we are his children, even when we sin, his attitude towards us is compassion and deep love.

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QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 18 2007, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?


David cried out until he was physically exhausted. With A Parched throat and blurred vision.Yet he still trusted God to save him. David could look back on many times and remember the mercyfulness of God in other times when he was in trouble and his life threatened by danger. He knew God personally and knew God as a loving and forgiving God.

When devasted by death or tradgy , We need not collaspe or despair because we can turn to God and ask Him to save us And help us. The tears will still come, but we will not be crying in vain

When we are completely beaten down, we are tempted to turn from God , give up, and quit trusting Him, When our situation seems hopeless , determine that no matter how bad things become you will continue to pray . God will hear your prayer, and He will rescue you. His love, grace, mercy, forgiveness, and faithfulness to us is always right there for the asking when we cry out to Him. In Jeramiah it says "call on my name and I will hear and answer" When others reject us, When we need God most. He leans His ear and responds. ( Jer. 29: 11 )

I am so grateful I have a God who loves, cares, forgives, and protects me even when I sometimes do dumb things. Praise God. I love Him so.
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Posted 29 September 2007 - 11:01 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 18 2007, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?



David was able to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah because he knew that He is a forgiving and merciful God who never keeps records of our sin. If we truly confessed and repented our sin, he will forgive, care and embraced us back to His compassionate love. God will hear our prayer, and He will rescue us. In the midst of our sorrows and trials, we need to pray more so that we can be rooted to His word and draw mre closer to Him to lead the Spirit guide and protect us.

His unfailing love, amazing grace, tender mercy and faithfulness will bring peace & joy to surpass all our understanding that there is no condemnation in Christ. He will cover us under the shadow of His wings that the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom that will lead us to walk in the light of His word.
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Posted 29 September 2007 - 12:05 PM

Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?


David, like any of the rest of us, dared to approach God simply because of God's great mercy and grace. What a loving, tender, compassionate, caring, forgiving, Father we have. His grace, His mercy still avails for you and me today as it did for David. If we confess our sins He is faithful and just and will forgive our sins, and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. (1 John 1:9)
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Post icon  Posted 30 September 2007 - 01:05 AM

(Psalm 69:12-18)

How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah?
Our God is truly merciful and will forgive all of our sins if we only ask. We have a gift beyond conprehension in being assured that in Christ all sins are forgiven. May be live in grateful appreciation of God's love and unlimited mercy.


[u] How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?
God's will forgive any of our sin if we only confess and ask for forgiveness. God's grace and mercy is unconditional and unlimited and is a gift beyond our understanding but what a blessing. Praise be to our loving Father.
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Posted 30 September 2007 - 06:06 AM

1) David knows that no body is sinless. He also knows that God is a God of second chance. Even though, David had committed adultery with Bethsheba, he knows that God is merciful and will be willing to forgive you as long as you have the heart to repent and admit that you have done wrong.

2) Even though we have sin against God, due to his unfailing love and mercy, he will forgive us as long as we have the heart and desire to change our old habbits. We need to confess and beg for forgiveness from God and promise him that you will never ever do such sin again in the future. God will cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
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Posted 30 September 2007 - 09:54 AM

How could David dare to ask anything from God...he could ask because he already knew God intimately, David approached God not by boasting of his own good, but instead he acknowledged how much his sin with Bathsheba had cast shame onto God, and onto other members of His family. His approach to God was not one of a mighty warrior and King of Israel, instead he humbled himself completely, fully acknowledging the sin of what he'd done and its consequences to his followers and to God Himself. Our Loving Father knows of our weaknesses, we can hide nothing from Him, yet He welcomed us into His family despite our failings. None of us can approach God on our own merits, in our own righteousness...it is by God's mercy and Grace that we can come into His presence at all.
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Posted 30 September 2007 - 01:47 PM

Once convicted of our sin who else is there to turn to? It is only God whom we can sin against and it is only He who is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins. David, a man, did sin as recorded in the bible with Bathsheba but that is recorded. How many sins are not recorded and, how often did David throw himself down before Yahweh and repent? Based upon his writings I would say that David was well versed in Adonai's grace and mercy and left us the word that His love is boundless, and is a very present help in our time of need, no matter how weak we are or how often.
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Posted 30 September 2007 - 07:18 PM

[quote name='Pastor Ralph' date='Aug 18 2007, 02:03 PM' post='28553']
Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?
because he had no where else to turn to ...he knew GOD LOVED HIM AND EVEN THOUGH HE SINNED ..HE KNEW GOD WOULD STILL EXCEPT HIM AS HIS OWN.....GOD'S MERCY ..HE FORGIVES US BECAUSE HE LOVES US.
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Posted 30 September 2007 - 07:18 PM

[quote name='Pastor Ralph' date='Aug 18 2007, 02:03 PM' post='28553']
Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?
because he had no where else to turn to ...he knew GOD LOVED HIM AND EVEN THOUGH HE SINNED ..HE KNEW GOD WOULD STILL EXCEPT HIM AS HIS OWN.....GOD'S MERCY ..HE FORGIVES US BECAUSE HE LOVES US.
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Posted 30 September 2007 - 10:03 PM

I’m not at all sure that David wrote this psalm after he sinned against God with Bathsheba and Uriah (it does sound as if Jeremiah wrote it after going through all the hardships he had in his life), but whatever very shameful thing the poet did in sinning against God, the only way he could approach God to ask anything of Him is the same way all of us believers can ask God, and that is through His everlasting love, mercy, and forgiveness for what he (we) have done; and because He is a never, ever-changing Almighty God who has forgiven us for everyone of our sins through His Son, Jesus Christ’s death on the cross (and this fact never, ever changes because our God, our heavenly Father, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, never changes but “is the same yesterday, today, and forever.” The poet (and we) could not ever come before Him on our own merits or “good works” because, without Him in our lives, we absolutely do not have any at all! This is how God’s grace and mercy function in the face of our sins, and all we can do is to continually give Him thanks, praise for what He has done for us and to worship Him for who He is and His wonderful, immeasurable grace and mercy and love He has for us throughout eternity!!!!! Amen!
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 04:51 AM

unsure.gif David could go to God on God's merits of grace and mercy. He knew God is always willing to forgive sins and help those who call on Him in faith.
In the face of our sins,God's grace and mercy function when through God's grace we are forgiven and by His mercy He forgets and cleanses us from our sin. Thank you Jesus!
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Posted 01 October 2007 - 12:50 PM

Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?


As I read this Psalm I am aware that David is very mindful of his sinfulness, he is aware that God knows all about his sin and folly (5), and he is aware that God is disciplining him because of it (see verse 26 i.e. God has wounded David), on top of all this David is aware that his sins are affecting others. We see in this Psalm that David is repenting, humbling his soul in fasting, weeping and sackcloth (9-12) and people are mocking him because of his act of righteous repentance in the face of God’s discipline (It is because of this righteous repentance that he can say both: 1) that he is sinful and 2) also is enduring scorn for God’s sake)

It is in this context that David makes his request for salvation; he makes his request only on the basis of God’s favor, mercy and goodness (13, 16) not out of any though of his own merit. As I read I see David’s wonderful understanding, that when being disciplined we must endure hardship as God’s discipline (Heb 12:7 NIV) yet at the same time we still seek and hope for God’s salvation in that hardship. The waiting for the time of God’s discipline to finish is uncomfortable-it intensifies David’s cry for the time of God favor to be shown (Ps 69:13-18).

I think this is how grace and mercy function in the face of our sins- God does not condemn us and also He does not leave us without consequence, because we are His children He trains us- of course God’s discipline is not pleasant it is painful (Heb 12:11) David attests to this in this Psalm! But he also knows the time of God’s favor will soon come (as David declared in Psalm 103 His anger last but for a moment but His mercy a whole life long!) David knows that the LORD does not despise His captive people, even those who are captive because of their own sinful actions (Ps 69:33) and in hope of God’s salvation the close of this Psalm is praise in anticipation of His salvation

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Posted 01 October 2007 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 18 2007, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?


1. David admits that he he was wrong and has sinned, but he also know that God is a merciful God and that he loves us inspite of the sins we have committed. It is similar to our raising our own children. David humbly went to God and repented for his sins and prayed for mercy.

2. Even though we commit sins, God is willing to forgive us if we repent and are humble and decease from sinning. In His word, he says that His grace is sufficient. Without his grace and mercy, many would be lost forever.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 02:19 AM

David had a deep relationship with the Lord. He knew of His mercies and forgiveness. David also knew holding on to sins devastates the sinner. Confession & repentance is the only way to become healthy again. He also didn't want the separation from God that he felt.

The same way. God knows our bent to sinning. We need to keep a clear account with God--confess & then repent. His mercies are new every day!! Praise Him!
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 08:44 AM

(Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? Our God is an awesome, he reigns from heaven above. Because of David's repented heart and God's lovingkindness toward His children, our God will lift us up in our times of trouble.

How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins? We are neither abandoned nor pardoned, we will be called to pass through the fire to be tested and refined as a result of our sins, but God remains with us through even the fire (see Daniel 3) as he was with the disobedient children in the desert for 40 years and with Jesus in the wilderness 40 days. Afterwards we restored and often rise above our former state - and this He does for His greatest glory!


Peace be unto you,

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 09:32 AM

Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?

David a man after God's own heart knew that he had a relationship with God that would last even when he sinned. He knew that all he had to do was call apon the Lord confess his sin then the mercy of God would pour out on him and cleanse him of all his unrighteousness. He prayed for that cleansing in Psalms 51:10-12. David had called out to God before and knew that He ould answer his prayer if they were from a sincere heart.

God's mercy and grace reach out to us as they did David when we sin as all humans do we need to fall down on our knees and ask our Father God to for give that weakness then with a true knowledge of his love for us we can recieve that forgiveness and know He has move it as for as the east is from the west. He remembers it no more all due to His grace and mercy. Praise and Glory to God the Father through Jesus Christ His Son, He is our salvation and there is no other.
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Posted 02 October 2007 - 11:02 AM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 18 2007, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q1. (Psalm 69:12-18) How could David dare to ask anything from God after the shameful things he had done with Bathsheba and Uriah? How does God's grace and mercy function in the face of our sins?

Because he repented and was truly sorry and he had the faith in Jesus Christ. It convicts us and we eventually repent. Then we must suffer the consequences like David did with the death of his child. And we stand tall know with a repented heart we can face anything. As long as a lesson is learned...Jesus holds us.............
In His holy and peaceful hands I remain until we meet again,

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 03:04 PM

I have been told from the beginning of my journey as a Christian that if I truly believed and repented - I could ask the Lord's forgiveness and that it would be given to me. I believe that the same is true for David and anyone else who believes.
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