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#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 03:09 AM

Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?
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Post icon  Posted 25 January 2008 - 03:01 AM

Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden ****? Well straight up, my sexual desire is for my hubby. God gave him to me and me to him. Father hand picked him for me. He did a swell job. We just celebrated 25 years together by getting married all over again. He was worth marring a second time. The first time we went to Reno. “Wham bam, thank you mam” This time, we did it up by building a memory of beauty , all built around Father. We had a sand ceremony and each color had a scripture read, explaining what that color represented. I had a good friend sing the Aaronic Blessing right after the ceremony and he sang it in Hebrew. Then my brother who gave me away came and read the blessing over us and the whole congregation. We took communion with each other while my matron of honor sang and played a beautiful song dedicated to us.

Forbidden **** is what caused Adam and Eve to partake of the tree of first fruits that was in the garden. That temptation began with ****: Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. (Did you notice that? Adam was standing right there with her?)

That was Fathers tree and we are not to touch what belongs to Him. We are reminded of this truth in the book of Joshua when they went in to Jericho. They could not touch or take the first cities belongings because they belonged to Father. The spoils would go to Him, to be used for His desire. One man did. Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah, took of the accursed thing: and the anger of the LORD was kindled against the children of Israel. His thievery of Gods first fruits brought Gods wrath upon the whole camp. And all Israel stoned him with stones, and burned them with fire, after they had stoned them with stones. And they raised over him a great heap of stones unto this day. So the LORD turned from the fierceness of his anger. Wherefore the name of that place was called, The valley of Achor, unto this day. We can not tresspass against God and get away with it at all.
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Post icon  Posted 27 January 2008 - 08:14 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 20 2007, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?


The command is here laid down ( Math. 5 : 27 ), Thou shalt not commit adultery; which includes a prohibition of all other acts of uncleanness, and the desire of them: but the Pharisees, in their expositions of this command, made it to extend no further than the act of adultery, suggesting, that if the iniquity was only regarded in the heart, and went no further, God could not hear it , would not regard it and therefore they thought it enough to be able to say that they were no adulterers.

It is here explained in the strictness of it, in three things, which would seem new and strange to those who had been always governed by the tradition of the elders, and look all for oracular that they taught.

We are hear taught, that there is such a thing as heart- adultery, adulterous thoughts and dispositions, which never proceed to the act of adultry or fornication; and perhaps the defilement which these give to the soul, that is here so clearly asserted, was not only included in the seventh commandment, but was signified and intended in many of those cermonial pollutions under the law, for which they wash their clothes, and bathe their flesh in water. Whosoever looketh on a woman not only another man's wife, as some would have it, but any woman, to after her, has committed adultery with her in his heart, ( Math. 5:28 ). This command forbids not only the acts of fornication and adultery, but, ( 1. ) All appetites to them, all after the forbidden object; this is the beginning of the sin, conceiving; it is a bad step towards the sin; and where the is dwelt upon and approved, and the wanton desire is rolled under the tongue as a sweet morsel, it is the commission of sin, as far as the heart can do it; there wants nothing but convenient opportunity for the sin itself. The mind is debauched. is conscience baffled or biassed: biassed, if it say nothing against the sin; baffled, if it prevail not in what it says. ( 2 ). All approaches toward them; feeding the eye with the sight of the forbidden fruit; not only looking for that end, that I may ; but looking till I do , or looking to gratify the , where further satisfaction cannot be obtained. The eye is both the inlet and outlet of a great deal of wickedness of this kind, What need have we, therefore, with Holy Job, to make a covenant with our eyes, to make this bargain with them that they should have the pleasure of beholding the light of the sun and the works of God, provided they would never fasten or dwell upon anything that might occasion impure imaginations or desires; and under this penalty, that if they did, they must smart for it in penitential tears ( Job 31: 1 ) What have we the covering of the eyes for, but to restrain corrupt glances, and to keep out of their defiling impressions? This forbids also the using of any other of our senses to stir up . If ensnaring looks are forbidden fruit, These precepts are hedges about the law of heart- purity, ( Math. 5:8 ). And if looking be , they who dress and deck, and expose themselves, with design to be looked at and lusted after are no less guilty. Men sin, but the Devil tempt to sin.
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Posted 31 January 2008 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 19 2007, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?


1. Sexual desire is good between a married man and woman for the ultimate purpose of producing children. ******* after someone that isn't your husband or wife can result in more problems than some people can handle. A pure heart can keep you from desiring forbidden things.
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Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:55 PM

Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden ****.

This is quite simple. If we are in His will, He will provide the right spouse for us. If we are not, our human depravity takes over and we give in to our human desires. To do this, a Christian should stay in prayer and God will provide. The laws have been set down for us in the Old Testament . The New Testament provides repeated confirmation of the Law. The problem is we do not want to listen to God’s voice and allow the body to take over. Even when we are convicted that a sexual act is wrong, we may ignore it—for every action we take has an equal and opposite reaction. If we sin—we will reap the consequences.

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Post icon  Posted 02 February 2008 - 11:12 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 19 2007, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?


I like the way Apostel Paul wrote about how to distinguish between that God given sexual desire and forbidden **** when he was talking to the Corinthians about sexual immorality in 1 Corinthains 16:18-19 and in Proverbs 6:25 Solomon warns us about the **** thats in our heart that can hold us captivate. I also like the way Paul wrote to the Corinthians about that God-given sexual desire on marriage in 1 Corinthians 7:2.
1 Corinthians Paul wrote about
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Posted 02 February 2008 - 11:45 PM

A good and Godly sexual desire will find it’s fulfillment with in marriage. Any sexual fulfillment outside of marriage is based on forbidden lus+ and is not Godly.



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Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:16 PM

Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?

The God given desire will only come when we are joined to a partner in marriage as God has intented. **** come when we let imagination of another go to extremes and sin grows. **** leads us from God, and sex in marriage fulfills His instruction to us to reproduce.
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 02:49 AM

God given sexual desires are good under marriage only. It seeks to totally unite the husband and wife and to bring forth children.

The difference is marriage!! No marriage--no sex!!
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 12:18 PM

God gave us sexual drives for two purposes...to show love between husband and wife and to have children. When we stray from these facts there can trouble for all concerned. In our world today there are so many temptations it takes a strong person to resist straying. MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICES!
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Post icon  Posted 04 February 2008 - 01:11 PM

God given desires are gratified within a marriage boundry.
Anything else is forbidden ****. Pull the window shade!
See the other as a son or daughter of God!
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 01:13 PM

The good and natural sex desire is fulfilled between a husband and wife and there is also deep love and commitment involved. The forbidden **** desire is just a person gratifying a want to satisfy something he/she knows is not right. There is no commitment and often no love either - simply a physical act that often causes much pain and heartache.
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 20 2007, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?

God-given sexual desire is intended by God to be within he bounds of marriage and to be a beautiful union between man and wife. Any sexual desire outside of marriage, to a married or a single person, is forbidden lus+.
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 02:44 PM

Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden ****?
God made man to have sex after marriage not outside marriage. Sex outside marriage always hurts someone. It hurts God because it shows that we prefer to satisfy our desires our own way instead of waiting to God’s word or to satisfy then immediately instead of waiting for His timing.

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Posted 04 February 2008 - 02:47 PM

Anytime a desire becomes an obsession we've arrived in the forbidden fruit zone.
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:40 PM

Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?
We can distinguish between the God-given sexual desire, which is between a man or a woman that are husband and wife in marriage versus a forbidden **** that feeds (the desire to feel, touch, want what does not legally belong to us) leading to the sin against the flesh which is forbidden in the Law of God because it is a crime of the heart and a crime against the flesh when it is not sealed with the bond of marriage between a man and a woman.
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 04:11 PM

Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden ****?

Sexual desire is a physical desire from God, just like any other God-given physical desire and can be quite liberating to those who are heaping condemnation upon themselves for those desires. So let me say it again: There is nothing wrong with you if you have sexual desire. Jesus plainly stated that only to certain men is given the obviously rare gift of celibacy (see Matt. 19:10-12). For all the rest of us, as Paul wrote, "It is better to marry than to burn with passion" (1 Cor. 7:9). God certainly understands sexual desire. It was His idea

Although **** is not the same as sexual desire, its basis is sexual desire. But it is more than just that. It is the first step of undisciplined sexual desire. It is also important to understand that sexual temptation is not the same as ****. Sexual temptation is a temptation like any other temptation, and to be tempted to sin is not a sin. Jesus was tempted in every way that we are tempted, but He never sinned (see Heb. 4:15). That proves that being tempted to sin is not a sin.





































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Post icon  Posted 04 February 2008 - 04:59 PM

**** is about the moment - you know that it will be fleeting and immediate satisfaction. It is isolated in that it about what makes you feel good - it is isolated. Sexual Desire is about a deeper communication, about expression of a deep emotion and about producing children.
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Post icon  Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:32 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 20 2007, 03:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?


1) Any sexual desire outside the bounds of marriage is forbidden ****. He made it so simple...no ifs, ands or buts. The marriage bed is God's gift and is the only place to experience God-given sexual pleasure which Has His blessing.
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Posted 04 February 2008 - 07:25 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Dec 19 2007, 09:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q2. God purposely created us with a good and natural sexual desire. How do we distinguish between that God-given sexual desire and forbidden lus+?

We are sexual beings so it is natural and good to have sexual desires , How ever like any other pleasure/desire ,it only becomes legitimate when used unselfishly for the higher goal of becoming a Loving person.marriage is a sacrament that allows us to experience this desire legitimately ,however if indulged in selfishly even in marraige it is **** and would not achieve the purpose for which God gave it to us .
In conclusion : Sexual desires should lead us beyond sexual intimacy to Love if not it would degenerate to base physical pleasures enslaving us rather than liberating us rolleyes.gif
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