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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry?

It's always better if you can help each other bear each others' burdens. To go it alone, as I do, is a hard row to hoe.

What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? For Christ’s Kingdom?

You tend to feel isolated and alone. It doesn't help Christ's Kingdom if we aren't united.

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry? What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? For Christ’s Kingdom?JESUS says that you can tell a tree by the fruit it bears,if the tree isnt in"GOOD SPIRITUAL HEALTH"then the fruit of its ministry will not be healthy or bear none at all...JESUS says He is the Vine and we are the branches,if the branch isnt fruitfull then it dies and withers at the Vine...Time must be taken out to either prune the branch or minister to it...GOD BLESS

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A christain spiritual health is important because we have to stay in a chruch . God word said to get together for the building up of the chruch and this is why we have to be spiritual health to do God work.

The consequence of dropping out of chruch for a believe is not good is because this is where we get our strengthen is from getting togther with the saints.

For the kingdom of God is to build God kingdom.

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God’s design is that believers are united as members of the one Body of Christ. We are given the primary mission of sharing the good news of salvation with the world – individually, but ultimately collectively. So we are responsible to Him and to each other for our participation in that mission that is organized/accomplished through the local assemblies of believers. In a very personal individual way, a believer can never correctly grow and mature in Christ apart from that community. We are not called to be loners. As a matter of fact, 1John 3 and 4 make it clear that a primary evidence of authentic Christianity is genuine love for the members of Christ's Body, and love draws people together. Within the local context, we find opportunities for ministry and service as we each utilize the spiritual gift(s) given by the Holy Spirit for the purpose of building the Body in order to broadcast the Gospel. And we are there not only to minister according to our own gift, but to be ministered to by others according to their gifts. We need each other for inspiration, motivation, challenge, accountability, encouragement, assistance, and resources.

When a believer separates from the church, that person will suffer stunted growth in Christ. I believe every Christian’s gifting is given as a solution to a need/problem, so the church will suffer loss of those solutions and strengths. Both will lose intended blessing. And the kingdom of God will be missing all that was to be accomplished through that believer’s ministry. That equates to lost people whose lives will never be touched the way God desires.

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1.IF WE ARE IN A SPIRIT FILLED ENVIROMENT IT IS LIKE IT TOUCHES ONE AND PASSED ON TO ANOTHER.

2.IF WE DROP OUT OF CHURCH WE CANNOT HEAR THE WORD AND LOSE OUT ON FELLOWSHIP WITH OTHER BELIVERS

3.I HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN SPIRIT FILLED ENVIROMENT IF NOT SATAN WILL TAKE ADVANTAGE QUICKLY.

4. THE ONLY WAY TO CHRISTS KINGDOM IS BELIVING ING IN JESUS CHRIST. WE HAVE TO BE FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT AND LET NOTHING STAND IN OUR WAY TO KEEP US FROM CHRIST.

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Every christian has been given one gift or the other to minister, that is to serve one onother thus making the church healthy and growing. When members fail to attend church, they do not contribute in building the church into a healthy status. The chruch will consequently be ineffective.

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Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry? What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? For Christ’s Kingdom?

1) Christian's spiritual health is so closely related to his/her involvement in ministry because we all have been given spiritual gifts no matter how small it may be. When we serve according to our gifts it makes local church effective.

2) The consequences of dropping out of church for the believer are that you are not exercising your spiritual gifts in ministry. Also, not being surrounded by your brothers and sisters in Christ for their strength opens the door for Satan's attack.

3) The consequences of dropping out of church for Christ's Kingdom are lack of financial support needed to support Christ's mission. In most cases, if a person is not going to church they are not giving financially either.

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry?

God gave us our gifts and talents and we are to use them 100%. If not, our faith is not reflected and shown.

What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? The Holy Spirit in us is inactive.

What are the consequences of dropping out of church - for Christ’s Kingdom? You may not enter the kingdom of GOD.

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a)

Why is a Christian's spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry?

Only that the Holy Spirit equips us for the ministry, but if we resist, we don't see it and the Lord might decide to use somebody else to get the job done...

What are the consequences of dropping out of church --for the believer? For Christ's Kingdom?

The Lord's action in our lives is limited. And the church is weaker as well, and may be handicapped by our lack of service ... and have trouble fulfiling its mission.

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry? What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? For Christ’s Kingdom?

We need the encouragement and fellowship of others who are like us. It's like people who drink alcohol-they only want to hang out with people who drink alcohol.

I don't go to church. I don't want to be entertained, and I don't like "clicks". I refuse to go to a church where the pastor spends one hour talking about all the activities and all the stuff going on at the church, and then spends 30 minutes patting himself on the back because he went to the nursing home, and spent 30 minutes ministering to the retired folks, then he spends 10 minutes preaching. I am looking for real, down-to-earth Christians who practice what they preach and then pass it on. Sometimes I think I'm asking for too much.

I don't know where you live and I am hoping that I am misreading your reason for not assembling with the brethren, if what you have said pertains to you. If it does I am praying with you in hopes that the Holy Spirit leads you to a place where you can be embraced in the beauty of saints assembling together.

I agree whole heartily with Pastor Ralph, "Every church has flaws, since it is made up of flawed people, but you must be part of a church because it an integral part of Jesus' strategy to minister to his people and to the world. If you're out of regular fellowship with a church --unless you're physically unable to attend --it's time to reconsider!"

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian's spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry?

It has been said when someone is spiritually healthy they continue in the process of growth; moment by moment they are being strengthened; they in obedience accepts / receive guidance from God, His under shepherds as they lead according to His Will; they strive to be in God's perfect Will, etc...

To be spiritually unhealthy is the opposite the person may straddle the fence on issues such as being honest (lying, cheating, stealing , gossip {tale-bearing / back biting}); if the serve others they do so unwillingly ; in essence they do not strive to be a good steward unto the Lord.

In my opinion a Christian's spiritual health determines their involvement in ministry, the use of all that God has ordained or allowed them to use or have at their disposal.

What are the consequences of dropping out of church --for the believer?

Dropping out of a church for a Believer can have a effect on the Believer and the church house where they previously assembled.

For the individual if they seek isolation for reasons other than as Christ did, if they feed on things of evil influence it can be to their determent spiritually and maybe even physically. They may not only become spiritually unhealthy, they may be emotionally unhealthy. Which could lead to becoming mentally and physically unhealthy. Even worse they may attempt to shorten their appointed time. etc...

For the church house there will be an absence of the service, the gifts, the talents, witness, a short fall in the community and support from the individual. etc...

For Christ's Kingdom?

"Now the church is not wood and stone, but the company of people who believe in Christ." Martin Luther

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

The Church will stand, however the influence of Christ Kingdom can be influenced because of man and our limited understanding.

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The reason that the Christian’s spiritual health is so closely related to his or her involvement in the ministry is that they are thinking about it more often. If you don’t take your ministry seriously then you aren’t trying new ways to make your ministry effective. We also need the fellowship of like persons to be able to discuss the things that we have learned or to talk to others about what they are learned.

The consequences of dropping out of church is that you don’t have that sounding board to take you ideas to and see if they really are good or not. And for Christ’s Kingdom not only does you not have somebody encouraging you but you will not be able to encourage others. That will probably make some others also drop out and the Kingdom will not be advanced.

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry? What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? For Christ’s Kingdom?

A Christian's spiritual health is closely related to his or her involvement in ministry because their spiritual gifts and calling are made effective as the participate in the Body and not as a loner. Also as Christians mature spiritually their desire for doing the work of God also grows and they become more and more involved in ministry.

For the Believer, dropping out of church means cutting of a part of the Body, reducing the effectiveness of the Body. And for the Believer, being removed from a source of spiritual strength, would render him/her weak in short order.

When the Believer drops out of church the Kingdom of God loses the effectiveness of the local church in their location.

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian's spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry?

A Christian’s spiritual health is closely related to his or her involvement in ministry, because every believer has been given a gift to use for the ministry and the work of the church. When a Christian uses his or her gifts it will not only make any local church effective, but will help them to grow spiritually and healthier in their Christian life.

What are the consequences of dropping out of church --for the believer?

The consequences of dropping out of church or church hopping for the believer is that they are not exercising their spiritual gifts in ministry, and may not be giving of their finances to support Christ's mission in their church and community.

It is important for Christians to be under the Word and fellowship with other believers because it is a command from the Lord.

Hebrews 10:25 – Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.” (KJV)

For Christ's Kingdom?

The consequences of dropping out of the church for Christ’s Kingdom, is that when a person is not an effective witness, and of a life following Christ’s example doing the will of the Father’s.

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When we are involved in ministry, it gives us the opportunity to see Christ at work through us to draw others to Himself. We learn that in our ministry it is what God does in and through us that counts: “our competence comes from God”. This is of great encouragement to our faith. When we separate ourselves from other believers, we lack both the encouragement from and to others, and we are limited in potential as we lack the gifts and counsel of others to develop in our ministry.

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A Christian's spiritual health is so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry because each believer has been given spiritual gifts and a ministry within the local church. As we become involved in a local church,we help make the church effective.

The consequences of dropping out of church for the believer are not exercising one's spiritual gifts in ministry.

The effect it has on Christ's Kingdom is,a believer who has dropped out of church isn't giving financially to help the church support Christ's mission in the community as well as around the world.

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REPLY TO 'iam4_1god'

"I am looking for real, down-to-earth Christians who practice what they preach and then pass it on. Sometimes I think I'm asking for too much."

Please don't stop looking. Somewhere there's a body of believers who need your gifts as much as you need theirs.

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Recognizing and nurturing spiritual growth in accordance with the Spirit is a function of the local body of believers. We are all called to encourage and build up one another for the cause of Christ. (1 Thess 5:11) when we drop out of church, we cut off our source of encouragement and growth. We also deprive the church of our giftedness which is used to build up and encourage others.

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4a)If we are spiritually healthy, we are active in using our God given gifts locally &more widely to serve Christ,we have a purpose in life, we enable mission of church to be effective &grow.We receive the support from other Christians. B)If we stop attending we are not able to use the gifts we have been given, we don’t grow as indiv’s, we are more prone to satan’s attacks, are spiritually weaker,&church’s care for people, it’s outreach &finances suffer.The church Christ’s body suffers, we are all needed.c)Our impact, strength &resources to share Jesus with those around us is reduced, less people become believers, Christ’s kingdom not advanced.

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry? What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? For Christ’s Kingdom?

 

Every follower of Christ is called into some area of the Gospel ministry.  Each Christian has a role to play in the mission of the church that is Holy Spirit given and directed.  A spiritually healthy Christian is serving the Lord in word and deed and is taking an active role in the church. 

 

When you drop out of church you drop out of the Body of Christ.  God is reaching out to the world through the church.  The church is the means by which God is drawing people to Him.  To be a Christian and not be a part of the church is very problematic.

 

The Apostles taught to encourage one another, pray for one another, pray together, serve together, conduct the Lord's Supper together, etc.  A Christian cannot do these things without being  a part of a fellowship of believers.

 

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian's spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry? What are the consequences of dropping out of church --for the believer? For Christ's Kingdom? http://www.joyfulheart.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1081

 

Because the “New” Covenant came due to Jesus shedding His blood for the forgiveness of our sins, we have the promise of eternal life and the presence of the Holy Spirit of Christ forever and ever.  By such possession, we have been equipped to serve Jesus and because of our faith and the presence of the Holy Spirit in us, we have the ability to serve the LORD.  The more we serve, our faith in Him increases and thus our competency to be a better minister of/for the LORD increases and improves. Anytime we slack off and take a rest from serving the LORD, our effectiveness as a minister of the team diminishes and negatively affects our influence on the world in bringing others close and closer to the LORD.

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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry? What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? For Christ’s Kingdom? 

 

Question 3.4

 
In verse 5 we read that our competence comes from the Lord.  If God is wince our competence comes then we are not able to have a healthy Christ centered ministry.  Our Christian faith is based upon Jesus Christ our Lord – if we do not proclaim this fact our ministry is for naught.  It is God through grace that enables us to declare “Jesus is Lord”.  In so declaring we are made with Christ.
 
It is God who gives us our competency, our sufficiency and it is this confidence that makes us ministers of God.
 
Dropping out of church is an individualistic attitude which develops from the Renaissance and the scientific method.  In this age we do not appreciate the strength and support that is derived from community.  Christianity and the church are community related and we must give our support in order to be a healthy individual and have a healthy church.  If we watch a coal fire burning the red glow of the burning coals lasts and lasts.  But if one of the coals is taken from the fire and placed on the hearth by itself it soon becomes dark and loses its heat.  Similarly for the community of the church; we draw upon each other’s faith and the result is much greater than the sum of all the  Christians in the community alone..  Glory be to God for the church.
 
​Similarly if we drop out our kill set is lost to the church. We also must remember that Paul tells us that we, the church,  are the body of Christ. I one of us leaves it is equivalent to lopping of one of the members of the body. The body may not die but it is less efficient and able to its ministry.
 
 
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Q4. (2 Corinthians 3:6a) Why is a Christian’s spiritual health so closely related to his or her involvement in ministry? What are the consequences of dropping out of church – for the believer? For Christ’s Kingdom?

A Christians health is related to his ministry because by keeping his or herself active in a church congregation. They are able to share their gifts and exhort the body of Christ, and by staying active, helps sharpen them in the gifts they have.

The consequences of not staying active in the church, a person is not sharing the gifts they have and possibly allowing their gift to go stagnant. This deprives church members of benefiting from the gift one has. Staying active in church will indeed benefit the congregation of the church.

For the Kingdom of Christ, if one does not share his gifts with other believers he is depriving the Holy Spirit of the gifts they were given. All members of Christ are to share what the lord has given them in the areas of their talents and gifts. This helps continue the growth of the members, the church and the furtherance of the Kingdom of God.   

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For the past six years, I've been caring for my dying father. During the last year, as he weakened, I have been unable to leave him -- it is difficult to find nurses on weekends, particularly Sunday. Also, I have promised him I would not institutionalize him and pray to keep that promise, so I'm one of those people who don't attend church because I cannot.

I will compare what my spiritual life was like before and after churchgoing. First, some church-critical thoughts...

1) I have grown tremendously apart from church so don't believe the primary purpose of church is listening to the sermon or going to Sunday School or adult classes. After all, a disciplined Christian can learn far more alone, at home, in front of a pile of books -- I have. You must have too. After all, you're doing Pastor Ralph's bible studies, probably alone. So, the teaching function of the church, at least for it's more disciplined or spiritually mature members, is not a compelling reason to attend.

2) The idea that church is the place where we love one another is only partly true. The Great Commission isn't to each other, but to outsiders. That's the should be the vector of our love and concern. Jesus commands us to love our neighbours most of whom are, presumably, secular. But many churches have a inward pull, as if the primary focus of the church is to build each other up, which is laudable, but NOT the Great Commission and NOT what Jesus told us to do, which was to love outsiders to the church. The eyes of the church should always be outward, toward the world that doesn't know Him.

My father is an atheist. Here, while caring for him, I am loving and praying him into the Kingdom, God willing. My young neighbour is a lapsed Catholic. I'm slowly leading her to the point where she can make a decision for Christ. She's far from this point now. This is love in action, I believe, the literal loving of neighbours. I'm sure you do the same. So, we're not doing anything that needs a church to back us up. We're just obeying and looking for opportunities to witness.

3) We tend to think small when we say the word "church," focusing our minds on a particular group or even structure. But the body of Christ -- His church -- isn't merely the physical church you attend or even those in it. It's a larger concept. World-wide or universal. When Christ "looks down" from heaven, he doesn't see a myraid of churches but ONE body of Christ, one big, universal body. 

Now, some church-affirming thoughts...

1) I think, from the perspective of being forced home and away from church, that one of the primary reasons we attend church is to touch and talk to people who believe. We're lonely without Christians in our lives. Spiritually parched. We are designed to crave fellowship in some manner, whether it be in an traditionally organized church, parachurch group, accountability group, missions group, small group, coffee klatch, etc. As "Old Jerry" said above, when we're in church, we're thinking about our outreach more often, our ministries; other are our sounding board that can improve the exercise of our gifts.

2) I also believe that God has ordered the universe in a hierarchical manner, that we're in church because we're supposed to be under the "cover" or authority of the minister and perhaps elders/deacons. If that pastor doesn't bother to get to know us or lead us, then we need to find another pastor who takes his pastoral role more seriously. So, when we're outside the church we're vulnerable. I do feel this. There's something about a fellow Christian who calls or texts, that I can depend on to really pray for me, that's both comforting and strengthening. Those of us outside the church have to scramble to find other Christians. It's difficult.

 

 

 

 

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