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Q4. Psalm 51. A Broken and Contrite Heart

#1 User is offline   Pastor Ralph

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Posted 18 August 2007 - 10:13 PM

Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?
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Post icon  Posted 08 November 2007 - 10:25 PM

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Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?


( Verse 51:17 ) " The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise."

God is a Spirit, and His eye is on a spiritual service. He does not turn with indifference from a spirit broken and crushed, and ground to powder, by the weighty hand of the accusing law. He sees the buddings of real faith, and true apprehension of the appeasing victim. He is ever ready to bind up that which is broken. Happy are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

God wants a broken spirit and a broken and contrite heart. You can never please God by outward actions----no matter how good--- if your inward heart attitude is not right in broken sorrow of repentence for the sin it is not right. When you genuinely intend to stop and turn away from the sin God is pleased with this kind of humility.
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Posted 09 November 2007 - 09:25 AM

Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?

A "broken and contrite heart" is acheived when the condition of profound contrition and awe is experienced by a sinful person who then becomes aware of the divine presence. This condition produces a heart that is sorrowful over sins committed. But this still lack the deep repentance that comes when one is truly sorry for a sin, he then humbles himself and seeks forgiveness.
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Posted 10 November 2007 - 11:43 PM

A broken & contrite heart are achieved when you really are sorrowful at our sin against God.

Repentance--a turning away from that sin--is evident.

You may be sorry you were found out--but it does nothing to cleanse you or turn your life around.

Humility is everything. How can you be prideful & be truly sorrowful & repentant at the same time?
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Posted 11 November 2007 - 07:57 PM

How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition?

A broken and contrite heart comes when, through the convicting power of the Holy Spirit, when we honestly face up to the fact that we have sinned and done evil in His sight. When we truly come to grips with the fact that we have hurt God and are willing to honestly admit such before him with no conditions or strings attached.

How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin?

“So often we are sad at being caught or exposed, but not sad at hurting the God who loves us or injuring his reputation by our sins.” It is more than a surface emotion. It is an inner deep felt knowledge that we are in disobedience to God.

How does humility relate to this condition?

Only a truly humble heart can be broken to the point when God is able to bring about such a cleansing.
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Posted 13 November 2007 - 03:09 AM

rolleyes.gif To have a broken or contrite heart, one must be sorrowful that we sinned against God
This occurs through the power of the holy spirit.
being broken implie a deeper emotion and knowledge.
A humble heart can be used to bring about clensing.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 10:37 AM

Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?


I believe that as our faith is increased through prayer and study the Spirit of God comes and makes His presence known to us and when we sin He touches our heart and makes us sorry and repentant for it and this lesds to the broken and contrite heart. Once we are truly devoted to God and His Mercies we are remorseful when we fail for what ever reason and the longer we are in Christ the more we should feel the pain when we sin against Him.

We can be sorry and yet not contrite when it greaves us that we sin but not enough to make the required changes in our life that we don't sin any longer. Humility can enter the picture when pride is our sin and the Spirit greves us to change and become humble. With humility the pain of sin is stronger in our heart and the Spirit can help us deal with that sin faster becaus we become remosrseful sooner.
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Posted 14 November 2007 - 02:19 PM

A broken and contrite heart is the result of great sorrow and pain for the hurt that is afflicted on God when we have sinned and are dismayed because we did. It becomes increasingly difficult to function normally as the tremendous sense of guilt weighs heavily on the heart. There is great loneliness because of the separation from our beloved Father. We become keenly aware that without His presence in our lives we are lost and our need for dependency upon Him is urgent.

Being sorry for sin is lip service. It does not come from the heart.

A broken and contrite spirit is humilty as humility to God is our complete surrender to His will.
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Post icon  Posted 15 November 2007 - 10:32 PM

rolleyes.gif Q4. (Psalm 51:17)

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**How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"?

A broken and contrite heart is one that is profoundly grieved and sorry for sinning against our Lord and Savior who died that our sins be forgiven. When we are truly sorry for our transgressions and truly repent, we achieve a broken and contrite heart. This is not just an outward ritual but an inward condition of the heart. We repent and truly strive to glorify God when we are sorry for offending Him.



** What are the earmarks of this condition?


The earmarks of the condition is a changed relationship with God. We are sincerely sorry for our transgressions and our goal in life is to serve and glorify God.



**How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin?


One could be sorry for a sin because he or she doesn't want to cope with the consequences of the sin. One with a contrite heart is sorry because the sin has grieved our loving Savior who died for our sin. Lord, may our hearts be so grieved when we sin that we repent and truly make our goal in life to serve and glorify You. May we always be thankful for your mercy towards us.

**How does humility relate to this condition?

Only when we realize that we are saved because of God's grace can we be humble. We are not saved because of anything we do but because of God's grace and mercy.


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Posted 16 November 2007 - 05:17 AM

Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?


1) A broken and contrite heart is the result of great sorrow and pain for the hurt that is afflicted on God. This occurs when we have sinned. Moreover, there is great loneliness because of the separation from our beloved Father. The Hebrew meaning of Sin - gap between God and us, thus, if we sin, our relationship with God will continue to be further. However, we know that without His presence in our lives we are lost and our need for dependency upon Him.

2) The earmarks of the condition to restore our strong and intimate relationship with God. We need to sincerly repent and admit that we are a sinner and seek for forgiveness from the bottom of our heart. In addition, we need to set a goal on how we should serve the lord in his ministry.

3) A person who is sorry for a sin may just be simply saying it from their mouth and will not be willing to accept the consequences of the sin and may have other comments to it. However, with a contrite heart, the person will be sorry because of what he has done wrong to our Lord and will want a complete forgiveness from him.

4) We need to have humble heart and attitude. We cannot have a prideful heart.
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 07:01 AM

A broken and contrite heart comes from being guilty of sin, knowing you have done something you can not take back that will have been displeasing to God. A sin that consumes your thoughts because of the guilt and hurt to God and Christ our savour. One you are heart felt sorry for and not just saying it. Humility brings you in front of God in repentance, knowing he is the one to turn to ask for true forgiveness.
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE(Pastor Ralph @ Aug 18 2007, 06:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?


1. A broken and contrite heart is achieved whenever you are physically and emotionally crushed because of your sin.

2. When in this condition, you would feel like God has left you. You are filled with guilt and it constantly on your mind.

3. Whenever you just say that you feel sorry for a sin, you might feel sad that you got caught, but do you mean it from your heart.

4. You should go to God humbly and with deep repentance, ask Him to forgive you.
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Posted 16 November 2007 - 07:32 PM

Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?

I think being sorry that our sin was found out by God, and being sorry our sin is offensive to God are two quite different things. Some would carry on in sin if God didn’t find out, others wouldn’t because they care about the heart of God, and realize sin separates us from close fellowship with Him (Isa 59:2). When we love someone it hurts us when we realize we have hurt them, I think this is what broken and contrite heart is, i.e. a heart saddened by offending God, this leads to more than confession, it leads to a desire to live a different way, God way, this is humility.

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 02:51 AM

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Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?

Restoration and forgiveness results from our choice of once again serving the Lord. A true repenting heart is something God can work with by our being very sorry and repent from our sin. Humbleness is a heart sign that God recognizes.
In His holy and peaceful hands I remain until we meet again,

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 04:57 AM

Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?

How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"?

* "The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart,

What are the earmarks of this condition?

* One who is physically and emotionally crushed because of sin or the onslaught of an enemy.

How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin?

* Until our hearts break with sorrow at our sin, we are not quite ready for forgiveness.

How does humility relate to this condition?

* Oh, that our sins would break our hearts!



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Posted 17 November 2007 - 10:23 PM

Our hearts are broken and contrite when we become aware of what we have done to God.

The earmarks of this condition is fear of God turning away from us, sorrow and broken heartedness and our spirit crushed.

If we are just sorry for a sin we will return to the sin.

We have to humble ourselves before God to accept his forgiveness. Anything less is just being sorry that people have caught us in our sin and not being concerned about our relationship with God.

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Posted 24 November 2007 - 12:23 AM

One achieves a "broken and contrite heart" by sincerely repenting and admitting to the Lord we are genuinely sorry for our sin. The earmarks of this condition is a turning away from a sin, not just confessing it. This differs from "being sorry" for a sin because we are experiencing geniune sorrow for our sin, not just being sorry we got caught doing wrong. Humility relates to this condition because we need to humble ourselves before God when confessing our sin.
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Posted 26 November 2007 - 01:43 PM

When we are caught in our sin and our disobedience to God and another person or persons is pointed out to us or when we are sorry because our sin has brought consequences to it, then we are just “being sorry” for our sin. But just the opposite of this, when our breaks before the Lord for our sin of disobedience before Him (which it nailed Him to the cross in the first place!) and we have godly sorrow for our sin, confessing it and then repenting from it to go God’s way instead of our own, then this is the earmarks of the condition of a true broken and contrite heart before the Lord and true humility relates to this condition because then one’s heart is truly humble and contrite before the Lord as He truly forgives our sin.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 02:40 PM

Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?
God wants a broken spirit and a broken and true repentant heart. You can never please God by outward actions- n matter how good- if your heart is not right.
We are to turn away from sin, turn from the world, turn from yourself, turn from the devil, turn to God and turn to right-living if we are to please God.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 04:21 PM

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Q4. (Psalm 51:17) How does one achieve a "broken and contrite heart"? What are the earmarks of this condition? How does this differ from "being sorry" for a sin? How does humility relate to this condition?


A "broken and contrite heart" is achieved by being truly sorry for something you have done that is not pleasing unto God. It differes from just "being sorry" because you feel deep within that you have wronged God and are compelled to somewhow make it right in His sight. You cannot even find rest within yourself until atonement is made.
Humility is related to this condition in that you must have a humble spirit within you to even be able
to acknowledge that you have "messed up" so badly. You may be ashamed, but you realize that you must "come clean" with or confess to God.

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