MarkH Posted July 28, 2007 Report Share Posted July 28, 2007 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? Under the old covenant if a person sinned intentionally, the sin could not be forgiven. Because Jesus died for all sins whither intentional or unintentional, all we need to do is to follow 1 John 1:9; confess our sins to the Lord and he will forgive us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don W Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 No, the Old Covenant provided only for forgiveness of unintentional sins and not for intentional, active, and rebellious sins against God. In fact, such rebellious sins were likened in the Old Testament to the sins of witchcraft and other horrible things. Only the New Covenant of Christ provides for not only our unintentional sins, our intentional, active, rebellious sins, and the sins of our thoughts as well as our actions against God and our fellow people. Only through the blood of Christ, given to us for the forgiveness of all our sins at the cross, can we be granted complete forgiveness for our sins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dar Posted August 5, 2007 Report Share Posted August 5, 2007 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? (Lev. 4:5-13) Sin Offering was a bloody offering known as a quilt offering given for unintentional or intentional sin for which there was no possible restitution. Restitution was given if the offering was accompanied by repentance, (Num. 15:30) The sin of active, maintained rebelling against God is not forgiven - because it isn't accompanied by repentance or faith in God Almighty who rules with a iron rod of righteousness. Num 15:30 And the soul that does anything with a high hand, whether of a native or of the alien, the same blasphemes Jehovah. And that person shall be cut off from the midst of his people. Do not think that they in the Old Testament nor the people in the New Testament can shake their fist in the face of God with the sins they do in defiance will be forgiven, not yesterday nor today, unless it comes from a repentent heart! Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? Christ's offering was seen in the Mosaic system as a sacrificial offering, one that goes up to God, a continual offering, for sinfulness required a complete and continual atonement. Christ paid the price for all the sin of mankind, we receive this forgiveness if our hearts are accompanied by repentance and by our "Faith" in The Redeemer! Do not trample on the work of the cross. There is no forgiveness for a person who hates God and His ways, who does not want to obey God, nor live according to His laws. Christ Jesus came to do the will of the Father, to bring His glory to the people, the way to receive God's glory is through a covenant with the Son Jesus. Your covenant is a marriage contract and Christ is coming back for a bride that has made herself ready, who is looking for His return, one who is prepared and is faithful. The God on the throne is the God of the Old Testament, He calls His name "The God of Israel" He is the same yesterday and today. The unforgivable sin is the sin against The Holy Spirit! Rebellion is sin, the same as witch-craft, and stubbornness as idolatry. What is required for forgiveness to be granted? Faith in Christ Jesus death and resurrection. Saying yes to the marriage contract by living a life of repentance and love for the God that loved us so much He sent His only Son to die for us, to redeem us from the power of sin, so we can come to His throne with the robe of righteousness we received the day we were born again of the Spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cee Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? Yes. Yes through Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Repentance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidjjj Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? This is asking something outside what this text is addressing- Dr Ralph in his notes addresses this and below I quote him from his day 2 study -Forgiveness for Intentional and Unintentional Sins (9:7b) “When people became aware of sins, they were to bring a sin offering to make atonement for it (Leviticus chapters 4-5). On the Day of Atonement, the high priest offered sacrifices for sins committed unintentionally. "In ignorance" (NIV), "unintentionally" (NRSV), and "errors" (KJV) is agnoēma, "sin committed in ignorance/unintentionally." The word is related to agnoeō, "to not know, be ignorant of," from which we get our word "agnostic."21 The Old Covenant also provided for sacrifices to be made for cheating, stealing, or deceit (Leviticus 6), as well as sins which spring from the weakness of flesh and blood, through ignorance, hurry, want of consideration, or carelessness. But there were no sacrifices to atone for intentional rebellion against the Almighty King, the Suzerain. The Old Covenant had no way to handle sins committed intentionally, "defiantly" (NIV), "presumptuously" (KJV), or "with a high hand (RSV).22 "But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people. Because he has despised the LORD's word and broken his commands, that person must surely be cut off; his guilt remains on him." (Numbers 15:30-31) The phrase translated "defiantly" (NIV), "presumptuously" (KJV), or "with a high hand (RSV) is literally, "with uplifted hand ... as though the transgressor was about to attack God or rebel against Him wantonly."23 Fortunately, Jesus died for all our sins, intentional and unintentional. We receive that forgiveness through faith, by humbling ourselves in repentance and receiving pardon. We do not deserve pardon for what we have done, it is granted through the grace of God. Hebrews 10:26 comes to min as I ponder this question- Dr Ralph’s last statement The only "unpardonable sin," I believe, is one in which a person persists in unbelief and does not humble him or herself in faith and repentance so that he can receive forgiveness.” Hebrews 10:26 speaks of more than intentional sin- but an intentionally sinful lifestyle, one in which we live in continual defiance to God i.e. apostasy George Guthrie says “What the author [of Hebrews] has in mind [in verse 26] is a deliberate, sinful lifestyle of high-handed rebellion against the gospel.” William Lane also agrees saying “Like that earlier passage[ chapter 6] , it exposes the gravity of apostasy” Hebrews 10:29 adds to this thought- this is more than an intentional sinful act or two- this is a defiant condition this is seen in this apostates treatment of Christ i.e. trampling underfoot the Son of God (to treat with disdain)… insulting the Spirit of grace… regarding the blood of Christ as defiled (WBC 294) This person is showing utter disdain and contempt for Jesus and His sacrifice- he is not asking for mercy (4:16) he is rejecting the mercy offered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God's leading lady Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 The Old Covenant didn't provide forgiveness for intentional active rebellious sin against God. Yes the New Covenant does provide forgiveness of sin. The requirement of forgiveness to be granted is to repent of your rebellious ways and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your Saviour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InTotalAwe Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Intentional sin was not to be tolerated. Those guilty of such were to be cut off from the people, not exceptions were to be made. Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? Jesus' sacrifice paid for ALL our sins. What is required for forgiveness to be granted? Our forgiveness is granted when we humbly confess our sins to the LORD, repent or turn from them and ask forgiveness. This is the promise given to those who are sancitified by faith in Him. 1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanMary Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? No, only for the errors and sins of ignorance and thoughtlessness. Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? Yes, it does. All sins are forgiven. What is required for forgiveness to be granted? It requires humbling oneself, confession, and repentance from the sin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patricia A Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? No, the Old Covenant did not provide forgiveness for intentional rebellion against God. Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What a blessing and joy to know that the New Covenant does provide forgiveness for all sins. What is required for forgiveness to be granted? In order for sins to be forgiven, we must confess our sin and humble ourselves before God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheryl Posted February 18, 2009 Report Share Posted February 18, 2009 The Old Covenant did not provide forgiveness for deliberate rebellion against God. The New Covenant does provide forgiveness for intentional rebellion against God. The requirements for receiving pardon is believing God by faith will forgive you, being humble in repentance of your sins, and receiving the pardon from God through His grace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanks Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? No, the Old Covenant did not provide forgiveness for sins committed intentionally. The Old Testament makes a clear distinction between sins committed unintentionally (in ignorance) and those sins man commits defiantly. Unintentional sins will be forgiven; intentional sins cannot be forgiven, for the man who commits them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Riv Posted August 22, 2009 Report Share Posted August 22, 2009 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? Well once a year the high priest would go into the tabernacle with animal blood for the peoples sins, for their IGNORANCE meaning not being aware of, so for those sins I think there was forgivness, but for intentional sin and acts I do not think so. I do not think that if one intentionally sins and rebells continuously against God that there is forgiveness. We are given the chance to repent and reform our ways but to intentionally keep putting Christ to the cross I do not think so. We need to repent earnestly, accept Christ and believe in Him and walk with Him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrD Posted April 15, 2010 Report Share Posted April 15, 2010 NO, the Old Covenant did not provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God. . . YES, faith in the Lord Jesus, and by humbling ourselves and repenting of our sins. . . 1 John 1:5-10 (NLT) 5 This is the message we heard from Jesus and now declare to you: God is light, and there is no darkness in him at all. 6 So we are lying if we say we have fellowship with God but go on living in spiritual darkness; we are not practicing the truth. 7 But if we are living in the light, as God is in the light, then we have fellowship with each other, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth. 9 But if we confess our sins to him, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all wickedness. 10 If we claim we have not sinned, we are calling God a liar and showing that his word has no place in our hearts. Repentance is the key to receiving forgiveness for all sin. . . 2 Corinthians 7:10 (NLT) 10 For the kind of sorrow God wants us to experience leads us away from sin and results in salvation. There Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramon Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Answer: 1.Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? No.The Old Covenant does not provide.In fact all those blood offerings, did not take away their sin.It just cover them,for them to have fellowship with God,and to be done the following year,over and over again. 2.Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? Yes. 3. What is required for forgiveness to be granted? Repentance,and accepting Lord Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour. In short.BELEIVE IN GOD,and JESUS CHRIST WHOM HE HAD SENT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
servant for Christ Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? No, the Old Covenant did not provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God. Yes, the New Covenant does. By Christ death on the cross, all of our sins are forgiven. To get forgiveness all we have to do is to repent of our sin with a sincere heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4_1god Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? Only unintentional sin was covered under the old covenant. The new covenant provides for ALL sin! Jesus' shed blood covered it all, people! Just confess and repent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blezed Posted March 8, 2011 Report Share Posted March 8, 2011 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? 1) The Old Covenant did not provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God. 2) Yes, the New Covenant does provide for this forgiveness through the death of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. 3) For forgiveness to be granted we must believe, humble ourselves and repent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacquie7 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 The old covenant provided for forgiveness of unintentional sins through the sacrificial offerings. But, there was no provision for intentional sins. Under the new covenant, Jesus’ death provided forgiveness for both intentional and unintentional sins through our faith, humility in repentance, and receipt of pardoning. None of which we deserve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Jerry Posted August 7, 2013 Report Share Posted August 7, 2013 The Old Covenant provided forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God once a year by offering the blood of an animal which he did for himself and for the sins of the people. God provides us with this forgiveness by the blood of Jesus Christ in the New Covenant. All we have to do is except Jesus Christ as our savior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lighthouse2014 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? The Old Covenant did not provide forgiveness for sins that were intentional or rebelling against God. The New Testament provides for forgiveness for sins that were intentional or rebellious against God, provided the individual is repentant, humbles himself and begins obeying God's commandments. However, if a person persist in his sins and is not repentant, they will not be forgiven, they have committed the unforgivable sin. Those that do repent and humble themselves, will be forgiven by the grace of God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paula Price Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 The old law was just an example of what to do or what would be required to be forgiven of breaking the law. It was given to the people as a way of redeeming themselves back to God when they did something wrong that was not intentional. It was to show them what sin was and what God would and would not tolerate. It was to show them how to please God and be a teacher of this to others. The old law as well as the new law does not provide forgiveness for apostasy! God will not forgive those who practice sin. You can not serve two masters! In order to be forgiven of sin, you have to do what is required for that forgiveness and then do not sin again. Forgiveness is for those who are doing the will of God and sin is not God's will! Grace and mercy covers a sin that is not intentional or in a moment of weakness, but when we turn from that sin and ask for forgiveness with a sincere heart, and do not sin again, we are forgiven. Look how many times God forgave Israel!!. He will forgive us just as many, for he does not wish to see us perish. We were made to glory God! We were made to worship and adore and to praise Him ! To live according to His will and His purpose. And when we do that He will reward us and bless us! A sit in His kingdom to praise Him forevermore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godswriter Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? No it only covered the sins of the High Priest and the people; it did not forgive their sins at all. The New Covenant does provide it; through repentance and faith in Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Follower Posted December 18, 2020 Report Share Posted December 18, 2020 On 4/16/2007 at 12:07 AM, Pastor Ralph said: Q3. (Hebrews 9:7) Did the Old Covenant provide forgiveness for intentional, active, maintained rebellion against God? Does the New Covenant provide this forgiveness? What is required for forgiveness to be granted? No. Yes. Faith in Jesus and trust in Him and his sacrifice to provide forgiveness, which motivates us to repentance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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