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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming?

Heb 9:28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many people; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him NIV

The First Coming was dealing with sin (penalty & power-later presence)

The Second Coming speaks of salvation- sin although not explicitly associated with this 2nd Coming is still an issue- we will in Christ

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Jesus Christ First Coming was to take away the sins of the world, Jesus did this through his suffering on the cross, shedding his blood for all mankind and dying on the cross. Jesus Christ second coming will be for him having the keys of death and hell and him having dominion of all power under heaven and earth. Jesus Christ will come back as King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

The Jews were believing that Jesus would come as a King not as a servant, who would destroy their enemy the Roman dictatorship over them completely and that he would rule and reign on earth with all power as a King.

Isaiah 53 doesn't fit the Jews description of Jesus being a King because Jesus came here on earth as a lowly servant. Isaiah 53: 1-5, 7 NIV Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men. a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised and we esteemed him not. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. (7) He was oppressed and afflicted yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. This is not the way the Jews expected him to come on earth as a suffering servant, they wanted and believed that he would come as a King in royal appeal and great mighty soldiers behind him with power to destroy, kill and conquer.

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming?

His first coming was to bear/take away sin, as the sacrifice, once for all.

His second coming will be as Savior to bring salvation, to those waiting for Him, and complete deliverance from the fallen sin nature.

Which did the Jews expect?

The Jews rejected Him as sacrifice, (suffering servant), because they were wanting/expecting the victorious Messiah to deliver them from Roman oppression. (They were content with the animal sacrifices for sin and weren't looking for anything greater)

How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

"He was despised, rejected by those He came to deliver from sin, a Man of sorrows and pain and sickness, acquainted with grief. Men hid their faces from Him. He has borne our griefs, sicknesses, weaknesses, carrying away our sorrows & pains of punishment, yet He was considered sticken, smitten, afflicted by God as with leprosy. He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our guilt and iniquities; the chastisement needful to obtain peace and well being for us was upon Him and with the stripes that wounded Him we are healed and made whole. He was like a lamb led to the slaughter", as the sacrifice for sin.

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming?

The First Coming of Christ was to bring salvation to those who believe by giving His blood in death for our sins. When Jesus returns again, He will reign as King of Kings.

Which did the Jews expect?

The Jews expected a Savior who would free them from the trials of this world.

How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

Jesus came and suffered for our sins and thus brought us salvation. :o

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His first coming was to serve as Sacrifice; taking away our sins by forgiveness. His second coming will be as Savior; bringing salvation to those who hope and wait on Him; judgment for those who reject Him.

The Jews expected the Second Coming.

In order to bring salvation, their had to be suffering of the Sacrifice. That was the only way the sins of the people could be removed to make way for salvation. First, we must be saved from the guilt and slavery of sin, then from the earthly hardships and tribulations.

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28)

How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming?

Which did the Jews expect?

How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

When Christ returns, it will not be to deal with the problem of sin: this work He finished at the cross. He will come to take us home to heaven; to be with Him for all eternity!! This will be the culmination of our salvation, and we will receive our glorified bodies. The Jews expected a Messiah to come and save them. Jesus suffered for all our sins; past, present and future sins.

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming? Which did the Jews expect? How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

Christs first coming was to save us from our sin. His second coming is to take us believers to heaven and to lay judgement on the world. I believe the Jews were exspecting a King who would lead them into victory over their enemies, and are still waiting for His first coming. All that the New Testaments talk about are right there in Isaiah 53. The Suffering Servant is Christ in His first and His second coming. The book of Isaiah was written many centuries before Christ, God knew then that man would reject Him but His love for us is so great He went thru with His plan any way! How awesome is He! PRAISE GOD! :rolleyes:

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FIRST COMING - to bear or take away our sns - free us from the bondage of sin affording us the ability to live a holy life in obedient seervice to Him. . .

SECOND COMING - to take us back with Him to live eternally in His presence. . .

John 14:1-3 (NKJV)

1 "Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.

2 In My Father's house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.

The Jewish people were expecting the second more so than the first - they were looking for Him to bring about a kingdom where they were free from the rule and bondage of their enemies. . .

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming? Which did the Jews expect? How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

When Christ first came in man form his purpose was to teach about Father God and to be the perfect offering for the atonement of sins committed under the first(old) covenant. The Second coming of Christ is to bring salvation to those whom are eagerly expecting his return- for those who are becoming holy and blameless. The Jews expected an earthly king/ruler. Christ came to establish a heavenly kingdom (John 18:36) of which he will rule and reign. It fits perfectly as foretold.

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Answer:

How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming?

His First coming is to bring the Good News of Salvation,through the sacrifice of His own body.His second coming is to bring Judgement:

1.To the believers who hold on to the end-Eternal Life

2.To thos who reject Him-Eternal damnation

Which did the Jews expect?

The Jew are expecting a King who will be coming riding in a horse,with all its splendor and glory,and delivering them from the bondage of slavery and persecution from the Roman Empire.They are not expecting a King who will be born in a manger,raised as a Carpenter son,and so They rejected Him.

How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

Isaiah 53 foretold the life of Jesus Christ.Isaiah even wonder whether people will believe His prophecy:He begins in verse one

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming? Which did the Jews expect? How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

Christ's first coming was to take away the sins of many people. When he will come again, he will bring salvation to all who are eagerly waiting for him. The Jews expected the second. Isaiah 53 fits because in His agony on the cross, Jesus interceded for sinners. His minintry of intercession still continues in heaven.

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming? Which did the Jews expect? How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

Jesus came the first time to bring salvation-the good news. The second time will be to save those who are waiting for Him to come (the Jews). Jesus suffered before He died-not only that-He was separated from the Father, and He also suffered in our place. Jesus did a lot, and suffered much for us. He deserves everything from us-all we are and have! He is so worthy, and we are not!

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming? Which did the Jews expect? How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

1) Christ came and died for our sins in his First Coming. In his Second Coming He came as our Savior to bring salvation.

2) The Jews were looking for the Messiah, someone of royalty to deliver them from their enemy and bring salvation.

3) Isaiah 53 foretold Jesus First Coming. Jesus is described as the Suffering Servant. He took on, assumed our sin in order to carry it away.

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His first coming was to save man from sin, His second coming will be to bring salvation for those who are waiting for Him. His second coming will give us eternal life in a world where sin will no longer exist. The Jews expected a glorious King, someone beautiful and majestic according to their worldly thoughts. But The Father sent His Son as a lowly servant born in a stable. The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fits with the first coming of Christ because He came first to save mankind by becoming sin and dying on the cross.

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The purpose of Jesus’ first coming was to take away the sins of the people and the second coming will be to bring salvation to those who waited on him. The Jews expected Jesus to be the conqueror of the world. They thought that He was going to put the Romans under their control.

 

In Isaiah 53 this is what Isaiah was saying what was going to happen when our Savior appeared that He would suffer for us.

 

 

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming? Which did the Jews expect? How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

The purpose of Christ first coming to earth, suffering and dying on the cross, was to be a sacrifice to bare the sins of many. His second coming will be as a victorious King, he comes for all those who wait for him, no longer to die for our sins.

The Jews expected their messiah to come and set his eternal kingdom then and there. Not to die but to defeat the Romans and set up his kingdom, they were not expecting a suffering messiah.

The mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 was that the messiah was to bare the sins of many, to take up the burden of our judgement and punishment upon himself and carry them away. Christ did this by suffering and dying on the cross, he was the sacrifice for the many, by his resurrection he defeated death. This one Suffering Servant was Jesus Christ, the only Son of God.   

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Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming? Which did the Jews expect? How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

In the First Coming of Christ his purpose was to die on the cross and save the world from their sins. The 2nd coming is about Jesus coming as a conquering King on a white horse. In Isaiah 53 the Suffering Servant is Jesus when he was whipped with the cat of nine tails, abandoned by his disciples, betrayed by Judas, tried by the Sanhedrin and Pilate, and found guilty and spat upon and made fun of, wore a crown of thorns had spikes driven in his hands and feet all for us. They expected a conquering KIng.

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On 4/16/2007 at 12:14 AM, Pastor Ralph said:

Q3. (Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming? Which did the Jews expect? How does the mission of the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fit here?

First coming as sacrifice for sins, suffering servant. Second, conquering Lord, gather those who wait for Him.

Jews expected a conquering political and military hero.

He came to deliver us from our sin. Full, eternal payment. Done, successfully forever.

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(Hebrews 9:28) How did the purpose of Christ's First Coming differ from his Second Coming?

The Jews didn't expect a suffering servant; they wanted the Messiah, like David, who would remove the Romans, to set them free. The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53 fits Christ's 1st coming. For he will punish the non-believers at the rapture and some will hopefully be saved. We as human disciples are charged to share the good news and make disciples along the way.

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