Dar Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? When we offer a sacrifice to God, let it be offered up in "praise" for what He has done for us and for our love for Him. If we want to please God, He tells us - put His law on our hearts. The second law of the new covenant is - love your neighbor as yourself, therefore, when the Holy Spirit brings to heart, brings to memory a situation, a brother has something against us, it is a must we go and take care of the matter. This is for the good of both persons, a healing for both, shutting the door in the face of Satan who is out to kill and destroy. What joy it would than be to go before God, a true offering of "praise." What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? We should do what ever we can to bring about a reconcilitation. Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? If the Holy Spirit has brought to the heart a situation that should be resolved, I cannot think of a reason we shouldn't - unless it was a situation that could not be resolved, the person is no longer here, etc. BUT, it is important we do not let the situation fester in our hearts, ask the Holy Spirit to help with the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
love.serve.know Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 When a brother has something against us it comes between our relationship between us and God. The appropriate action is to go to the brother and try to resolve the issue. There are certain situations where there could be more harm if resolution were pursued. Prayer is the key to knowing what to say and what to do and the Holy Spirit within us should guide us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YBIC Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 The exterior may appear fine, but the interior is not right and we know the Lord desires a broken and contrite heart and despises an exterior that give the appearance all is well. When someone has offended us and asks forgiveness the Lord has asked us to forgive them so he may forgive us. Go to the person you have offended, confess your wrong, make restitution and ask for forgiveness. First weI need to approach them in humility, confessing my wrong and asking forgiveness. If they reject me, the desires of my heart have been made known to them. I can not change how they will react, it may take some time for them to internalize this. In the interim I need to remain humble and I can pray for them. We should always try. If rejected we need to remain humble and pray for healing and in time a change of heart. There may be situations we can not resolve, but the Spirit can work in another person's heart to bring resolve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
June Posted February 1, 2008 Report Share Posted February 1, 2008 Forgive to be forgiven. Repentance and love are the main concern. It is a mockery if we don't repent. No true worship can come from the heart if you have ought against someone. Go to that person an ask forgiveness then resume worship. We may not be able to change some but so long as we have done our part by humbling ourselves, God will do the rest. We are to repent, forgive and love. We only can do what God convicts us to do. He will change the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don W Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 We cannot truly worship a holy God in true holiness and faith when we have wronged a brother or sister in the faith because we have broken the unity of our faith with each other and with God. We should do everything we can in appropriate action to try and be reconciled with our brothers and sisters in the Lord and to be at peace with each other in forgiving them for their wrongdoings as well as asking them for forgiveness for ours. I cannot think of any situations that we shouldn’t try to resolve unless they may be upsetting and embarrassing to a third party; but there are some that we cannot resolve since maybe the other offended party does not want to resolve the wrongdoing or else has moved away where we cannot find them any longer, or has passed away. In these cases, we need to ask God’s forgiveness for our wrongdoing and repent from our sin, and leave it in God’s hands to make the thing right between both parties; to do whatever we possibly can to right the wrong thing, and then to leave the rest up to the Lord to make the situation right. Then we can be sure, in our hearts, that He will do so—at least in our own hearts—and we can then approach His altar of forgiveness and worship Him in His holiness as we should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mags Posted February 2, 2008 Report Share Posted February 2, 2008 God is after a heart that is pure and true - He wants us to love and be loved. How can we truely worship if we don't have pure hearts? We can't honour God if we don't have our own affairs in order! We need to repent - both to each other and to God. We need to go to the person and repent, ask for their forvigeness. We need to do this with the right attitude and mean it. We need to have a heart for love and reconciliation. We can not heal the other person's heart - only God can do that - all we can do is repent from our wrongs with a heart attitude of love. Sometimes reconciliation isn't possible at that time but we need to make a sincere attempt and then leave it in God's hands - pray. We need to make right what we can but we can't change another's heart - only God through the Holy Spirit can do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunga Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? It is totaly wrong to worship while a brother has something agains us. We need to be clean concious before the Lord because God doesn't hold grudges against us, so why should we hold grudges against our brothers and sisters. The appropriate action to take is to reconcile with your brother, if you want to stand before the throne. We shouldn't wait till sunset to bring about reconcilliation with someone whom we have offended. Not under any circumstance should we not try to resolve any situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmaus Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 What is wrong is that we're not obeying God if we worship him with a grievance on our hearts. God wants repentance and for us to be reconciled. The most important thing is to start with a humble heart and ask God to lead the way. When we've sincerely done all that we can do it's up to the other person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DZION Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? If we are worshiping and a brother (sister) has something against us or we have something against them it is a distraction from our worshiping God. Also, we are told to forgive so that the Father can forgive our sins. If we have not forgiven then we are worshiping with sin on us. We need to approach the person that we have offended or that has offended us in humility and ask for forgiveness. We are to make amends or make right whatever we have done. The person has free will to accept and forgive or to refuse. But as long as we have sincerely, humbly, honestly tried and have forgiven the person ourselves then we have done what is required and are forgiven by God. We should try to resolve all situations. I believe the only situation we cannot resolve is the one where the other person does not want it resolved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendamay Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 We must always forgive, we cannot go to God and take his Gift with anger in our heart, as This is a Sin also. sometimes it is difficult, as we might still feel very hurt at what our Brother/Sister meted out to us, but for our own peace of mind, also because this is what we have been commanded to do by Jesus. It is right that we go to our Brother/sister and forgive him/her, also it is right that we also go to our Brother/sister for forgiveness. So that all is well between us, then we can go and take our gift to God, With Peace in our heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meandean Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? we are not free or we are holding someone else captive as well. the only way to get ourselves free is through forgiveness. we have been given the gift of forgiveness through jesus and we should freely give it quickly to others no matter what. no one said it was easy, but when you look to the cross and see your savior forgiving you, it makes it possible. you know, i really think the key word here is remember. the holy spirit will bring to us those who we have hurt or have been hurt by. if we made a list of all we know we have hurt, it would take a lifetime to search them out and besides, we wouldn't even cover those we didn't know we offended. so lets let the spirit remind us of who to go too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAFWEMBE Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? We must love others as we love God. It is threfore not fitting to appear to love God by worshipping Him yet we are at loggerheads with our broher. We should first reconcile with the person before proceeding with our worship We should approach the person we have offended and give him our apology. I dont think there is a situation that is not unforgivable. Jesus forgives all our shotcomings and we should also do the same. He said to Peter "Forvive Seventy time Seven times" In other words we should go on forgiving until our hearts are clear that we have forgiven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linda bass Posted February 16, 2008 Report Share Posted February 16, 2008 Worshipping while a brother has something against us or vice versa is wrong because our worship becomes a mockery and hypocitical if we don't settle any differences or rifts with a fellow believer first. The appropriate action for us to take is to go to the brother and seek reconciliation. We are to seek to make amends. We should try to go as far as we can to be reconciled with a fellow believer we have offended. We need to make a sincere attempt to ask forgiveness of those we have offended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? What's wrong is that the heart is not in the place it should be. The appropriate action for us to take is to attempt to reconcile the situation. We should go as far in reconciliation as the other person will permit. There are no situations we should not try to resolve. Again, resolution of a situation depends upon the spirit of the individuals concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddiewayne Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Q 3A (Matthew 5: 23,24) What's wrong worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother Mark 11:25? Part of worship is getting your heart right with God. If you have not done what you can to to make things right with your brother then you can not get your heart right with God. Q 3B What is the appropriate action for us to take? Pray, ask the Holy Spirit to guide us, then go and try to make things right. Q 3C How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone we have offended? As far as the Holy Spirit leads you to go. But you must allow the Holy Spirit to speak to you and through you. Q 3D Are there any situation that we shouldn't try to resolve? I am not sure , but I think we should always try. Q 3E Or that we can't resolve. Yes there are times when we can not resolve things with others. WE should always try and if we can not then turn it over to God. Some times if we just keep on trying we just make things worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana 527 Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? To give honor and worship to God, we need to come before Him with a clean heart; otherwise we are not giving ourselves completely to God as He desires. When there is a situation where we need to either forgive or ask forgiveness, that puts a blockage between us or God until the situation has been resolved. We should do everything we can to reconcile with someone we've offended, including humbly asking for forgiveness and taking any action to right the wrong we've caused. If the other person is unwilling to forgive or reconcile, we should go as far as we can with the person, and then we can have peace that we have been obedient to God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carolyn bedsaul Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? (1) We would not have the love of God in us. We can not praise and worship the Lord if we have something against our brother because it would be a mockery to God. We have to repent of our sin. We have to ask our brother's forgiveness. We would not have peace or joy to worship the Lord if we did not ask forgiveness. (2) We are to humble ourselves and repent and ask forgiveness. (3) I think we are to do everything we can according to the Word and make sure it is a sincere attempt from the heart. (4) I don't know, there may be some that we can't undo on our own, but the Lord can handle any situtation and knows how to take care of the situtation better than we do. We may have hurt someone so deep, that it may take time to reconcile that friendship. Just make sure that you have done everything to make it right and be sure your anger is replaced with humility and make sure that you want to reconcile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelOnLine Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? If we don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildofGod Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? We can't worship God and be angry with one of his children. We need to make things right with our brothers and then come back to the altar. We need to be willing to reconcile and forgive even if the other party is not. We need to take our amends to them. We cannot ,by ourselves, resolve the problem when one of the parties has died, but we can let the resentment die to Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina Posted March 31, 2008 Report Share Posted March 31, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? We can't worship God whilst there is something that needs to rectified between him and the us because God sees the inner parts as being dirty due to unconfessed sin, yet we wear a white, pure mask in front of the world. He wants us to get rid of the obstacle in our lives that keep us from effective worship, keep us from the working of the Spirit within our lives and keep us from closeness to God. If there is something that needs to resolved, we need to try to mend it with the other person by asking forgiveness. Sometimes even if we don't feel that we caused the problem, we should aplogise because it may even draw that person close to God when they see our Christian character in action. If we can't resolve a situation, as long as we have tried to mend the breach, hand it over to God if the other person doesn't want to meet you halfway and continues to try to make you feel wronged. Confess your sin before God as well. Whatever the negative outcome, don't hold a grudge. It only sets you back and you won't feel liberated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJJ Posted April 7, 2008 Report Share Posted April 7, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? Jesus' clear point is that worship -- seeking to honor God by bringing an offering -- is a mockery if we don't first repent of our sins and carry out that repentance to its logical conclusion. That point isn't radical. It is taught throughout the Scripture in such passages as: "Does the Lord delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices as much as in obeying the voice of the Lord? To obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed is better than the fat of rams" (1 Samuel 15:22). "Rend your heart and not your garments. Return to the Lord your God..." (Joel 2:13). "You do not delight in sacrifice, or I would bring it; you do not take pleasure in burnt offerings. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise" (Psalm 51:16-17). Sometimes we have hurt someone deeply and it is fully our fault, but when we go to humble ourselves and seek forgiveness we are snubbed. We may be snubbed, but we must still go and seek reconciliation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jewell Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother) is like being two-faced - you show one face to the brother and another face to God. Our heart must be open to God and we must be honest with ourselves in order for our heart to be open. We should do what we can to reconcile, but when we have done all we can yet it is fruitless because the other side is unwilling, then our only option is forgiveness and prayer. I don't think there are situations that we shouldn't try to resolve, but there are situations that cannot be resolved when the other party is unwilling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dand Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? Unfortunately, many of us are willing to call ourselves"Christian", yet there are many areas of His character we do not wish to embrace. We have this attitude that "God understands" when we act outside of His character. We must have the courage to face the conflicts among us and be peace-makers. Whether others respond to our desire for peace is not the issue, but when we harbor sin in our hearts and still expect to be recieved by God, we are telling Him that my ways are more important than God's. Through prayer and God's leading, all offenses are able to be healed. The difficulty happens when the other person is not cooperative or may even wish to do you harm, not also obeying the Spirit of God in their heart. Ours is to love and obey. The results are in God's hands. Reconciliation always takes three. God, you, and the other person. Some may reject you and God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iam4-1god Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? God can not be in the presence of sin. Since He doesn't look at the outside, but looks at the heart, we must get our heart in the right condition to receive forgiveness from Him. If we can't forgive others, then He can't forgive us. So it's very important to confess anger, or anything that hinders God's presence when we pray. Whether or not we can resolve a problem with someone we have offended makes no difference-make an effort. Try to resolve the problem. Make sure the heart is right, and that the resolution is really honest and serious. Then if the other party is not willing to reciprocate, then you have done all you can, and just pray about it. Be honest with God about your feelings. Ask for help if you need it. My mother and I have never been very close. Many times I have tried to reach out to her, and she just won't respond. Once when she was sick, and scared of dying I asked her if she wanted me to pray with her. She rejected that ideal. She said she could do it herself, and she shot me that look that says, "leave me alone!" So I pray for her myself, by myself. I realized at some point in time that I needed to let go of this, and let God have His way with this situation. I realized that there is nothing that I can do to resolve this problem. But I know in my heart that I did what I could to resolve it. My heart is ok with what I tried to accomplish. I know I would be under conviction if I weren't right. There's my sign! Gloray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahala p.s. Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Q3. (Matthew 5:23-24) What's wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother, Mark 11:25)? What is the appropriate action for us to take? How far should we go to bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended? Are there any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve? Or that we can't resolve? It is wrong with worshipping while a brother has something against us (or us against a brother) that we have something condemned by the Law, that is, anger, murder, and insult. The appropriate action for us to take is to be reconciled first before we do our worship To bring about reconciliation with someone whom we have offended we should go as far as we have made right what we need to and our anger and insult and self-righteousness about it have been replaced by humility and a willingness to reconcile No, there are not any situations that we shouldn't try to resolve. Yes, there are any situations that we can't resolve, those are ones that the other party doesn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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