Q3. Godliness vs. Morality
#2
Posted 11 January 2009 - 10:38 PM
If we are lead by the Holy Spirit, then we will produce the kind of fruit that testifies to that. Love, joy, peace, longsuffering, etc. If we are embracing strict morality, some of these things will be evident for a time, but will be in evidence only in part because we are not lead by The Spirit. Therefore, God will not get the glory.
#3
Posted 31 January 2009 - 09:14 PM
Godliness comes from seeking to please God, from submitting as a way of life to the gentle leading of the Holy Spirit, as well as to his occasional rebuke. Godliness takes submission to true spiritual discipline and training.
#4
Posted 02 February 2009 - 03:05 AM
Only the Holy Spirit can produce godliness in a person.
A strict morality is yet another vehicle for doing it our way, for our success. One way or another that person will fail. Seeking to NOT do something as opposed to living to please and love God.
#5
Posted 02 February 2009 - 10:35 AM
It is being filled with the Spirit of God, being able to live as Christ lived filled with the Love of God for all men no just self. It is produced as we listen and live by that still small voice from the Spirit as we live our lives growing those fruits of the Spirit spoken of in the lesson by Pastor. Godliness is differant in that it comes from a pure heart it can't be self seeking because it come by the Spirit of God and only seeks good toward other not gratitude for doing what is right.
#6
Posted 02 February 2009 - 04:19 PM
i say godliness is having an abundance of God in your life and acting accordingly. Godliness is produced by knowing the word of God and following his commands. morality is restrictive self-imposed and boring. it is what man looks upon compared to what God sees you as.
#7
Posted 03 February 2009 - 10:45 AM
godliness meansPious, devout, having religion, living the faith. Knowing God is in control, and trusting in God’s providence. Seeing God at work in daily life, and rejoicing in his grace and love.
So, godliness is the fruit of faith, begun at baptism, which grows as it is fed by the grace of God through His Word. It is living the new life to which we have been called in Jesus Christ. It is repenting of sin, and trusting in the forgiveness that is ours in Jesus Christ, and it is sharing the good news of this free salvation.
#8
Posted 03 February 2009 - 04:25 PM
Godliness is doing only the things we know will please God because we love Him and want to please Him.
The Holy Spirit working inside a person produces godliness in him/her.
Embracing a strict morality brings a 'strived for' outward standard, but godliness is brought about by inwardly seeking God in Love.
God bless
Greta
#10
Posted 04 February 2009 - 12:23 AM
I would define godliness as behavior that is pleasing to our God.
Godliness is produced by the promptings of the Holy Spirit to a standard of living that is different from the worldly living that we were in and saved from through the penalty paid by our Lord for our sins. We need to read the Word and spend time with the Lord in prayer. I also think godly Christians to observe are valuable for others who have not had good examples. Are we being that for others?
Godliness is out of love and a desire to please our Lord whereas strict moralitly is a set of man made laws (they may be good) for man's applause.
As always I have a lot of work to do in all areas of my life.
God Bless!
Jen
Numbers 6:24-26
#11
Posted 04 February 2009 - 04:29 AM
godliness is sharing and having the very nature of god - FAITH, HOPE & LOVE, LOVE BEING THE GREATEST BECAUSE GOD IS LOVE ("for god so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son..." - john 3:16).
strict morality, on the other hand, is an outward appearance of godliness that denies the power of it. it is also a form of spiritual pride; holier than thou attitude that does not build godly character.
#12
Posted 04 February 2009 - 06:34 AM
Godliness in a person is an ongoing process of growing in the way of our Lord. The fruits of the Spirit grow as one nurtures them and will be evident in ones life. The most obvious way to grow in the Lord is through the reading and studying of his word, accompanied by praise and worship.
Embracing morality leads to self righteousness and destruction
#13
Posted 04 February 2009 - 10:42 AM
Paul’s final metaphor underscores the seriousness of the Christian life. Our real competitor is Satan. To help each of us as Christian men to “discipline” ourselves “for the purpose of godliness”
Godliness is profitable unto all things; having the promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come. This is a faithful saying, because we are justified by faith and the profession of Christianity without works of righteousness, therefore we are under no obligation to a good life: for faith in Christ, and the sincere profession of the Christian religion doth imply a good life, and an engagement to the practice of all virtue and goodness, which, if we do not perform and make good, we fail in our part of God’s part.
Pax
#14
Posted 04 February 2009 - 03:19 PM
A strict morality is being disciplined to do something. In your mind, you rationalize what you believe and it results in outward actions. Godliness is living out what is in your heart, and following through becuase you love God.
#16
Posted 04 February 2009 - 05:25 PM
Godliness comes from seeking to please God, from submitting as a
way of life to the gentle leading of the Holy Spirit, as well as
to his occasional rebuke.
What produces godliness in a person?
A real desire and effort to serve God led by the Holy Spirit.
How is godliness different from embracing a strict morality?
Godliness can only be the fruit of love for God -- not
an outward obedience or legalism, but an inward seeking of God in
love.
#17
Posted 04 February 2009 - 09:08 PM
What a fabulous teaching lies behind today's set of questions! Thank you Pastor Ralph. Today you have exceeded all previous utter brilliance in teaching. I just loved it!
I think godliness is the quality of father Abraham, who set himself apart from all his culture, and even his family, in order to live in truth and reality. He was the one man on earth with whom God could set up dialogue!. He is the spiritual father of all those who follow the same path. And it is true that one who seeks truth will have to set himself quite apart from current culture, and friendships in order to establish that pure relationship with God, Jesus and Holy Spirit. As Abraham left his home (comfort zone?) to follow the Spirit of God, so we need to put aside all else for Jesus our Redeemer.
What produces godliness? It has to be single-minded purpose. Nothing else will do. One's whole will must be saturated in God's purpose. One's whole heart, mind, soul and strength are devoted to the glory of God, and then His train will indeed fill the temple which is the body of that man, that living brick in the temple of the Most High.
Embracing a morality is just that, living to a set of rules. There is no affection, no passion, no relationship, no love, just a morbid self-satisfaction with one's efforts. Godliness is all about relationship, passion, love, joy, hope, truth, vision, communication, sensitivity, embracing no compromise with love and service to the other as to God. It is alive, where morality is unresponsive, probably critical, self-righteousness and stony.
#18
Posted 04 February 2009 - 11:51 PM
The outworking of the person of Jesus Christ's character through a life yielded to His Lordship (His wisdom, and the fruit of the Spirit...Gal. 5)
What produces godliness in a person?
A life which is yielded to the Lordship of Jesus Christ, and which allows the Holy Spirit to have control of our bodies, minds and spirits.
How is godliness different from embracing a strict morality?
Embracing strict morality is outward adherance to a religious system. Godliness is the outward expression of the person of Jesus Christ living on the inside of an individual.
#19
Posted 05 February 2009 - 06:48 AM
How would you define "godliness"?
What produces godliness in a person?
How is godliness different from embracing a strict morality?
Godliness denotes character and conduct which is determined by the love and fear of God in our hearts. As a Christian we have the qualities of inner piety - the characteristics of a spiritually mature person. Our Spirituality is an absolute quality, depending on our walk with the Lord, and particularly on maintaining our fellowship with the Lord through confession. But none of this is visible. So - how can we tell when true spirituality and maturity are present? Or, how do we know the difference between a godly person and one who is merely well educated and in control of himself? A carnal believer, the novice Christian, can be moral, can use the right vocabulary, can wear a suit and carry a Bible. He can fool some of the people some of the time. But the godly believer is known by “his fruits” - the fruit of the Holy Spirit - things that an unbeliever, or the carnal believer, cannot produce. Godliness is produced in the life of a Christian who is both learning doctrine and growing thereby through edification. The source of our godliness is the Word of God. We have not only learned doctrine academically, but we also apply all that we have learnt to our life. We have to train ourselves in godliness, and this requires a lot of self-discipline. We are to concentrate on the development of spiritual rather than physical strength. Physical self-discipline has a very limited value compared with spiritual self-discipline that results in future as well as present improvements. Spiritual exercise involves reading and studying the Bible, prayer, meditation, and witnessing to others. To maintain such a state of godliness involves a continual intake of the Word, and a consistent submission and obedience to that Word empowered by His Spirit.
#20
Posted 06 February 2009 - 06:41 PM
Godliness is the willful commitment to follow Jesus' example. One doesn't exercise and perform to show the world their outward righteousness but conducts themselves inwardly in way pleasing to God.
Godliness is knowing who God is and to whom we belong. We should live our lives according to the the gifts we have been given. God wants us to have no other God before Him and to love our neighbors as our selves.
Godliness is different because it is based on a lifestyle change as worship and praise to God. Godliness is focusing on and beliving on the prmises of God. On the other hand, embracing a strict morality is no evidence of a change in body and spirit. It is more legalistic oriented than a lifestyle change created by one's belief in the Word and the promises of God.

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