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In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God?

Christ didn't think equality with God something to be possessed by force, robbery, because sin required His death in order to be eligible to share in that ruler ship, this is why He chose the Father's will over His own, accepting the path of obedience and suffering for the sake of the promised reward, after humiliation, not clinging to his equality with God, Jesus was rewarded with exaltation, and is seated at the right hand of God where he shares in the honor, glory, and power with the Father (Rev 5:13) And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb forever and ever.

How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine? Jesus being divine does not mean He is the Father, for the Father is the One who sits upon the throne, it is the Father the Son did not cling to his equality with, and the reason that He left His "Divine" state, to be made a little lower than the angels, I do not base His divinity on just this one verse, but on all of God's word, for the "firstborn" speaks of His eternal Sonship, the inner nature of God, timelessly and eternally the Word of God, who became flesh, the Son who did not think equality something to be forced, the Son who is the radiance of the Sh'khinah, the very essence of God, He is upholding all that exists by His powerful Word, "Divine" He is indeed!!!!!

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In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God?

Christ didn't think equality with God something to be possessed by force, robbery, because sin required His death in order to be eligible to share in that ruler ship, this is why He chose the Father's will over His own, accepting the path of obedience and suffering for the sake of the promised reward, after humiliation, not clinging to his equality with God, Jesus was rewarded with exaltation, and is seated at the right hand of God where he shares in the honor, glory, and power with the Father (Rev 5:13) And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb forever and ever.

How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine? Jesus being divine does not mean He is the Father, for the Father is the One who sits upon the throne, it is the Father the Son did not cling to his equality with, and the reason that He left His "Divine" state, to be made a little lower than the angels, I do not base His divinity on just this one verse, but on all of God's word, for the "firstborn" speaks of His eternal Sonship, the inner nature of God, timelessly and eternally the Word of God, who became flesh, the Son who did not think equality something to be forced, the Son who is the radiance of the Sh'khinah, the very essence of God, He is upholding all that exists by His powerful Word, "Divine" He is indeed!!!!!

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2a)The fact that Christ was humble enough to limit his power for a period of time, without ceasing to be God,to live on earth as Jesus growing up as a boy/young man, subject to time,place,human pressures modelling perfect love &obedience to God.”doing His fathers business”Bringing healing,knowledge,wisdom. the perfect model :D

b)Nature morphe-form that truly and fully reflect what underlies it. Christ took nature of a servant humbly obeying God, whilst before,during&after being equal with God. He didn’t hold onto this equality when became Jesus,even though made of divine substance.He was the perfect necessary sacrifice to atone for our sin.

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Jesus voluntarily became human (for the glory and will of the FATHER) by taking on a human body and nature, setting aside His glory and power, subjecting Himself to time, place, and other human limitations. Though He gave up these things, He kept His divinity making His humanity unique because He was sinless and showed God’s character throughout His human life.

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Philippians 2:6
In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God?
Jesus was not trying to 'Be God'. He 'Is God' and humbled Himself in the likeness of man so that man could recieve salvation from sin and abide with Him in life everlasting.
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How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine?
Philippians 2:6 teaches that Jesus is divine because Paul wrote "Who, being in very nature God..."(NIV). This proves that Jesus is divine.

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Jesus not clinging to his equality with God implies that he willing ly took upon himself the role of the suffering servant as it was portrayed in Isaiah 53, the one who was despise d and rejected, a man of suffering and the one w ho bore our iniquity and because of these iniquities was oppressed and afflicted by a perversion of justice was led away to suffer for the sin of the people. Jesus the homoousious of God willingly left his position on the right hand of God and becamethe stand in for the sins of the people. This righteous one was laid to rest with the wicked though he had done no violence. Remarkablly , inconcievebly thi suffering servant is God- God's homoousious God -self.

Jesus being the same nature as God implies that Jesus is preexisting with God and that Jesus had a hand in the divine plan for human salvation. The passage in the form of God is contrasted in verse 7 with formof a servant . Col 1.5 suggests that Jesus is the visibility of gods divine glory.

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine?

  1. It means that Christ was willing to lay aside his glory and make himself not only a servant; but, was willing to also die for us.  It teaches us that Jesus had a form of Glory just like His Father in heaven. 

 

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine?

  1. It means that Christ was willing to lay aside his glory and make himself not only a servant; but, was willing to also die for us.  It teaches us that Jesus had a form of Glory just like His Father in heaven. 

 

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Christ was with God in the beginning and I believe that when people saw God they were seeing Jesus. But when God decided to send Jesus to the earth to die for our sins, Jesus was God that whole time and He was man. He needed to see what man had to go through.

This passage teaches that Jesus is divine and that we will never understand what that really means until we get to heaven and then maybe not even then.

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Jesus didn't cling to His equality with God when He obeyed the Father by becoming a Man among us.  He humbly accepted God's path for Him to be our Saviour. When He was here on earth, He could have demanded proper recognition; but instead he spoke and lived Truth lovingly, pointing the way to God. This passage teaches Jesus' divinity by saying He was in the very nature (or form and substance) of God (2:6). It also states in 2:9-11 that God has exalted Jesus to the highest place, and that every knee shall bow to Him and every tongue will confess He is Lord.  Only Someone divine would be recognized that way!

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Jesus had all power, authority, strength, foreknowledge--is the King of Kings yet did not use them for His benefit. His heart was set on obeying His Father.

Equal with God.

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Shalom Saints by FAITH in Messiah,

Greetings,

1.Yahshua was one in essence with Yah, one mind, one accord, one Spirit with Yah.

The Messiah was part human He came from a Hebrew woman and conceived by the way of the Holy Spirit. He did nor claim equality. He said He and his Father are one, but this one if you look up is heis, in Greek meaning one in essence, but not one in body. Yahshua said He does not know the time of his coming. And that all power and judgment has been given to him by his Father. If He was His Father then why was He given power He would have still had it.

2. Yahshua is divine because He came to do the Fathers will,He only did and said what His Father told him to do. He was the spokesman for His Father to us so that we would know what to do and obey. By the Father giving Him the power He was able to forgive sins, heal, cast out demons.

Shalom

Faith

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine?

 

Who, being in very nature God,

did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, 
7but made himself nothing,
taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness. 
8And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
and became obedient to death--
even death on a cross! 

 

Therefore God exalted him to the highest place

and gave him the name that is above every name, 
10that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 
11and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

Jesus was willing to give up his divinity to come to earth in human form, and to even experience death, so that we might have an example of the humility we need to have as Christians.  

 

Verse 6 states that he was "in very nature God." He was by nature pure spirit, not subject to the fleshly issues we face as human beings--hunger, thirst, sleep deprivation, sore muscles, deterioration of our physical bodies, etc. And He was willing to give all of this up so that God's plan for redeeming the human race could be completed. As a human being, I cannot imagine what it must be like to have given all that up. I know that I look forward to the day that I will be called home to be in that spirit body and to know the fullness of my salvation. I can't imagine that I would ever want to come back to a life of humanness after that. What a sacrifice our Lord Jesus made for us!

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine?
 

It means Christ was equal with God but did not insist on being equal and thus humbled himself to become man and died a humiliating death on the cross.

 

He was God and thus divine.

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Q2 (Phil2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God? 

 

 

Jesus was One with God, with all of the fullness and attributes of God, such as Deity, power, authority, but humbled Himself to be born as a baby in a manger, stripping Himself of all things God (Power, Glory, Honor, etc) though he retained His sinless God-nature, and limited His life here on earth to submission and obedience to His Father's will....rather than His own, modeling to us how to live in utter dependence upon God.

 

How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus was divine?

 

​Jesus possessed the fullness of the attributes which make God, God....was One with God and in the form of God. Jesus is God, was always God, will always be God!

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine?

 

Jesus did not cling to his equality with God instead He presented Himself, identifying with those around him as a human being.

The passage teaches us that Jesus is divine by stating that He who is the very nature God, in other words He is God Himself and therefore divine.

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine?

 

Jesus Christ is divine, He is God and already possessed equality with God but for our sakes he was determined not to cling or hold on to it, but humble himself, submitted himself to the authority of his father, so that Gods plan of salvation for mankind would be accomplished.

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By Christ not clinging to equality with God..God is thereby glorified and we are given an insight to the dynamics of what True Love and Faith in Christ really is.

The passage teaches that Jesus is Divine by He Himself choosing to embody The Father in order to become a perfect example for us to follow..

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Christ Jesus did not cling to His equality with God, because He did not exercise all of His divine power while in mission on earth.  He came to fulfil His Father’s will that He should be the ultimate sacrifice for the forgiveness of sin.  One of the proof can be found in the following statements of the scriptures:

Luk 9:54  And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?

Luk 9:55  But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.

Luk 9:56  For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village.

 

The beauty of Christ Jesus’ obedience to His Father’s will is to keep his silence during His trial, even when the Jews provoked His ego:

Mat 26:63  But Jesus held his peace. And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God.

Mat 27:40  And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross.

Mat 27:43  He trusted in God; let him deliver him now, if he will have him: for he said, I am the Son of God.

 

Thus Christ Jesus had fulfil the prophecy of the prophet Isiah:

Isa 53:1  Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

Isa 53:2  For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

Isa 53:3  He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Isa 53:4  Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

Isa 53:5  But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Isa 53:6  All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Isa 53:7  He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

Isa 53:8  He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

Isa 53:9  And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

Isa 53:10  Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

Isa 53:11  He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Isa 53:12  Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

 

And the Centurion at the foot of the cross exclaimed:

Mat 27:54  Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.

 

And Paul had all the right reasons to proclaim the divinity of Christ Jesus to the believers:

Php 2:6  Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Php 2:7  But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Php 2:8  And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Php 2:9  Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

Php 2:10  That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Php 2:11  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

 

I don’t need any fancy arguments of theologians to tell me that Christ Jesus is God, since I can find everything in the Bible.  I thank God that the holy scripture is so easy to understand and has been given to my generation from His prophets and Apostles of thousands of years ago.

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't

cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage

teach that Jesus is divine?

 

1. He knew he had to come in the flesh to die for us and be the son

of God while on earth. He did what he had to do while on earth and

became abused, talked about, and mistreated in various ways. He 

lowered himself  as a servant, to not be selfish, but to be humbled.

 

2. Jesus is made of the very same divine "stuff" that the Father 

is made of.

 

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't

cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage

teach that Jesus is divine?

 

1. He knew he had to come in the flesh to die for us and be the son

of God while on earth. He did what he had to do while on earth and

became abused, talked about, and mistreated in various ways. He 

lowered himself  as a servant, to not be selfish, but to be humbled.

 

2. Jesus is made of the very same divine "stuff" that the Father 

is made of.

 

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Q2. (2:6) In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to his equality with God? How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is divine?

Christ who existed with the Father from the beginning af all time, came to earth in human form to reconcile man back to the heavenly Father. He was humble and meek, thinking of no great thing of himself, only to fulfill the Father's plans for our salvation.

Jesus is of divine nature because he was with the Father from the beginning meaning he is the word of God, he is God in the flesh.   

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Christ is equal to the Father. Christ didn't have to cling to it because the Son is part of the Godhead. He was in the beginning of the creation of the world. He rather obey the Father than to cling to something he already have.

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Q2. (2:6) 

In your own words, what does it mean that Christ didn't cling to His equality with God? 

How specifically does this passage teach that Jesus is Divine? 

Jesus didn’t cling to His equality with God since He willingly came into this world, as a man, to suffer and save humanity.

This passage specifically mentions that Jesus is in very nature God.

This does not mean that He merely resembled God, but that He actually is God – in every nature God.

This agrees with other verses of Scripture, for example: He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together Colossians (1:15-17). 

These all go to prove that Jesus Christ was whatever God was in eternity past. He is the infinite, the incomprehensible, the all holy, the all blessed Christ, who was and is absolutely One with Him.   

 

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