Q2. Offensive Baptism

[Craig]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John

[csreeves]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John

[wifee]

2a)John's baptism was an act of purification & forgiveness. Jewish authorities & leaders denied their need to confess their sins, they believed they could be sanctified by obeying rules to the letter. They don't accept the need for a saviour as an intermediary with God. They do not believe in original sin & need for repentance or baptism. A proselyte baptism was for gentiles when they converted to Judiasm. b)Those who received John's baptism were truly repentant, and wanted to change the way they lived before the kingdom of God comes. c) The Sadducees and Pharisees and anyone else that thought they were already "righteous" resisted John's baptism as they believed they were above baptism as a public display of repentance & cleansing.

[RLL]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John

[johjoy]

John's baptism likely offended Jews' national pride because they were taught that as Jews they did not need purification and repentance. Rather, it was the non-Jews (Gentiles) who were unclean and needed to go through a ritual washing in order to convert to Judaism. The Pharisees and Sadducees rejected baptism for these reasons. They would say "We have Abraham as our father" and believed because of their ancestry, they were justified before God. However, Matthew 3: 5-6 tells us that" [many] people from Jerusalem and all of Judea and the whole region of Jordan," came to John confessing their sins and for baptism in the Jordan area. These are majority Jewish areas I believe, and these were primarily if not all Jewish people. I believe they welcomed John's baptism because they believed John's teaching - that they do need to be cleansed from sin. I do wonder how their response relates to the Jews' misunderstanding of "the Kingdom of God," since they believed that the coming Messiah would them from Roman rule. Regardless of that misunderstanding, it seems that the Spirit of God active in the words of John moved them to knowledge, understanding and truth -- which was required to understand their need for repentance, confess their sins and participate in the ritual of baptism as a symbol of being cleansed of their sins by God.

[saja3]

John

[margaret955]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John's baptism have offended a Jew's national pride? Who welcomed John's baptism? Who resisted it? Why?

It must have taken a great deal of humility for a Jew to repent of his sins and be baptized publically just like a non-Jew.

Jesus welcomed John's baptism (matthew 3 v 13-14)

It was the Pharisees and the Lawyers rejected it and the reason because they had not been baptized by John[/b]

[quilter]

IT OFFENED BOTH THE PHARISEES AND SADDUCEES BECAUSE THEY TALKED THE TALK BUT DID'NT LIVE BY THE WORDS THEY STUDY.

IT IS ALL ABOUT OUR SAVIOUR. IF IT IS NOT ABOUT OUR ALMIGHTY. WE ARE GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

THE PEOPLE EXPECTED A HIGH CLASS PERSON TO TELL THEM WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR. JOHN THE BAPTIST PREACH TO THE ONES TRULY WANTING TO LIVE THEIR LIVES FOR THE LORD.

JOHN WAS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE EVEN THE PHARISEES AND SADDUCEES WHO THOUGHT THEY WERE NOT SINNERS

FOR THESE PEOPLE TO TURN AWAY AND BE BAPTIST MEANT THEY TRULY BELIFE JOHN'S PREACHING

[linda bass]

John's baptism would of offended a Jew's national pride because, he would have to humbly confess his sins and be baptized publically,the same as a Gentile.

Most of the common people accepted John's baptism.

The religious leaders resisted John's baptism. They didn't think it was necessary to repent.

[Laura T]

Someone earlier stated that the Jews refused to admit that they were sinners or on the same level as the Gentiles. Add to this the fact that they would not talk to, eat with or touch anything a Gentil had touched. Imagine being baptized in the same water as those "unclean" Gentiles.

[Pearl]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John

[Chosen]

Q#2 - John's baptism was both a preparation and a symbol of the spiritual baptism that Jesus was to bring. John's water baptism meant two things.

1. It symbolized cleansing from all sin. A person was being prepared for the cleansing that Christ would provide.

2. It symbolized separation or dedication. A person was setting his life apart to God in a renewed spirit of dedication. He was committing himself to the Christ about whom John was preaching.

Because of their affiliation with the Law and all its rituals for cleansing and purification, the Jews, specifically their leaders (Pharisees, Sadducee s) felt they were above John's baptism. I mean, how can this itinerant, unsightly man out in the wilderness tell us what we need to do in order to be cleansed from sin. Talk about pride. I'm afraid that sinners and some believers as well adopt this prideful attitude. It is especially a stumbling block for the church when directed against God's messengers; our Pastors and leaders. For sinners it blocks them from the Salvation that Christ so wants to give them.

Fortunately there were those around Jerusalem, Judea and the Jordan who flocked to him to hear his message of hope and be baptized. They obviously realized their need for cleansing and repentance from sin. As mentioned earlier, it was the Jewish leaders who were at the forefront of resisting Johns baptism, The Pharisees and the Sadducees.

Two persons often shut themselves off from God.

1) Persons of high estate (those of wealth and social standing).

2) Persons of religion (the self-righteous)

It was true during those days and it is still true today.

[JamesDennis]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John

[gardenrose]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would Johns baptism have offended a Jews national pride? Who welcomed Johns baptism? Who resisted it? Why?

As a result of them being Abraham's decendants, they had already arrived. They were not in need of a doctor nor baptism for that matter. Being baptised ment they were in need of it and their lifestyle suggested otherwise. They were the church, they were the righteous, it was their job to ensure that all their parishioners adopted their teachings and lifestyle. Stepping into the Jorden River ment they were apart of that generation of vipers, it ment that for all they had done, the way was still not prepared for the King. In other words they were above reproach as a result of being Jewish, their blood line was a mark of royal pride and prejudice.

Jesus was a welcomer of that baptism and many that were present, but the teachers of the law-the Pharisees rejected it because they were not the dogs in need of purification.

[andyho1]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John

[Andrea Kay]

Baptism was for outsiders, for those who were not Jews. From time to time Gentiles believed in the one true God of the Israelites and wanted to become Jews. They were publicly baptized, turning away from their heritage and worship of other gods and turning to God. This was repentance in the sense that it was a complete turn around in a person

[Debra M.]

How would John

[mrenquist]

John

[ljmnkscart]

First of all John told the Jewish people that they had to repent, to turn their lives around from their sins and to show that they had he told them that they should be baptized. And according to this lesson this type of baptism that John performed may have derived from

"Jewish proselyte baptism, a ritual bath by which a Gentile convert to Judaism was cleansed from moral and religious impurity." And if so it meant that the Jew would be humiliated to be publicly treated the same as a non-Jew. But it takes humility to repent of ones' self. People from Jerusalem, Judea and Jordan came to John to be baptized. The Pharisees and Sadducees who were legalists and had various other beliefs did not welcome John because they believe that they did not have to repent, that obeying the Mosaic Law was enough for them to be deemed righteous.

[leihaynes]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John

[Eager Bver]

John's baptism offended the Jews' national pride as they were taught the law from Moses. Baptism was not prevalent in their day.

Those persons who had repentant hearts welcomed John's baptism.

The Pharisees and Sadducees resisted as baptism was not written in the law.

[Raph]

How would John's baptism have offended a Jew's national pride?

John's baptism was the sign of repentance and was done publicly on the river. The Jews, who claimed that Abraham is their father, were therefore not ready to agree publicly that they are sinners.

Who welcomed John's baptism?

Jesus welcomed John's baptism. He even allowed his disciples to baptise believers by His name.

Who resisted it? Why?

The Jewish leaders resisted it because of their personal pride. They did not want to accept they wee sinners.

[lifesright]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John

[Jeffb]

How would John

[blezed]

Q2. (Matthew 3:5-10; Luke 7:30) How would John